* Get your questions answered by tens of thousands of community members
* Network with expats and english speakers living in Shanghai
* Find like-minded people in a sometimes intimidating environment
* GET ONE MONTH FREE GUANXI SMS LOOKUP SERVICE
           close
Remember?
  Forum FAQForum FAQ   SearchSearch   PreferencesPreferences  Watched TopicsWatched Topics  Watched ForumsWatched Forums
Log in to check your private messages Log in to check your private messages    Log inLog in   Ignored Users

Post new topic   Reply to topic
View previous topic Printable version Log in to check your private messages View next topic
Author Message
LifeMage
FooSlinger
FooSlinger


Joined: Sep 30, 2005
Posts: 3955
Location: In the world...... but not of it.
Post 4Posted: Aug 04, 2008 - 11:59 AM  Reply with quote  Back to top
Post subject: the 2008 Mind Games...

PsyOp: Is Washington Intent on Sabotaging the Beijing Olympics?
Pre-Olympics PsyOp creates Atmosphere of Fear and Insecurity

by Michel Chossudovsky
Global Research, August 3, 2008

In the weeks leading up to the Beijing Olympics, an atmosphere of fear and insecurity is unfolding.

China has not only been targeted for its human rights violations, a China based Islamic terrorist organization has announced that it is planning to "create havoc" at the outset of the Olympics.

According to media reports, the Turkestan Islamic Party (TIP) has claimed responsibility for several pre-Olympic terror attacks including the July 21 bombing of three buses in Kunming, capital of Yunnan , which killed two and left 13 injured, as well as a similar Shanghai bus bombing in May. The TIP also claimed responsibility for an attack in Wenzhou on July 17 using an explosives-laden tractor and the bombing of a Guangzhou plastics factory on July 17 (Sydney Morning Herald, 27 July 2008).

The leader of the Turkestan Islamic Party (TIP) Commander Seyfullah in a mysterious video broadcast warned both athletes and spectators that it is planning to carry out simultaneous attacks in several highly populated urban areas, with a view to ultimately sabotaging the Olympic games:

"Through this blessed jihad in Yunnan this time, the Turkestan Islamic Party warns China one more time. Our aim is to target the most critical points related to the Olympics.

We will try to attack Chinese central cities severely using the tactics that have never been employed. We warn China and the international community for the last time that those spectators, athletes, particularly the Muslims, who are planning to attend the Olympics, please change your intention from going to China. Please do not stand together with the faithless people. The Turkistan Islamic Party volunteers will conduct violent military actions against individuals, departments, venues, and activities that are related to the Olympics in China." (Transcript of alleged Statement of Commander Seyfullah, released to the media by IntelCenter, Washington, 23 July 2008 http://www.intelcenter.com/)





The authenticity of the video is dubious, the timing of its release following the Kunming bombings barely two weeks prior to the Olympics is suspicious. The mystery video was made available to the Western and Chinese media by IntelCenter, a private Washington based Intel company on contract to US intelligence and the Pentagon. How, from whom and when it was obtained has not been revealed.

The video contains a carefully crafted narrative. It sends a clear-cut message with evocative images. Keep away from the Olympic games. It starts with the Beijing’s Olympic logo going up in flames as a rocket hits an Olympic venue. (See Toronto Star, August 1, 2008)

Who is behind the Turkestan Islamic Party?

According to Stratfor, a US based think tank on intelligence issues, the Turkestan Islamic Party (TIP) which claimed responsibility for the pre-Olympic terror attacks belongs to the broader East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM), based in the Xinjiang-Uygur autonomous region.

The ETIM is known to be covertly supported by Pakistan Inter Services Intelligence (ISI), acting in close coordination with the CIA. The role of Pakistan's ISI in supporting the Islamist Uygur insurgencies goes back to the mid-1990s. According to Yossef Bodansky in a 2000 Defense & Foreign Affairs' Strategic Policy report:

"The Pakistani terrorism-sponsoring activities along the Silk Road were the primary instrument of Islamabad's regional strategy. The ISI -sponsored insurgency and terrorism along the western gateways to the PRC were strategic developments with grave ramifications."

The historical relationship between Pakistan's military intelligence (ISI) and the CIA is amply documented. In the course of the 1980s, the Covert Action Division of the ISI was used by the CIA to recruit and train the Mujahideen, who were sent to Afghanistan to fight Soviet troops.

In the post Cold war era, this CIA-ISI relationship remained largely intact. The ISI continued to be used by Washington to channel covert support to various Islamic fundamentalist movements, including Al Qaeda, involved in false flag terror attacks. (Michel Chossudovsky, America's War on Terrorism, Global Research, Montreal, 2005). The ISI as an intelligence body has played a key covert role in America's "war on terrorism", by sustaining an abetting these terrorist organizations and by sustaining the illusion of an outside enemy.

In China, covert support to the Uygur insurgency largely served the purpose of creating political instability. In Xinjiang-Uigur, Pakistani intelligence (ISI), acting in liaison with the CIA, supports several Islamist organizations including the Islamic Reformist Party, the East Turkestan National Unity Alliance, the Uigur Liberation Organization and the Central Asian Uigur Jihad Party. Several of these Islamic organizations have received support and training from Al Qaeda, which is a US sponsored intelligence asset. The declared objective of these Chinese-based Islamic organizations is the "establishment of an Islamic caliphate in the region" (Michel Chossudovsky, op cit, Chapter 2).

The "caliphate project" which is supported covertly by US-Pakistani intelligence encroaches upon Chinese territorial sovereignty. Supported by various Wahabi "foundations" from the Gulf States, secessionism on China’s Western frontier is consistent with U.S. strategic interests in Central Asia.

By tacitly promoting the secession of the Xinjiang-Uigur region (using Pakistan’s ISI as a "go-between"), Washington is attempting to trigger a broader process of political destabilization and fracturing of the People’s Republic of China.

"China reportedly said that East Turkestan (Uyghur) Islamic terrorists [are] operating on Pakistan’s soil and trained in special camps in its territory. This is the first time Beijing administration charged Pakistan for harboring anti-China elements in its soil. The revelation came in a court document in the trial of jailed Canadian [Celil] in which it was mentioned that Celil joined the East Turkistan Liberation Organisation (ETLO) way back in 1997 and acted as a senior instructor in Kyrgyzstan. As per the document, Celil allegedly recruited people and sent them to various training camps on the Pamir Plateau in Pakistan territory. ETLO's prime objective is to carve an independent East Turkestan by uniting parts of China and Kyrgyzstan." (B. Raman, US & Terrorism in Xinjiang, South Asian Analysis, 2002 http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers5/paper499.html )

The TIP which has claimed responsibility for several pre-Olympic terror attacks belongs to the broader ETIM which is supported covertly by Pakistan's ISI.

The role of Pakistan's ISI in Xinjiang-Uygur is known to Chinese intelligence. According to a 2002 report, Beijing accused Islamabad of training East Turkestan Islamic operatives on the Pamir plateau inside Pakistan, bordering on the Southern tip of Xinjiang-Uygur region (see map).

For political reasons, however, the issue of ISI-CIA involvement has been carefully avoided. In the weeks leading up to the Olympics, the Chinese authorities are anxious to avoid controversy. The issue of foreign support to the East Turkestan Islamic Movement is unmentionable.

Sabotage or Disruption of the Olympics?

Both the Western and Chinese media in chorus, quoting the mystery video, are asserting that Muslim terrorists will attack the Olympics.

The message in the videotape released by IntelCenter is unequivocal: Turkestan Islamic Party (TIP) Commander Seyfullah, "warned athletes and spectators 'particularly the Muslims' to stay away from the Olympics." (quoted by Associated Press, August 1, 2008)

An atmosphere of fear and insecurity has been created, quite deliberately, which could potentially undermine the Olympic Games.

Are these terror warnings and attacks, not to mention to the mysterious video, part of a US sponsored PsyOp which is being applied to discredit the Chinese leadership and/or sabotage the Olympics?

How reliable is the videotape? What is the credibility of IntelCenter? Neither the Western nor the Chinese media have investigated the matter.

IntelCenter, the private Intel company on contract to US intelligence happens to be the same Washington outfit which released, also in a timely fashion, several mysterious Al Qaeda related videotapes including the 11 September 2007 video of Osama bin Laden as well as an April 2006 video featuring Al Qaeda's Number Two Man Ayman al-Zawahiri.

IntelCenter describes "the collection, exploitation, analysis and dissemination of terrorist and rebel group video materials" as one of its "core competencies". InteCenter' "primary client base is comprised of military, law enforcement and intelligence agencies in the US and other allied countries around the world." (http://www.intelcenter.com/aboutus.html)

How IntelCenter actually obtained these various videotapes including the latest pre-Olympic Seyfullah Turkestan Islamic Party (TIP) video, remains to be established.

At an August 1st press briefing, Sen. Colonel Tian Yixiang of the Olympics security command told reporters that the biggest threat to security comes from "the East Turkestan terrorist organization" meaning the ETIM based in the Xinjiang-Uygur autonomous region.

What the Chinese official failed to mention is that there is evidence that these terrorist organizations have over the years been covertly supported by Pakistani intelligence, operating on behalf of Washington.

_________________
visit my flickr page
View user's profile Visit poster's website
hc
Post Roaster
Post Roaster


Joined: Apr 04, 2007
Posts: 4545

Post  Posted: Aug 04, 2008 - 02:58 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Muslims that attack the US: bad
Muslims that attack China: good (notice how they use terrorist in quotes in several articles by the "free" press)

Oh wait, the free press cannot possibly be wrong can it?

It's "free", and "unbiased"?

Laughing

PS: I am saying that because I am "anti-american" right?

Laughing

This world is in a clogged toiled with feces up to its ankles, wearing flip flops.

Ain't pretty toto.

_________________
Click here to read the latest retarded PM Natalie sent me. Let's make her lose face and FINALLY leave this site.
View user's profile ICQ Number
hammerforlife
Fire-eater
Fire-eater


Joined: May 24, 2004
Posts: 2701

Post  Posted: Aug 04, 2008 - 03:04 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Reading lots of articles these days almost makes it appear that the Beijing games are the only ones that have even had political overtones and the only ones that have been "threatened" by enemies of the state whether real or perceived. This is the normal state of the Olympics, there is nothing unique about Beijing. I don't know how anyone can say "politics and sport should be separated" and keep a straight face. It would probably be the first time if they were.
View user's profile
georgeshenOffline
Raver
Raver


Joined: Apr 30, 2006
Posts: 451
Location: Boston, Shanghai
Status: Offline
Post  Posted: Aug 05, 2008 - 12:06 AM  Reply with quote  Back to top

This is what i have been saying for a while. We can even make fun of the victims if they live in China (hint-see the thread below).

hc wrote:
Muslims that attack the US: bad
Muslims that attack China: good (notice how they use terrorist in quotes in several articles by the "free" press)

Oh wait, the free press cannot possibly be wrong can it?

It's "free", and "unbiased"?

Laughing

PS: I am saying that because I am "anti-american" right?

Laughing

This world is in a clogged toiled with feces up to its ankles, wearing flip flops.

Ain't pretty toto.

_________________
I Am America (And So Can You!)
View user's profile
jzzzzzzzOffline
SuperStar
SuperStar


Joined: July 07, 2006
Posts: 1391

Status: Offline
Post  Posted: Aug 05, 2008 - 12:06 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

From the BBC. Hard to imagine they would have printed such an article just after an IRA car bomb or a London Tube Bombing. Confused


How big is the Xinjiang threat?

By Michael Bristow
BBC News, Beijing

China has for months been warning that Xinjiang terrorists were planning attacks during the Olympics - fears that now appear well-founded.

One official said recently that China had cracked five terrorist groups and arrested 82 suspected terrorists in the first half of this year alone.

But some experts believe there is only a "medium risk" that Xinjiang terrorists would disrupt the Olympic Games.

Others say the whole terrorist threat has been exaggerated as an excuse to allow Beijing to carry out repression in Xinjiang.

Xinjiang, in the far west of China, is home to the Uighur ethnic group, many of whom resent Beijing's rule over the region.

There has been low-level terrorist activity there for a number of years, but this appears to have increased this year ahead of the Olympics.

As early as March, Wang Lequan, Xinjiang's Communist Party chief, suggested terrorists were planning attacks against this summer's Olympic Games.

"There are always a few people who conspire [to] sabotage. It is no longer a secret now," he said, according to China's state-run Xinhua news agency.

That warning seemed to have been borne out.

Earlier this year, China said it had foiled an attack on a passenger plane flying from the Xinjiang capital, Urumqi.

And just last month officials said they had shot dead five members of a group planning a "holy war" in China.

Now Chinese officials seem to be blaming the East Turkestan Islamic Movement for Monday's attack on the Kashgar police station that left 16 dead.

Over recent months, senior Chinese leaders have stressed that security is the main priority for the Olympics.

So how big is the terrorist risk at the Games? Hong Kong-based security expert Steve Vickers, CEO of consultancy International Risk, said there was only a "medium risk".

"There are real problems in Xinjiang, but my assessment is that these people are well-known and have been infiltrated by the Chinese security apparatus," he said.

Others believe China is using the Olympics as an excuse to crack down on ordinary people in Xinjiang.

Speaking before Monday's attack, Rebiya Kadeer, president of the Uyghur American Association, said there was no credible evidence that Uighurs posed a significant terrorist threat.

"I call on the US government and the international community to condemn China's manipulation of terror threats to kill and intimidate Uighurs on the eve of the Olympic Games," she said in a press release.

Ms Kadeer, who herself spent time in a Chinese prison, claims Uighurs suffer a broad range of human rights abuses in Xinjiang.

These are said to include arbitrary detention, torture, religious repression, and the suppression of the Uighur language and culture.

Nicholas Bequelin, an expert on Xinjiang, said this latest incident could drive a wedge between the Uighurs and the Han Chinese, the country's dominant ethnic group.

Over recent decades, many Han people have moved into Xinjiang, which is rich in natural resources.

"My biggest concern is that an incident like this, and the repression that follows, could further polarise the Uighur and Han communities in Xinjiang," said Mr Bequelin, of Human Rights Watch.

"That would be a disaster, because these people have got to live together."
View user's profile Visit poster's website
KiwiOffline
Post Boaster


Joined: May 07, 2003
Posts: 4763

Status: Offline
Post  Posted: Aug 05, 2008 - 12:17 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

jzzzzzzz wrote:
From the BBC. Hard to imagine they would have printed such an article just after an IRA car bomb or a London Tube Bombing. Confused


Absolutely.

I'm trying to work out if there could some connection to the free press in the UK versus the controlled and censored press in China. Could that explain some of the differences in the reporting of the two situations?

Bugger. . . Too hard to work that one out.

Time to beat up my manservant.

_________________
[offensive signature removed by ADMIN]
View user's profile
liupeiOffline
Reacher
Reacher


Joined: July 05, 2008
Posts: 295

Status: Offline
Post  Posted: Aug 05, 2008 - 12:32 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

that article is utter crap.

"The TIP which has claimed responsibility for several pre-Olympic terror attacks belongs to the broader ETIM which is supported covertly by Pakistan's ISI."

total bs. werent the ETIM wiped out after the pakistanis got their leader?

the shanghai bus bombing? HA

pakistan, china's closest ally , trying to carve off its territory? HA, makes seceding 1/3 rd of their beloved Kashmir look a bit stupid, wudnt it?

only an idiot wud take that crap serious, only a worse idiot wud pen it.
View user's profile ICQ Number
hc
Post Roaster
Post Roaster


Joined: Apr 04, 2007
Posts: 4545

Post  Posted: Aug 05, 2008 - 12:54 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

"So how big is the terrorist risk at the Games? Hong Kong-based security expert Steve Vickers, CEO of consultancy International Risk, said there was only a "medium risk".

"There are real problems in Xinjiang, but my assessment is that these people are well-known and have been infiltrated by the Chinese security apparatus," he said."

Hey everyone, Steve said it's just a medium risk! There is no problem.

People throwing grenades inside the police barracks clearly denotes there is no risk.

"Others believe China is using the Olympics as an excuse to crack down on ordinary people in Xinjiang.

Speaking before Monday's attack, Rebiya Kadeer, president of the Uyghur American Association, said there was no credible evidence that Uighurs posed a significant terrorist threat. "

No credible evidence except 16 dead policemen.

Let's ask our friends from London: are there any terrorist risk in London?

It's all too simple.

Muslims in China = Good ("your enemy's enemy is your friend")
Muslims in Afghanistan if USSR in a war with them = good
Muslims elsewhere = bad

Oh wait, but this is the "free" press, they couldnt possibly be biased and ignorant about the subject could they?

No, unless of course you have a democracy fighter with an eye out of its socket.

The key takeway: at times the "free" press is worse than a controlled press, as you have the illusion of being better because it is free.

But few people will question it.

_________________
Click here to read the latest retarded PM Natalie sent me. Let's make her lose face and FINALLY leave this site.
View user's profile ICQ Number
liupeiOffline
Reacher
Reacher


Joined: July 05, 2008
Posts: 295

Status: Offline
Post  Posted: Aug 05, 2008 - 02:23 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

r u reading a totally different article. (ican get the pic box as not good adobe or sumshmit)???

seems a totally ludicrous anti-us propaganda piece to me, lacking any evidence becoz all possible eveidence points to the contrary
View user's profile ICQ Number
jzzzzzzzOffline
SuperStar
SuperStar


Joined: July 07, 2006
Posts: 1391

Status: Offline
Post  Posted: Aug 05, 2008 - 02:29 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

I love Steve 'medium risk' Vickers too.

As for the rest of the report, I think it's right that the media question the seriousness of threats discussed by our governments. I wish they would question some of the crap that the UK government come out with. I'm just not sure that the right time to question it is when a threat has been clearly demonstrated with grenades and dead police.
View user's profile Visit poster's website
hc
Post Roaster
Post Roaster


Joined: Apr 04, 2007
Posts: 4545

Post  Posted: Aug 05, 2008 - 02:37 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

What do you mean by "dead police" ?

Probably "the communists" are lying and they either didnt die or died because of hygiene problems or something. The muslims in Xinjiang are good, just like the t¡betans are also good. All these people dead in Tbet burned themselves up to prove a point, obviouslly.

Can't be terrorists can it? Oh wait, I forgot the quotes. Can't be "terrorists" can it?

I love how by default people believe in 100% of the "free" (notice the quotes) media and 0% of the local media, without questioning, at all.


Anyway,

Let's ask Steve, he probably knows. Wink

Clogged overflowing toilet in flipflops, and we are locked on it, without paper.

_________________
Click here to read the latest retarded PM Natalie sent me. Let's make her lose face and FINALLY leave this site.
View user's profile ICQ Number
liupeiOffline
Reacher
Reacher


Joined: July 05, 2008
Posts: 295

Status: Offline
Post  Posted: Aug 05, 2008 - 02:43 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

^ dude, this article is written by a cretin with alot of fantisies and no knowledge. NOT a good place to launch ur typical anti-US rants, as it is a pack of lies about the US and Pakistan
View user's profile ICQ Number
hc
Post Roaster
Post Roaster


Joined: Apr 04, 2007
Posts: 4545

Post  Posted: Aug 05, 2008 - 03:39 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Couldn't decipher what your point actually is?

Are you having syphilis induced headaches again?

_________________
Click here to read the latest retarded PM Natalie sent me. Let's make her lose face and FINALLY leave this site.
View user's profile ICQ Number
liupeiOffline
Reacher
Reacher


Joined: July 05, 2008
Posts: 295

Status: Offline
Post  Posted: Aug 05, 2008 - 03:57 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

ok my bad maybe. i cant read the wuote box. i mean the articles underneath it
View user's profile ICQ Number
hc
Post Roaster
Post Roaster


Joined: Apr 04, 2007
Posts: 4545

Post  Posted: Aug 05, 2008 - 04:07 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

"ok my bad maybe. i cant read the wuote box. i mean the articles underneath it"

i.e. you dont even know what you are talking about as you have not read it but you are still farthing your opinion.

Great.

That;s how most of y our posts sound anyway.

How is the T-cell count doing? You spreading aids out there?

This one for you fuky:

Image
One-legged HIV spreader held on visa charges
By Connie Levett
Bangkok
October 19, 2004
Page Tools

* Email to a friend
* Printer format
*
*

Hans-Otto Schiemann talks to reporters in the court at Chaiyaphum in northern Thailand.

Hans-Otto Schiemann talks to reporters in the court at Chaiyaphum in northern Thailand.
Photo: AFP

A former German sailor who boasts he has infected hundreds of Thai women and girls with HIV-AIDS was detained by a court yesterday - for immigration offences.

Hans-Otto Schiemann, 54, claims to have HIV but has refused to take a blood test since he was arrested last week. As he was led away yesterday he told reporters he had committed no crime. His common-law Thai wife has full-blown AIDS.

Officials say they are powerless to charge him for his sexual activities. But they did print 2000 flyers warning students to avoid him and posted banners throughout the town of Chaiyaphum in northern Thailand.

Sommart Troy, of the Thai group AIDS and Social Concern, is demanding that authorities carry out an HIV test to confirm Schiemann's claims.

"We are concerned with his rights but if you know you have contracted it and go to have sexual intercourse with someone it's like intention to murder in general law. I think he should be held for further investigation. It's not yet proven he has HIV," he said before yesterday's hearing.

The one-legged German, who claims he had unprotected sex with hundreds of Thais, was remanded in custody for a month. Authorities claim the former sailor overstayed his 30-day visa by three years.
Advertisement Advertisement

Health officials did not know how many women were infected, because many were reluctant to have an HIV test, but that it could be as high as 400.

Schiemann told Agence France Presse last week that he had contracted HIV three years ago. Neighbours said he drove around town offering large sums of money to students for sex and also frequented karaoke bars to pick up women.

Schiemann, who had no legal representation yesterday, is due to reappear in court on November 15.

As he was led away, Schiemann said: "It's unfair to put me back in jail. I haven't committed any crime.

"I have the right to stay here in Thailand but now I have to stay in jail another month. This is a complete scandal, there is no justice in Thailand."

If found guilty, Schiemann is likely to be deported, according to Lieutenant-Colonel Khampol Nonuch, who is heading the investigation.

_________________
Click here to read the latest retarded PM Natalie sent me. Let's make her lose face and FINALLY leave this site.
View user's profile ICQ Number
liupeiOffline
Reacher
Reacher


Joined: July 05, 2008
Posts: 295

Status: Offline
Post  Posted: Aug 05, 2008 - 04:18 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

posted it already years ago sugar. blahblahblah
View user's profile ICQ Number
liupeiOffline
Reacher
Reacher


Joined: July 05, 2008
Posts: 295

Status: Offline
Post  Posted: Aug 05, 2008 - 04:19 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

short term memory los slol?
View user's profile ICQ Number
Display posts from previous:     
Jump to:  
All times are GMT + 8 Hours
Post new topic   Reply to topic
View previous topic Printable version Log in to check your private messages View next topic
Powered by MDForum 2.0.7© 2003-2007 MAXdev Team
Credits
Welcome Guest

Username
Password
Remember me
Register Here!
Join the Shanghai Expat News in the Mail
Email:

Latest Newsletters
Events in Shanghai
December 02, 2008


Members
November 25, 2008


Discounts
November 27, 2008


Web ShanghaiExpat

Welcome Guest
Join Us!

Register, it's free!
 Create an account
Members: Online
Members: Members:96
Guests: Guests:576
Total: Total:672

    Home    Sitemap    Terms of Service    Privacy Policy     Contact Us    Advertising 

All logos and trademarks on this site are property of their respective owner. The comments and forum posts are property of their posters, all the rest copyright 1999-2008 by Max Intermedia LTD.

Powered by MD-Pro