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Post  Posted: Aug 21, 2008 - 11:00 AM  Reply with quote  Back to top
Post subject: Speech Pathologist needed !

I am moving to China in January and am trying to figure out where I can locate a speech pathologist for my son who just turned two. He has a motor planning speech disorder and is currently receiving services here in New York but will most definitely need to continue them when we move. Any help at all would be most appreciated.
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Post  Posted: Aug 21, 2008 - 05:26 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Hi Marilyn,
Just so you know the situation on speech pathologists here in Shanghai is ridiculous. We were searching for one back in June. Depending on where you will live there are two that I know of. One in Puxi and one in Pudong. Of course, a lot changes here very fast, so that may not be the case now. Services are very hard to come by and can be expensive. We were actually encouraged not to come if we would need speech services for our daughter, due to the lack of suitable specialists here. Thankfully, her speech has improved dramatically over the past few months and we are not concerned like we were. I will look up their contact info and PM you later.
Good luck.
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Post  Posted: Aug 21, 2008 - 08:07 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Marilyn is moving to Suzhou, apparently in 4 months. She mentions "are moving" = "will move".

If I may (Moderators, please don't delete the links or text on the post in this matter, whilst being commercial it may be extremely useful to Marilyn or others. I believe that children are a case for latitude.)

http://www.specialedchina.com/WhoWeServer.html

SEC is committed to meeting each child’s specific and individual needs. Where ever possible, we help families find the best and most appropriate resources for their children.

Our services include:
Creative Garden Program Center
Full and part time daily programs for children with special needs
Clinic and consulting services
Speech-language therapy, physical therapy, and occupational therapy
Educational-Psychological assessments, speech language assessments, and motor assessments

I can't and don't endorse the organisation, but from the staff level qualifications and the apparent level of sincerity & professionalism I'd place my child there.

This isn't a PM, but an addition to the expat knowledge.

PM me for other.

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Post  Posted: Aug 22, 2008 - 04:54 AM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Worldlink used to have a speech pathologist but just checking their website now, the do not have one listed: http://www.worldlink-shanghai.com/speech_language.php

However, that does not mean you should not contact them anyhow.
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Post  Posted: Aug 23, 2008 - 10:58 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Does anybody know how much this SEC costs? EVerybody keeps saying its expensive but I am not sure what that means?? How expensive?
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Post  Posted: Aug 24, 2008 - 08:55 AM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Why not contact them yourself? They are professional & honest people to deal with from experience. They are not out there to "get your money". There is no obligations in finding out cost before using them. Too, every child's requirement is very different.

Meanwhile, you may also want to check your medical insurance policy to see if they cover anything for speech therapies.
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Post  Posted: Aug 24, 2008 - 08:59 AM  Reply with quote  Back to top

THANK YOU. i did contact them twice but have not heard a reply.
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Post  Posted: Aug 24, 2008 - 09:14 AM  Reply with quote  Back to top

marjambeck, sent you a pm.
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Post  Posted: Aug 28, 2008 - 09:52 AM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Marjambeck,

I live in Suzhou and have an older child who was diagnosed with apraxia at age 2, after a year in early intervention. She had absolutely no speech before age 3, when she began to say a few words that were just vowel sounds. We had lots of speech therapy (and OT) until she was 5 and then moved to Asia for grade 1. She has not had speech since we moved in 2006 and has been doing just fine. We worked with her on our own and I never made a big fuss about it. I was always skeptical of the whole apraxia diagnosis anyway. It is very difficult to really know if a child has true apraxia before age 6 and seems to be overdiagnosed by EI people. (I am not saying your child doesn't have it- it is a real issue for some- which really becomes evident when they begin to read and write- I just think they jumped the gun diagnosing my daughter)

Her fine motor skills have never been fantastic but with time and encouragement they are coming along. Learning another language has actually helped her with her speech.

How severe is her apraxia? Does it appear exclusively in her speech or does she have motor planning issues with eating as well?

Could you get intensive summer speech when you go home and work with her in China during the year? If she needs intensive therapy, I don't think you will find it here. Hong Kong has a few excellent speech therapists (we have lived there as well) and you could consider going there once a month and having a therapist give you some work to do at home in between sessions.
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Post  Posted: Aug 28, 2008 - 10:31 AM  Reply with quote  Back to top

jerkrussell, You have valid points.

I think the overdiagnosed is due to the awareness of early intervention vs the old school thoughts of "he/she will outgrow it". Having a solid diagnosis also puts most parents on the proactive mode and in many cases give them the "weapon" to get much needed services (in North America). But you are right that it is extremely difficult to be 100% accurate in diagnosing a child at that young age except for some severe cases. Either way, the therapy is very much the same.

Agreed to with age maturity, everything seem to be better but most times I think the leg work of all the speech practice, excercises helps create a foundation for that.

All in all, speech therapy is a lot of work for the entire family. Speech disorders don't just get cured. People must think our family "talk" funny with emphasis on certain vowels or consonant or sentence construction depending on what we were working on. Along with speech work, we also have to consider the child's age development and monitor those development as well.
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Post  Posted: Aug 28, 2008 - 08:24 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Our 2 year old boy has mild to moderate apraxia. we are not sure. i do think it is difficult to diagnose , that being said i can also note that on paper he shows all of the signs. He does not have any eating problems , nor fine or gross motor. He reached all of his milestones late, actually, because he had lyme disease (lyme comes from a tick bite) that I gotten when I was pregnant. The doctors didn't realize until he was a year old that it was possible that it could be transmitted to a fetus. They sure do now. Once we put him on antibiotics he seemed to come all the way except for his speech. we currently are getting therapy 2 x per week here in America.
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Interesting that there seems to be a neurological component to it. My daughter hit all of her milestones on time and was beginning to make coherent sounds until an MMR vaccine at 15 mos. The vaccine left her with welts and a rash at the injection site for nearly a year while she regressed. She was in EI and then in a city program and had speech at a hospital as well. She had multiple diagnoses at age 2, including the ubiquitous Sensory Integration disorder. Her fine motor skills have never been great, but she is 8.5 now and is mostly up to speed academically, but still has problems with scissors and is a messy eater. She is #2 of three kids and there is certainly a difference with her abilities and the others. That being said, I think they were ahead of themselves and actively looking for a diagnosis. We didn't give her another vaccination until kindergarten.

I was not implying that you shouldn't get therapy- just that giving something a name seems to cause more harm sometimes.

The therapy we recieved was invaluable!
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Post  Posted: Aug 28, 2008 - 11:14 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

jerkrussel , i wrote you a pm and then my son hit the computer. did you geti it?
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