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Cambronne
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PALIN MEETS WITH AIPAC
From NBC/NJ's Matthew E. Berger
MINNEAPOLIS -- Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin today met with the board of directors of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, NBC/NJ has confirmed.
The meeting took place inside Palin's hotel, sources said.
A campaign official would not say who asked for the meeting, but said it was geared towards putting the American Jewish community at ease over her understanding of US-Middle East relations.
"That's obviously going to be an issue," the aide said. "It's not like being the senator from New York, obviously. But these aren't issues that are off her radar."
Palin, joined by Sen. Joe Lieberman, expressed her "heartfelt support for Israel" and spoke of the threats it faces from Iran and others, the campaign official said.
"We had a good productive discussion on the importance of the U.S.-Israel relationship, and we were pleased that Gov. Palin expressed her deep, personal, and lifelong commitment to the safety and well-being of Israel," AIPAC spokesman Josh Block said. "Like Sen. McCain, the vice presidential nominee understands and believes in the special friendship between the two democracies and would work to expand and deepen the strategic partnership in a McCain/Palin Administration."
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ANALYSIS: Sarah Palin . . . and the Jews
By Rob Eshman
Editor-in-Chief of The Jewish Journal of Greater Los Angeles and JewishJournal.com.
When Sen. John McCain tapped Alaska Governor Sarah Palin to be his running mate today, the Jewish political blogosphere -- as loud and fast and opinionated as (for lack of a better word) the Gentile Web -- came to a screeching halt.
After all, you can fight about John McCain, and Barack Obama, and Joe Biden . . .but Sarah Palin?
It took an Internet eternity for Jewish Republicans to come out swinging for Sarah, an just as long for Jewish Democrats to hit back.
"Homerun!" Larry Greenfield, the California director of the Republican Jewish Coalition, wrote me via e-mail five hours after McCain's announcement. "Governor Palin has a very close relationship with the Jewish community of Alaska, with Chabad (Rabbi Greenberg) and with AIPAC. She is close to the Frozen Chosen!"
Seconds later came a blast from Congressman Robert Wexler (D-FL) claiming Palin endorsed Pat Buchanan's presidential run in 2000: "John McCain's decision to select a vice presidential running mate that endorsed Pat Buchanan for President in 2000 is a direct affront to all Jewish Americans."
Oh, now it's getting good.
When Sen. Barack Obama picked Sen. Joe Biden last week, the Democrats had nothing but praise for the long term senator, citing positive comments from AIPAC and decades of foreign policy experience. And Jewish e-mail boxes filled with Biden's now familiar quote: "You don't have to be Jewish to be a Zionist, and I'm a Zionist."
Then Republican Jews struck.
An e-mail quickly circulated linking to an article on a right-leaning web site claiming Biden was in the pocket of the Iranian mullahs. As for AIPAC's kind words about Biden? "AIPAC has to say nice things," a Republican activist told me. "They have to be bi-partisan." And that pro-Zionist quote? Pretty words, just like his boss, Obama.
The Dems responded with a further defense of Biden's record. If you could call Biden's support for Israel into question, said the Executive Director of the National Jewish Democratic Council Ira Forman, then you could call Golda Meir's loyalty to Israel in question.
The Veep debate among Jews is important because there are many Jewish voters who are still a bit leery about Obama. Jews traditionally vote Democratic (upwards of 75 percent voted for John Kerry in 2004 -- and we didn't even really like him). A growing number of Jews have found a home in the Republican party, and are fairly candidate-proof -- they vote red no matter what.
A significant number of Jewish voters, however, will change their vote depending on which candidate they perceive as "better for Israel." These voters believe that Israel is facing immediate existential threats from Palestinian terror, from a near-nuclear Iran, and from over-eager politicians forcing it to make dangerous territorial concessions for the sake of elusive peace. These voters -- call them "Israel Firsters" -- see their one vote as crucial to preventing another Holocaust, and theirs are the votes that Jewish Dems and Jewish Republicans are fighting over.
Obama and Israel is the battleground issue for Jewish voters in the 2008 election -- these are the Jewish votes up for grabs in this race. If Republicans can paint Obama as a Muslim or Muslim sympathizer, as an appeaser to Iran, as inexperienced on foreign policy, as insufficiently caring about Israel in his kishkes -- the Yiddish word for guts -- then they can peel off Jewish votes.
This strategy won't matter in heavily pro-Democratic states like California and New York, but it can matter in swing states like Ohio and Florida. And it matters elsewhere in the race: Jews give money, Jews get involved, Jews shape opinion far out of proportion to their numbers. (Yes, there are only six of us in the entire country. Amazing what controlling the media will get you!)
Enter Sarah.
If McCain had picked Mitt Romney or Tom Ridge or -- cue the bar mitzvah band -- Joe Lieberman, he would have unquestionably swept up the Israel Firsters. These men have track records and gravitas when it comes to Israel and foreign policy. (This debate among Jews and Israel reflects the larger foreign policy concerns about Obama that Republicans are making the centerpiece of their opposition. Many conflicts in Jewish life mirror conflicts in the larger culture -- that's Anthropology 101).
But he chose Sarah Palin: former mayor of a small Alaska town, governor of Alaska, devout Christian.
For Jews who are not necessarily Israel Firsters, she carries some positives and negatives. Positives: she is a crusader for good government and a fiscal conservative. She is smart and successful and patriotic. Jews like all these things.
"As governor of Alaska, Palin has enjoyed a strong working relationship with Alaska's Jewish community. She has demonstrated sensitivity to the concerns of the community and has been accessible and responsive," said Republican Jewish Coalition Executive Director Matt Brooks.
Negatives: She is is anti-abortion.
Jews are among the largest pro-choice constituency in the country. She has, according to one web site, supported the idea of teaching Creationism and evolution in public schools. "'Teach both," she was quoted as saying on a local TV station. "You know, don't be afraid of information. Healthy debate is so important, and it's so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both.'"
Dependence on foreign oil is a major issue for American Jews, since a lot of that oil comes from regimes that hate Israel and support terror.
Republican Jews are emphasizing Palin's desire to drill Alaskan oil and develop domestic oil resources as away to decrease our dependence.
"Palin has been a leader on the critical issue of energy independence and lessening our need to buy oil from nations not sharing American and Israel's foreign policy," Brooks said in his statement.
But Jews are also pro-environment, and have jumped on the alternative energy (hybrid) bandwagon in a big way. Obama's convention speech calling for a 10 year campaign to switch to alternative sources of energy may carry deeper resonance.
For the Israel Firsters, Palin may be a problem. Palin has no foreign policy experience. No Israel experience. Her AIPAC rating? When you enter her name on the AIPAC home page, you get this:
Your search - palin - did not match any documents.
No pages were found containing "palin".
The RJC's Greenfield says her AIPAC relationships are great, but confined to Alaska. And Republicans are now marshalling a great comeback to the charge that Palin once supported Pat Buchanan.
Buchanan is anathema to the Jews. He is someone who has blamed Israel and American Jews for directing American foreign policy against American interests. He has spoken kindly of Adolph Hitler -- who is not popular with Jews -- and, well, this is going to be interesting.
Sarah Palin might cause the Israel Firsters, who seemed to be pretty much done with Obama, to take a second look.
http://www.jewishjournal.com/articles/item/analysis_sarah_palin_and_th e_jews_20080829/ |
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UndrUrSkin
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Sep 05, 2008 - 08:27 PM |
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Hey Simple Jack,
They even have heated mezuzah's in Alaska so when the Eskimo's come home to the igloo they can warm their hands and defrost their tallis at the same time. |
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Cambronne
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Sep 05, 2008 - 10:05 PM |
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Jews are among the largest pro-choice constituency in the country.
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This one is very interesting. Jews are pro-"choice" for goys, prolife for themselves. They also strongly promote inter-ethnic marriages for goys, ethnic purity for themselves. These are facts. You may want to ask yourselves: why? |
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CoffeeHawk_0
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Sep 05, 2008 - 10:38 PM |
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There's power in numbers.
Same as the Catholic Church and the "no condom/no abortion, but if you're married you can hump like rabbits" routine.
Keep in mind the 3 largest organizations are Hindus, Budhists, and Muslims, with Jews and Catholics in 4th and 5th* place. And let's face it, look how many wars have been started by Christians in the last 2000 years. If anyone knows about the need for numbers.........
*it was only recently the Catholics voted to include all Bible based factions including arch enemies such as Protestants and Episcopalians under one umbrella, and, jumble the accounting methods to use geography as a meterstick for religious affiliation such that they could now claim the number one spot. I suspect the Hindus, Budhists, and Muslims were not allowed to vote in that one. |
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genghis
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Sep 06, 2008 - 12:13 AM |
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Uh, CoffeHawk... Not sure where you get you numbers but look at the real ones:
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# Christianity: 2.1 billion
# Islam: 1.5 billion
# Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist: 1.1 billion
# Hinduism: 900 million
# Chinese traditional religion (Taoism/Confucionism): 394 million
# Buddhism: 376 million
# primal-indigenous: 300 million
# African Traditional & Diasporic: 100 million
# Sikhism: 23 million
# Juche: 19 million
# Spiritism: 15 million
# Judaism: 14 million
# Baha'i: 7 million
# Jainism: 4.2 million
# Shinto: 4 million
# Cao Dai: 4 million
# Zoroastrianism: 2.6 million
# Tenrikyo: 2 million
# Neo-Paganism: 1 million
# Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand
# Rastafarianism: 600 thousand
# Scientology: 500 thousand |
Christianity is not the same as Catholicism.
Also, please be aware of this very important fact. Worldwide "Baywatch" viewership peaked at 2.3 billion. Therefore, Pamela Anderson running in slow motion was more inspirational than Jesus. |
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UndrUrSkin
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Sep 06, 2008 - 12:45 AM |
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| Also, please be aware of this very important fact. Worldwide "Baywatch" viewership peaked at 2.3 billion. Therefore, Pamela Anderson running in slow motion was more inspirational than Jesus. |
Now that's a fact you can sink your teeth into! |
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Buzzd
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Sep 06, 2008 - 01:46 AM |
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Hindus, Budhists, and Muslims, with Jews and Catholics
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Apart from Catholics, these are all new terms for the Palinator as she only first heard about them a week ago. Please be considerate in this obviously stressfull period for her and her family. Did we mention that she has a child with Down's syndrome, and that she likes to fish!
Thank you for your understanding and cooperation. We can assure you that she attends church on a regular basis, and that we have looked into her eyes and seen her soul. God Bless and God speed.
The GOP (AKA: The Republican Party) |
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