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Post  Posted: Feb 17, 2009 - 11:34 AM  Reply with quote  Back to top
Post subject: (Z) Work Visa / Res Permits Issues START HERE

"Work (Z) Visa's for Dummies -the Beginner's Guide"

Go to this link for the article===>>>
http://www.shanghaiexpat.com/community/index.php/2008/04/25/guide_to_g etting_your_z_visa_work_aamp_r?blog=5

Then if you still have questions, go ahead and post a new thread. Otherwsie, beware of the backlash that may follow...

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Post  Posted: Feb 17, 2009 - 01:51 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

My Z Working Visa and Permanent Visa are expiring last month....I have been told I cannot leave the country to have these renewed.

But I want to go to Hong Kong to have these done....

I am sure that I am special and that no one has ever asked any questions about Visa's on this site...

So I would appreciate your help in sorting this out.

TIA

(Ed....feel free to delete this at some point! Bored today! Very Happy )

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Post  Posted: Feb 17, 2009 - 02:05 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

p1atl10 wrote:
My Z Working Visa and Permanent Visa are expiring last month....I have been told I cannot leave the country to have these renewed.

But I want to go to Hong Kong to have these done....

I am sure that I am special and that no one has ever asked any questions about Visa's on this site...

So I would appreciate your help in sorting this out.

TIA

(Ed....feel free to delete this at some point! Bored today! Very Happy )


You mean your residence permit is expiring, obviously.

HK authorities have no authority to approve, extend, cancel or otherwise modify Mainland documents such as a residence permit or visa. Even if you went to the PRC Visa Office, they are not able to do anything. Only the PSB has the authority to deal with residence permits.

Looks like you're SOL.

P.S. Yes, you are special. Wink

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Post  Posted: Feb 17, 2009 - 02:43 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

^ You do know I was just pulling Ed's leg don't you! Very Happy

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p1atl10 wrote:
^ You do know I was just pulling Ed's leg don't you! Very Happy


I know now. Embarassed

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Post  Posted: Feb 17, 2009 - 04:17 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Once in gosh know how many years...I get one over on you!!!

Excellent!!

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Post  Posted: Feb 17, 2009 - 10:16 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

I am sure we could make a good list of repeat and funny questions asked about the residentce permit Z visa thing that could rival the boring thread... maybe one day i will. Smile

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Post  Posted: Feb 22, 2009 - 09:32 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Hi Yu888,
Here is another idea for a sticky post: what about make a sticky post regarding Tax reimbursement program for foreigners?
I remember it has been popping up in several threads.

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Post  Posted: Mar 06, 2009 - 02:09 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

I agree. And also, why can't we arrange our own superannuation account? Hi Yu888, do you have any idea about the super a/c and insurance in Shanghai? I am totally confused.
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Post  Posted: Mar 06, 2009 - 06:09 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Chinese employers do not need to contribute to any employee benefit funds for foreigners, including into teh AUS Superannuation fund. BUT as an individual you may choose to contribute. Consult an AUS financial professional for advice on that.

Will look into the Tax reimburse info before tagging up a sticky as we really need a viable answer first to link it to.

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Post  Posted: Mar 06, 2009 - 06:11 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

yu888 wrote:
Chinese employers do not need to contribute to any employee benefit funds for foreigners, including into teh AUS Superannuation fund. BUT as an individual you may choose to contribute. Consult an AUS financial professional for advice on that.

Will look into the Tax reimburse info before tagging up a sticky as we really need a viable answer first to link it to.


Actually, expats are not allowed at all to contribute to the government-sponsored social security funds.

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Post  Posted: Mar 06, 2009 - 06:24 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

^ i was only referring to ozzies and their superannuation fund, NOT to local benefits funds

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Post  Posted: Mar 18, 2009 - 07:44 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

"Work (Z) Visa's for Dummies -the Beginner's Guide"

Hi yu888

I found your detailed "Work (Z) Visa Guide" most informative. Would the same procedure apply pertaining to Work (Z) Visa if a foreigner wants to set up a bar ? I am aware that a foreigner requires a Chinese partner and Cooperative Joint Venture would possibly be the route to go.

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Post  Posted: Mar 18, 2009 - 07:48 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

"Work (Z) Visa's for Dummies -the Beginner's Guide"

Hi yu888

I found your detailed "Work (Z) Visa Guide" most informative. Would the same procedure apply pertaining to Work (Z) Visa if a foreigner wants to set up a bar ? I am aware that a foreigner requires a Chinese partner and Cooperative Joint Venture would possibly be the route to go.

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Post  Posted: Mar 19, 2009 - 11:37 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

^ first off, it IS legal for foreigners to wholly own a bar. Not sure who is trying to get your money for a venture of theirs but you can have a WOFE bar. yes it may be costly but it can be done. Consult a lawyer to get best results on that.

As for Work visa etc...the business needs to be set up completely before you can even apply to hire yourself. ownership may or may not even affect the process as if your paid up capital isnt enough, the labor bureau may not see why your business needs to hire a foreigner when all kinds of bars in business are run by locals.

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Post  Posted: May 06, 2009 - 01:17 AM  Reply with quote  Back to top

SPAMMING a MOD thread....Brilliant!

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Post  Posted: May 08, 2009 - 09:42 AM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Please can someone tell me if i need a degree to get a work visa.. or is there anyway around it???

i have so much experience in business and want to teach business english.

what csan i do????
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Post  Posted: May 27, 2009 - 02:38 AM  Reply with quote  Back to top

I don't know the details of that policy, but two weeks ago I was specifically asked to send in the original copy of my Diploma then the photocopy of my professional certificate.
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Post  Posted: June 28, 2009 - 11:35 AM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Hi Yu888,
Thanks for writing this guide, and helping all of us out so much! I have a question that I couldn't find the answer to on this site. Maybe I missed something, but I hope not!

My question:

My residence permit and work permit expire on July 31, which is my last day of work. I need to fly the next day, as my work runs pretty late. Do you know about extending my stay - by way of my residence permit, a new L visa, or any other means ?
My work doesn't know what to do about this.

My boyfriend recently extended his L visa for one month, and it cost 900RMB. We are both Americans.

Thanks again!
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Post  Posted: June 28, 2009 - 11:46 AM  Reply with quote  Back to top

yes.....go to the PSB in Pudong, and apply for an exit visa (which is a 0 entry tourist visa). Apply at least a week before your RP expires. You're right, Americans pay 900 RMB. The exit visa should get you 30 days. You're then supposed to register your residence at the local PSB station also using the new visa, but seeing as you're leaving so soon, I wouldn't bother.

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Post  Posted: June 28, 2009 - 12:11 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Thanks Shangstar. I guess there are pros and cons to being an American!
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remember that the start date of the exit visa will be the date it is issued. it wont be post-dated to the day after your RP expires. Therefore, dont apply too early, like this coming Monday. 7-10 days before expiry of current RP will be fine.

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Post  Posted: June 28, 2009 - 01:27 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Yep, 940 i think is the wonderful number. really if you are required to work that last day of yoru visa, yoru company should be paying for your extension, or give you time off to stay legal...but TIC, I know. Anyhow Shangstar is right, dont go TOO early as your new visa will be a L taht starts as soon as you apply for it.

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Post  Posted: July 01, 2009 - 12:36 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Update on Residence Permit Extension:
I had a Chinese friend call the Pudong PSB to ask about any other (cheaper) options. The PSB told me to call the police station where I registered. They in turn told me to call the PSB. So I had my boss call, and finally they said that I can apply for a 10 or 15 day residence permit extension - cost unknown as of now.
They said I can take some documents, apply for the extension, and the PSB will decide how many days to give me (could be less than the amount applied for).

Documents needed:
- Passport
- Work Permit
- Original Temporary Registration Form from Police Station
- Small Photo
- Letter from work explaining why I need an extension

At the PSB I will find an application form for this process.
I will go apply for this and post the results.
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