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SatelliteTV
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| Shine you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. There are direct fiber lines from Taipei into Shanghai and many other areas of China. SO we are INSIDE what you call the Great Firewall of China. |
If Taiwan is inside the GFW, then why non of the websites of Formosa can be accessed from here?? (www.taiwandc.org)
Do not underestimate technology and the ppl monitoring the GFW. |
Next you will be claiming they are going to block out signals from satellite providers whose footprints cover China.... now there's an idea. But why would they. Satellite TV is legal for Taiwanese and HK expats in China as well as Hotels and other people with permission to have dishes. Good thing is my streaming customers don't need dishes, nor permits.
But none of my IP addreses are on websites. They are not linked to any URL's. We are talking about my IP addresses for the streaming systems not Taiwan website addresses.... Capice?
I also buy various ranges of IP addresses from ICAAN... Capice?
Site opens fine for me. Maybe you should do some maintenance on your own computer. The Chinese government alos blocks wesbites in China it deems inapproriate for the masses here as well.
In the years I have had streaming customers in China have never had anybody blocked. Not likely to either. Last year some of my Shanghai bar customers were inspected for dishes.... cops went up on the rooftops of the bars and found no dishes. Cops came downstairs and the bar staff showed them the internet streaming. All fine the coppers said, just don't have illegal dishes. Many other bars were fined and some had their receivers and pay cards confiscated.
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bigroh73
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My god, its been 3 hours since your last post SatTV. I'm impressed.
Just accept that your "reasonable" prices are not for everyone. Entertainment venues, businesses, and people that can afford high rents believe your service is great and economical.
Many who are not in that situation are quite happy to pay under 2,000rmb and enjoy something that is basically similar with you, albeit without your "generous" customer service support, etc.
There will always be people (as you keep referring too) that are happy to fork out US$1200+ for your solution which you say is high quality and the best available.
Don't get so defensive about every person who has a different opinion, or feel the urge to counter-claim every single person that makes a comment related to your field of expertise. Its ok.... |
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SatelliteTV
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May 09, 2009 - 09:58 AM |
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My god, its been 3 hours since your last post SatTV. I'm impressed.
Just accept that your "reasonable" prices are not for everyone. .... |
I have always stated that this is not for everyone. Read through my posts I have said this many times.
For many the English TV content is not so much of a luxury as a necessity. I cater to a niche market of clients who are prepared to pay the less than what they would pay back in their home country's to get similar content. |
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| Many who are not in that situation are quite happy to pay under 2,000rmb and enjoy something that is basically similar with you, albeit without your "generous" customer service support, etc. |
Sure you are happy to pay under 2000rmb... the problem is that none of the satellite providers with good packages provide services at these prices.
I have people who teach English in China paying for my services. You dont need to be a top flight expat to afford this.
Some of the people who pay for this do not want to go to bars where they would spend more per weekend watching sports than they spend a month for tv streaming. The have low budgets and being able to stay at home and not go out so much is what they want.
Some are sharing a flat with others and share the cost.
Customer service support... a must in this business.
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bigroh73
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Sure you are happy to pay under 2000rmb... the problem is that none of the satellite providers with good packages provide services at these prices.
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Yeah right - none provide this, but its easily available on the usual providers that don't rip us off to the tune of US$1200. I've enjoyed my system for under 2,000rmb for the past 6-7 years in China. I think there are many others in the same situation. Deal with it - get over it, and please stop feeling the urge to argue with everyone and anyone on this website. Its getting boring.
Everyone: Now - lets see how long it takes for him to reply. I bet he can't go 12hrs without a reply. He can't do it!! He just HAS to respond to every comment that doesn't agree with him. |
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SatelliteTV
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May 09, 2009 - 10:38 AM |
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Yeah right - none provide this, but its easily available on the usual providers that don't rip us off to the tune of US$1200. I've enjoyed my system for under 2,000rmb for the past 6-7 years in China. I think there are many others in the same situation. Deal with it - get over it, and please stop feeling the urge to argue with everyone and anyone on this website. Its getting boring.
Everyone: Now - lets see how long it takes for him to reply. I bet he can't go 12hrs without a reply. He can't do it!! He just HAS to respond to every comment that doesn't agree with him. |
Rip you off? Bit of a bold statement that one is. Seeing as you have never paid me for any services, and also that you have been ripping off pirated content from Dream TV. So hypocrytical..... you make claims that I rip people off as they pay for legitimate subscriptions whilst you use a pirated TV system.... You don't see the irony in that at all.
So all of the content I have is readliy available on the usual providers? Please let everybody here know which other provider has all the channels on the one system that I have... They are surely very interested. You will also tell them they can have it for less than 2000rmb no doubt.
Why don't you take the time to view the Truevisions or DSTV websites and see what their subscription rates are before you mouth off about being ripped off. Just admit you prefer to steal what you don't want to pay for.
Yes you have enjoyed a pirated system for the last 7 years. So what... You can still enjoy it for free.... just with less content than before.
What makes me laugh is when people who use pirated systems come along and complain about the poor content now on their systems. It's the customers who have paid that I feel sorry for.
My systems cost more as my clients pay for legitimate subscriptions and thats why the costs are higher. |
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livestrong
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I'm borowing this thread for just a sec or two.
I've already read the about the whole Dream situation, and that channels "often" come and go. But I would like to ask if anybody knows how to get ESPN and Star Sports back. I fully understand if you don't have any info about Dream putting them back any time soon, or not. But is there any other supplier I could use instead?
I'm just a tad frustrated about missing out on all the sports. OK, it's not like I'm watching everything that moves just because it's called sport. But it would be nice to be able to follow the F1 for example, now when it has reached Europe... etc.
Tnx in advance. (I still want to use the SAT option, because I think that is easier and my landlord is the one paying for the channels)
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bigroh73
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I guess i won that bet - it only took him 8 mins to reply. I knew he couldn't resist.
Mr livestrong,
To get them back would require you to switch to another system, such as one based in HK. Friend of mine has switched from Dream in the past week to a HK-based one - cost him 1900rmb and has every channel on Dream, plus the ones that were lost, along with many other additional channels as well. Works on the same satellite dish as he had before.
I'm sure Mr SatTV will come back here telling us that its a terrible system with no customer service and is unreliable - let's see how long it takes.
Alternatively, just watch the event online, from www.myp2p.eu, or www.spvod.com etc.... Connect your computer to the TV if you have that option. I also like to watch the F1, and don't feel like listening to Chinese commentary on CCTV-5. |
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missbeverly
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Well satelliteTV, *I* may think it's expensive, but I'm sure many others will think it's cheap as chips and that's a wonderful thing for you. It's called personal opinion - a very rare concept, I'm starting to realise.
There's no need to get your panties in a twist.
Build a bridge and get over it. |
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cankles
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Well said missbeverly. Now be prepared for the backhander reply stating that you're cheap from satelliteTV.
I too think the price is expensive- more than Foxtel back home, and isn't comparable in quality of service, nor content.
In my opinion the basic service for 100-odd RMB will get western news. DVD shops can provide shows and movies in HD (when you want to watch them). The Web is your friend - many TV stations are streaming their shows legit these days. And be sociable and watch sport at your favourite pub - though that last option seems to cost me a bit  |
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bigroh73
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Thanks guys for the support - i think we share a common opinion with many others. I honestly think most people are sick of posting comments with his threads - understandable!
This guy seems to get pretty upset if someone has a different opinion with him - like he almost takes it as a personal attack on his character.
Good for him that there are "many" people who are happy to pay his prices - many are not. And that doesn't mean we're all terrible for doing so.
In addition to myp2p.eu and spvod.com, there is also youku and verycd.com, pps and numerous others, - all are quite good options for watching something online or downloading. I don't think I'll be racing out to pay US$1k for "the new legit/official" Dream Satellite system where there seems to be more and more other options available these days.
Congrats to him too. I'll give some credit (a little) where its deserved - he's gone almost 24hrs without a reply - thats a significant step for him. Well done dude.
Let's all enjoy the rest of this nice warm weekend!!
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redtab1
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bigroh73 - as someone who paid for the "legit" Dream (not interested in the pirate stuff) needless to say I was not too happy about just losing the key channels and being told "tough luck". Do you have anymore details about the HK system - like who I can contact about obtaining it.
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SatelliteTV
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May 10, 2009 - 01:24 PM |
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| bigroh73 - as someone who paid for the "legit" Dream (not interested in the pirate stuff) needless to say I was not too happy about just losing the key channels and being told "tough luck". Do you have anymore details about the HK system - like who I can contact about obtaining it. Thanks very much |
Send a PM to EXAT93. He has a second hand DM500 on the HK satellite.
If you want to buy the HK satellite ask somebody in HK to buy you the legitimate decoder and pay card. I will be in HK at may apartment there Tuesday so will ask what the prices are for the legitimate package.
The channel list is here. http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/hkc.html
You can also look at one of the local Chinese satellites that carries content as well. CBTV Satellite carries some English content. I believe it costs around rmb4000 a year
http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/cbsat.html
ESPN STAR sports schedules for this package here
http://www.espnstar.com/tv-listings/region1/day1/
If you can put up large enough dishes for the Thai satelite Truevisions or DSTV Superposrts they have a very good packages which if paid upfront for 12 months gets an extra month free for True and for DSTV if paid upfront for 11 months the 12 month free.... It's about US$610 for the legitimate subscription for a 12 month subscription ( if paid upfront Truevisions give you 13 months ), the pay card also costs an additional 4000baht or US$115 to buy as they are not provided free by Truevisions.
DSTV Supersports costs are slightly more. All this depends on the exchange rates. Last December when I paid for a lot of subscriptions the other currencies were very weak against the US$.
The Top package from Foxtel costs AUD$130pm. I have a bar customer in Shenzen who pays this pus another AUD$50pm for their own 2mb uploaded bandwidth. They are using a sling box. However Australian Bandwidth is capped so they can only stream around 65 hours a month before incurring a slow down of speeds. Thats about US$140pm for them and they do this by themelves not through me. |
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| Mr livestrong, To get them back would require you to switch to another system, such as one based in HK. Friend of mine has switched from Dream in the past week to a HK-based one - cost him 1900rmb and has every channel on Dream, plus the ones that were lost, along with many other additional channels as well. Works on the same satellite dish as he had before. |
I wont come back saying anything about the 1900rmb pirated system.
Expat93 here had one before so maybe you can buy his dm500 pirated HK satellite as he doesnt use it anymore. Dish and receiver available.
Send Expat93 a PM and ask him if he wants to sell his unused pirated HK satellite system. |
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shaka121
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May 10, 2009 - 10:53 PM |
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I decided to pay the extra for the legit feed of DSTV and Truevisions. I tried the pirated stuff for over a year but got pretty pissed off by the reception and the fact that the channels often disapeared for no good reason.
I have been running the Hava streaming to my Macbook Pro for about 3 weeks. Must say I really love it. I play onto a large screen TV at home and the bonus is that the channels travel with me anywhere I go when I am on the road. Belive me, that is a cool option to have when I am staying in some crappy 2nd tier city which has no English TV.
I guess the Taiwan Sat service may seem a little expensive to some at first. When you break it down to a monthly charge however it is really not bad. And the one thing that makes it truly worthwhile is the after sales support. I have been on to them at all hours of the day and night and they have been excellent in talking me thgrough my tech problems.
If there is anyone thinking about using this service...... I would highly recomend it !....and no, I am not getting paid to post this !!!! |
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LordChatfield
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Hey guys why dont you try the Dreambox pacakages?
I have just installed a dreambox system connected to Hong Kong and Taiwan satellites and can receive, amongst others, HBO, Cinemax, ESPN Asia, ESPN Taiwan, Star Sports Asia, Star Sports Taiwan, I-Sports, I-Super Soccer, NBA TV, PGA Tour TV.
I have Premier League games and Formula 1.
The amount I paid was only 3000RMB which included equipment, installation and 1 year subscription.
The picture quality is far better than the Dream satellite TV.
No need to pay the truly overpriced costs for streaming pacakges offered by Mr Satellite.
Remember the streaming content offered is a minimum 1 year contract and you never know the channels my return to Dream. Also remember Bensports will probably be back as well.
Although it wouldn't suprise me if the Bensports if off until Mr Satellite has made plenty of money having all the suckers pay for his streaming first.
I wouldn't trust Mr Satellite anyway, he complains about people stealing signals and pirates and so on and preaches his holier than thou "legit" subscriptions then why is it that Bensports feeds are from Truevisions and Supersports but they try to cover up the logos and the banners with their own.
They surely are "stealing" content from others.
I have been on the English Premier League website and checked on the world wide TV coverage and Bensports is not listed as a provider for any country.
Anyway like I said stop lining this fellas pockets. stop listening to his propeganda as there are more (cheaper) alternatives to seeing sports and movies. Get yourself a Dreambox system.
check out www.hbocn.com and make up your own mind. |
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May 13, 2009 - 01:49 PM |
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| Hey guys ...No need to pay the truly overpriced costs for streaming pacakges offered by Mr Satellite. Anyway like I said stop lining this fellas pockets. stop listening to his propeganda as there are more (cheaper) alternatives to seeing sports and movies. Get yourself a Dreambox system. check out www.hbocn.com and make up your own mind. |
All your points are valid. Funnily enough you are prepared to pay for pirated boxes and pay more for the Taiwan satellite than the legitimate subscription  . So you are still lining someones pockets hehehe.
No holier than thou attitude I just dont use pirated systems for my streaming services. Pirated systems will always be cheaper than non pirated ones. Thats a fact of life.
The reason many of my customers who had the pirated HK satellite ( like Expat93 ) dropped it was for a lack of content, as it does not carry the channels or programs their family wanted.
There are always cheaper alternatives. Free p2p sites bit torrents and other chinese web tv sites.
If you are happy with your pirated system thats good. Many others may be happy with the same content others will not be so. So there is room for everybody to get what they need. 
We have many customers living in buildings that do not even allow dishes even on the balcony.
I find it very ironic when expats complain to me in emails that Chinese companies are stealing their product ideas or making clones of their hardware, that they then pay for pirated TV. 
By the way, EPSN STAR on the HK sateliite doesnt carry EPL games....
http://www.espnstar.com/tv-listings/region1/day4/
EPSN STAR Taiwan next year have confirmed only 1 game Saturday and 1 Game Sunday will be broadcast as Fubon Bank in Taiwan, who paid for the EPL to be shown on Taiwans EPSN STAR for their online betting the second half of the season this year, will not do so next year as there is little interest from Taiwanese on betting on the EPL.
But large betting occurs for NBA and Baseball so that is what will be shown Saturday and Sunday nights on Taiwans ESPN STAR next EPL season.. |
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catur
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Hey guys why dont you try the Dreambox pacakages?
I have just installed a dreambox system connected to Hong Kong and Taiwan satellites and can receive, amongst others, HBO, Cinemax, ESPN Asia, ESPN Taiwan, Star Sports Asia, Star Sports Taiwan, I-Sports, I-Super Soccer, NBA TV, PGA Tour TV.
I have Premier League games and Formula 1.
The amount I paid was only 3000RMB which included equipment, installation and 1 year subscription.
The picture quality is far better than the Dream satellite TV. |
I just bought the same (I think) for rmb1900 (I had a Dream-size dish already). Very good picture quality, many sports channels, Taiwan/HK Chinese channels that Chinese love, and all others that Dream had (I don't think it has Australia network). Only negative is that many of the channels are in written Chinese on the onscreen guide, although they are English language stations. I've made my own guide to use. More than enough channels for me to watch.
I used the "legitimate" Dream box for a year (bought from Jim, good service and no complaints), then recently lost much of the worthwhile content. I don't need his expensive (my subjective opinion) system, and Dream is not worth anything close to what they want to renew. I'm not sure this HK/Taiwan/International is a pirate system, probably is. While I prefer to not buy the pirate, I can't accept paying for the overpriced/low value "legit" systems here. I hope the situation changes and I can buy a "legit" system again in the future.
PM me if you need the guy who sold me mine, I've had nearly a week, no problems. He speaks English. |
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shanghaidream
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Animal Plante is back on Dream! |
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caffe1962
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i just buy a new decoderf for satellite tv, connected via internet because my previuos decoder for DREAM dont work in the area wher i'm, i keep only the disk, i can see HBO, Star movie , Cinemax, espn, star sport an all the other, the cost 1300 rmb+ 300 for set up , all for 1 year |
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SatelliteTV
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| i just buy a new decoderf for satellite tv, connected via internet because my previuos decoder for DREAM dont work in the area wher i'm, i keep only the disk, i can see HBO, Star movie , Cinemax, espn, star sport an all the other, the cost 1300 rmb+ 300 for set up , all for 1 year |
Good stuff |
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Misteral
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I enjoy my TV (Pirate Dream) but the day I think that TV is a necessity is the day I give up..............I mean it. |
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SatelliteTV
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I enjoy my TV (Pirate Dream) but the day I think that TV is a necessity is the day I give up..............I mean it. |
Well I guess if Dream TV cut's off all the pirate boxes that day may come soon lol. However, there are many families living in remote locations away frm the large cities who do find it a boon in keeping some sanity in their lives.
I rarely watch TV myself. I just don't have the time..
Just as some people find the need to socialize with others they go to bars. So there are plenty of bars in Shanghai, catering to what their clients want.
Next week I will be back home in Alishan, living in the fresh mountain air up at 7,000 feet, wading in the streams that are not far from my home. No TV required. |
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Dream +Bensports was good till 1st.May. People ask me what else I could do since sports and movie are gone. Here is what you looking for:
Mega System: RMB3600 for 55cm Dish, Decoder, Installation and one year service. If the user already has a dish for the Dream Satellite, I can add one or two LNB's to their existing dish and complete the installation for RMB3000. This system requires the subscriber to have ADSL installed in their home; the decoder needs to be connected either via a route cable or wireless broadcast. One year service renewals are RMB1500.
The current broadcast includes:
AXN (x2) BBC Cinemax (Chinese Sub) CNBC
CNN Discovery ESPN National Geographic Channel
Phoenix Movies Phoenix News Star movies (Chinese Sub) Travel & Living
Star Sports i-cable sports TV5 TVB(Chinese Movies)
TVB8 CHANNEL V TVB-G Cartoon Network
HMC (Chinese Sub) Discovery NBA TV Hallmark (Chinese Sub)
Super Soccer PGA TOUR 星河电影 三立新闻
三立电影 三立国际 东森新闻 东森电影
东森亚洲 东森财经 东森戏剧 东森洋片
东森综合 中天新闻 中天 综合
中视 公视 华视 非凡新闻
东方卫视海外版 中央电视台国际频道 北京电视台国际频道 南方电视台卫星频道
厦门卫视 江苏电视台国际频道 海峡卫视 深圳电视台
湖南电视台 香港有线电影一台 香港有线新闻台 香港有线财经资讯台 |
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dalaohu
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My price 1000RMB lower than Upfloor. |
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