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fWerrF
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| Marakanis wrote: |
It's not stupid to think otherwise. You prove me right in your next couple sentences.
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lets use north korea as an example, you would agree there aren't really any expats there, since its a self-enclosed nation.
are you really telling me there is no beer, no internet, no computer, no cars, no foreign cuisine no cafe and bakery shops there???   they have all of those. whether their ppl can afford or have access to it, its another question. but they have all those things. |
No, access to those things is the ONLY QUESTION! The only thing that matters is whether the lives of individual citizens are better. If a country "has" something but NO ONE CAN USE IT, then it is USELESS! Thanks to the expat community here, everyone in China has access to all those things. Not everyone can afford it, but thanks to foreign company jobs, the Chinese are no longer used as slave labor and many people have money and can go use those things and improve themselves. Thanks for proving me right with your amazing stupidity once again. |
You just changed your whole argument.
Your point was not if ppl's lives are better by affording those things, your point was without expats those things will not exist. which i already proved you wrong.
In north korea, there is no expat/foreign influence. but there are cars, beer, computer and etc there.
even if you want to talk about accessibility, i am sure north korean ppl have access to beer and computers. very few ppl would afford cars there, just like china not everyone can afford one either. and even in USA not everyone has a car.
i don't know why you insist on continuing. admit that you got carried away and was being too exaggerated, and i will let u slide 
otherwise ur too f0cking stupid, did ur mom f0ck a dumb stick and had you??
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| Do you think that there would be an El Mexicano or Cantina Agave without foreign influence? If so, you are so frackin retarded that your head must be shoved straight up your rear so far that it's popped out your spine, which is why you're half a man in every respect. |
are we talking non-chinese food, or mexican food only now??? cuz you change your f0cking argument in every post.
without expats and foreign influence, there WILL BE foreign cuisines. you are the crazy if u don't think so.
whats stopping a chinese guy who spent years in japan to open a japanese restaurant after he returns home??
whats stopping a chinese guy who spent years in texas to open a bbq restaurant after he returns home??
man ur insane.
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| And you're right, expats include foreign business travel and tourism. Imagine all that money being taken out of the economy here. Paints a pretty grim picture. |
no, i meant "foreigners are not just expats, there are also business travelers and tourist".
business travelers and tourists are NOT expat, even if just to make money off them, there will be foreign restaurant. so again that proves your statement false.
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| As to the railroads, the Chinese were not slaves, they came over voluntarily. Was their treatment great? No, but they chose to be there. |
no they did not go over voluntarily. ur f0cking ignorant.
they were lied to or forced to.
know whats the chinese name for san francisco? its "old gold mountain", why did it get that name? cuz chinese slave labors were lied to, thinking gold can be easily mined in america and they could easily get rich. so they came, and found out otherwise.
u know jacksh1t about history, but i didn't expect any better from a crachwh0re's son.
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| Mexicans washing dishes in a new york restaurant are indeed expats. theYes, that is definition of an expat. MORON! |
bwahahahahaha, this is joke of the year.
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| You're like a little monkey in a cage being poked with sticks, except you feel so high and mighty being the master of your little cage that you don't realize everyone outside is laughing and pointing at your stupid face. |
its amazing you can so vividly describe this, must be from your own personal experience. thats how u feel most of time, isn't it? or else u can't possibly paint the picture that well |
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fWerrF
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| But, as much as respect the ingenuity of the Chinese people and government, I am absolutely confident that without foreign investment and influence, Shanghai would not have developed nearly as fast as it did, nor would it currently look the same as it does now. |
i do not dispute that. i agree with what you said.
the only reason the whole p1ssing match happened and dragged on, is because someone stated without expats Chinese ppl would be slitting eachother's throat on the streets for 5 rmb. |
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^ Yeah, sometimes there is too much heat, and not enough light. |
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fWerrF
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| If it weren't for expats, the Chinese wouldn't even know they wanted those things. |
that is completely baseless.
if there as no expats, a local rich guy will never know he wants a car?? and even if he knows he wants a car, he would never know a bentley is sicker than a honda???
do you just spit words out of your a$$??
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| They can't even leave the country without asking permission of the government you tool! Most are DENIED! |
that was how the communism system worked. its not the same freedom as a western country. i have no problem admitting that.
even if some ppl could obtain a passport to leave china, its virtually impossible to get a western country visa to actually go there.
BUT all the above HAS NOTHING TO DO with your argument.
with the country developing, when its more realistic for chinese citizens to actually travel aboard. the government let them. how the f0ck does that have anything to do with expats??
are you just dying to take any credits??? |
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Marakanis
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Nov 04, 2009 - 01:29 PM |
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You just changed your whole argument.
Your point was not if ppl's lives are better by affording those things, your point was without expats those things will not exist. which i already proved you wrong. |
Nope, my point was without expat influence those things would not be here, and you never proved me wrong. You have no links of those things being able to get here without foreign influence. If China closed its borders, why would they even bother trying to get their citizens a better life? The entire point of getting these technological improvements is a foreign one to China. As Buddha said, Life is Suffering. Why would you evolve beyond what you have if you're meant to suffer?
The culture of China has changed BECAUSE of expat influence and that is why they WANT these things that foreigners have.
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In north korea, there is no expat/foreign influence. but there are cars, beer, computer and etc there.
even if you want to talk about accessibility, i am sure north korean ppl have access to beer and computers. very few ppl would afford cars there, just like china not everyone can afford one either. and even in USA not everyone has a car. |
North Korea has a different culture and a completely different people. It is not relevant to this conversation about China and has no bearing on my points.
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i don't know why you insist on continuing. admit that you got carried away and was being too exaggerated, and i will let u slide
otherwise ur too f0cking stupid, did ur mom f0ck a dumb stick and had you?? |
HURR HURR! You're so SMRT... I didn't get carried away. If I had a magical machine and could instantly remove all the expats and expat influenced things from Shanghai right now, what would be left? All those thieves, all those people who beg for money from people passing in the street, all those people who make a little extra cash by gouging laowais on prices. What do you think will happen to them?
The scenario of a person slitting someone's throat for 5kuai doesn't seem too far off in that situation.
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| Do you think that there would be an El Mexicano or Cantina Agave without foreign influence? If so, you are so frackin retarded that your head must be shoved straight up your rear so far that it's popped out your spine, which is why you're half a man in every respect. |
are we talking non-chinese food, or mexican food only now??? cuz you change your f0cking argument in every post.
without expats and foreign influence, there WILL BE foreign cuisines. you are the crazy if u don't think so.
whats stopping a chinese guy who spent years in japan to open a japanese restaurant after he returns home??
whats stopping a chinese guy who spent years in texas to open a bbq restaurant after he returns home?? |
Hey dumfuk... WHAT FOODS DO CHINESE EAT?! If they can't leave the country... WHAT COUNTRY'S CUSINES WOULD THEY HAVE TRIED?!
None, there would be none. Nothing but Chinese food. And if you're too stupid to understand that (which we already know you are), you're too stupid to understand this. Chinese who leave the country, the only time they come back is if they want to try and "change China and make it a better place by bringing in the things they learned from a FOREIGN country." Foreign influence, expat influence... Got it?
No, you don't, because you're an idiot.
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| And you're right, expats include foreign business travel and tourism. Imagine all that money being taken out of the economy here. Paints a pretty grim picture. |
no, i meant "foreigners are not just expats, there are also business travelers and tourist".
business travelers and tourists are NOT expat, even if just to make money off them, there will be foreign restaurant. so again that proves your statement false. |
If there are no expats here to sell foreign foods to, why would you start a business for them? If there are no foreign influenced people here who want to try a cuisine, why would you start a business for that? You haven't proved anything false, you only prove me right with every stupid thing you say.
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| As to the railroads, the Chinese were not slaves, they came over voluntarily. Was their treatment great? No, but they chose to be there. |
no they did not go over voluntarily. ur f0cking ignorant.
they were lied to or forced to.
know whats the chinese name for san francisco? its "old gold mountain", why did it get that name? cuz chinese slave labors were lied to, thinking gold can be easily mined in america and they could easily get rich. so they came, and found out otherwise.
u know jacksh1t about history, but i didn't expect any better from a crachwh0re's son. |
Uhh, there WAS gold there. They weren't lied to. I'm sure things were exagerrated, but you know what. A lot came of their own free will. Some didn't, but that's life. It's not all one way or the other. I know a lot more about history than you, because if you think everything is from just one point of view, you're more of a frackin' mongoloid than I thought.
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| Mexicans washing dishes in a new york restaurant are indeed expats. theYes, that is definition of an expat. MORON! |
bwahahahahaha, this is joke of the year. |
No... You are... Mexicans come to California and other areas all the time to send money home to Mexico and their family. Eventually they go back home to start a business or retire. Those... ARE EXPATS YOU IDIOT!
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| You're like a little monkey in a cage being poked with sticks, except you feel so high and mighty being the master of your little cage that you don't realize everyone outside is laughing and pointing at your stupid face. |
its amazing you can so vividly describe this, must be from your own personal experience. thats how u feel most of time, isn't it? or else u can't possibly paint the picture that well |
Yeah, I can paint a picture with words well because I'm a writer and have an imagination. Unlike a simplistic little moron I know whose name sounds like a vaginal sex noise. |
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Marakanis
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Nov 04, 2009 - 01:34 PM |
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| If it weren't for expats, the Chinese wouldn't even know they wanted those things. |
that is completely baseless.
if there as no expats, a local rich guy will never know he wants a car?? and even if he knows he wants a car, he would never know a bentley is sicker than a honda??? |
How stupid are you? If Chinese can't leave the country, can only watch things the government allows them, and no foreigners can enter in order to tell them or show them certain things, HOW WILL THEY EVEN KNOW IT EXISTS?! Communism does not tell you to go for your dreams, it tells you to know your place and stay there. If not for foreign influence and expat investors, capitalism would never have made its way into the hearts of the government here and spread through China.
Good or bad, it's plain as day.
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| do you just spit words out of your a$$?? |
HURR HURR, look how eloquent you are... HURR HURR!
Seriously, you're a moron.
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| They can't even leave the country without asking permission of the government you tool! Most are DENIED! |
that was how the communism system worked. its not the same freedom as a western country. i have no problem admitting that.
even if some ppl could obtain a passport to leave china, its virtually impossible to get a western country visa to actually go there.
BUT all the above HAS NOTHING TO DO with your argument.
with the country developing, when its more realistic for chinese citizens to actually travel aboard. the government let them. how the f0ck does that have anything to do with expats??
are you just dying to take any credits??? |
It has EVERYTHING to do with my argument. If the people can't leave the country and foreign influence can't come in via expats, how would the people know anything? Expats are here, people saw what could be achieved, what kind of life they could lead if they had some money. People dared to dream about a better life than just whatever the government told them to do. That's why there's even a middle class here beyond just the corrupt politicians and the people they know.
It's amazing to me how ignorant you are of China's culture and heritage. Not to mention everything else under the sun. |
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fWerrF
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Nov 04, 2009 - 01:51 PM |
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| How stupid are you? If Chinese can't leave the country, can only watch things the government allows them, and no foreigners can enter in order to tell them or show them certain things, HOW WILL THEY EVEN KNOW IT EXISTS?! |
WHAT THE F0CK are you talking about?? do you just make all this sh1t up???
Chinese could leave the country. my father left the country in late 60's for several years. i would like to think he is so special but he is not, many others did too. my cousins left in the late 70's for school, i left china in early 80's.
and china is not north korea or afghan, chinese ppl could watch TV back then. programs might be very limited, they did not show any tits and a$$, they did not show anything talked bad about communism, but they did show programs where you can see this thing on 4 wheels called a CAR.
without expats chinese won't know what a car is??
u f0cking moron. no, actually ur f0cking crazy. |
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Marakanis
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They were allowed to leave because the government felt a foreign influence would be good for them... Listen to what you are saying. By definition you are a foreign influenced person bringing back expat ideas to China (albeit warped, narrowminded, nationalistic ones).
If you think China doesn't need expats or foreign influence to succeed, why did you leave? Why did your father leave?
I'm not crazy, I'm just smarter than you and that can appear like insanity to a sad and pathetic person who can't see beyond their own nose like yourself. |
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peterber
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China joined the community of nations through free trade and communications 20-30 years ago. And I say great - the world is a better place for it. Arguing about the nuts and bolts of this event is rather silly as it is all intertwined into one large global economic machine of give and take. Everyone wins. (Read Adam Smith if you don't get it)
China embraced foreign money to grow - DUH - as do the largest international debtor nations - the US and the UK - everytime they sell T-bills and/or Gilts and direct investment.
China opened up to foreign brands - DUH - as do everyone else in the world.
In regards to some of the "peasant" like rude behavior here in Shanghai, I will take that any day over the crime and drug ridden council estates and project/slums in the UK and the US.
I am enthused to be here to see China embrace the world while maintaining some of their old culture thus adding something very new and unique to the world community. Go China!  |
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fWerrF
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| They were allowed to leave because the government felt a foreign influence would be good for them... |
you said before they were not allowed to leave the country.
now you are saying they were.
exactly which way is it?
pick one and STICK to it.
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| If you think China doesn't need expats or foreign influence to succeed |
you are putting words in my mouth, and you again has changed your arguement.
your point was not foreign influence can help china.
your point was without foreign influence chinese will not know what automobile is.
remember that??
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| I'm not crazy, I'm just smarter than you and that can appear like insanity to a sad and pathetic person who can't see beyond their own nose like yourself. |
well thats what u think.
and there is another saying "crazy ppl do not know they are crazy" |
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Marakanis
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China joined the community of nations through free trade and communications 20-30 years ago. And I say great - the world is a better place for it. Arguing about the nuts and bolts of this event is rather silly as it is all intertwined into one large global economic machine of give and take. Everyone wins. (Read Adam Smith if you don't get it)
China embraced foreign money to grow - DUH - as do the largest international debtor nations - the US and the UK - everytime they sell T-bills and/or Gilts and direct investment.
China opened up to foreign brands - DUH - as do everyone else in the world. |
Yeah, duh. What would any economy be without a foreign influence? Likely dying...
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| In regards to some of the "peasant" like rude behavior here in Shanghai, I will take that any day over the crime and drug ridden council estates and project/slums in the UK and the US. |
Uhh, yeah... That's like comparing Shanghai to Harlem. Hardly a fair comparison. Shanghai and Beijing are supposed to be pinnacles of what China can achieve, but what is Shanghai without a foreign influence? Not much...
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| I am enthused to be here to see China embrace the world while maintaining some of their old culture thus adding something very new and unique to the world community. Go China! |
I find that ironic given the Chinese government's willingness to destroy old structures and building to make way for new malls and skyscrapers. |
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peterber
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China joined the community of nations through free trade and communications 20-30 years ago. And I say great - the world is a better place for it. Arguing about the nuts and bolts of this event is rather silly as it is all intertwined into one large global economic machine of give and take. Everyone wins. (Read Adam Smith if you don't get it)
China embraced foreign money to grow - DUH - as do the largest international debtor nations - the US and the UK - everytime they sell T-bills and/or Gilts and direct investment.
China opened up to foreign brands - DUH - as do everyone else in the world. |
Yeah, duh. What would any economy be without a foreign influence? Likely dying...
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| In regards to some of the "peasant" like rude behavior here in Shanghai, I will take that any day over the crime and drug ridden council estates and project/slums in the UK and the US. |
Uhh, yeah... That's like comparing Shanghai to Harlem. Hardly a fair comparison. Shanghai and Beijing are supposed to be pinnacles of what China can achieve, but what is Shanghai without a foreign influence? Not much...
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| I am enthused to be here to see China embrace the world while maintaining some of their old culture thus adding something very new and unique to the world community. Go China! |
I find that ironic given the Chinese government's willingness to destroy old structures and building to make way for new malls and skyscrapers. |
@Marikanis - dude-man, learn how to think in shades of grey - The world isn't just black and white...will make you a happier fella  |
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Marakanis
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Nov 04, 2009 - 02:27 PM |
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| They were allowed to leave because the government felt a foreign influence would be good for them... |
you said before they were not allowed to leave the country.
now you are saying they were.
exactly which way is it?
pick one and STICK to it. |
No, it's BOTH you idiot. MOST citizens cannot leave. Some are allowed to leave for a few days or a week. Even fewer are allowed to leave for a year or more. Many who leave become U.S. citizens because otherwise they would have had to return to China. Guess what happens when those Chinese come back here... They're expats. =D
Are you a U.S. citizen?
Here's some information about China restricting migration.
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Through most of China's history, strict controls prevented large numbers of people from leaving the country. In modern times, however, periodically some have been allowed to leave for various reasons. For example, in the early 1960s, about 100,000 people were allowed to enter Hong Kong. In the late 1970s, vigilance against illegal migration to Hong Kong was again relaxed. Perhaps as many as 200,000 reached Hong Kong in 1979, but in 1980 authorities on both sides resumed concerted efforts to reduce the flow.
More liberalized emigration policies enacted in the 1980s facilitated the legal departure of increasing numbers of Chinese who joined their overseas Chinese relatives and friends. The Four Modernizations program, which required Chinese students and scholars, particularly scientists, to be able to attend foreign education and research institutions, brought about increased contact with the outside world, particularly the industrialized nations. Thus, as China moved toward the twenty-first century, the diverse resources and immense population that it had committed to a comprehensive process of modernization became ever more important. |
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| If you think China doesn't need expats or foreign influence to succeed |
you are putting words in my mouth, and you again has changed your arguement.
your point was not foreign influence can help china.
your point was without foreign influence chinese will not know what automobile is.
remember that?? |
No, I said they wouldn't know they wanted one. It's still true. If it weren't for foreign influence, the only thing that would be on TV would be period pieces on the 3 kingdoms era and nationalistic news talking about how great China is... =P |
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Marakanis
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Nov 04, 2009 - 02:28 PM |
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@Marikanis - dude-man, learn how to think in shades of grey - The world isn't just black and white...will make you a happier fella |
Dude, I'm well aware of that fact... Tell that to queefboy. |
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peterber
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@Marikanis - dude-man, learn how to think in shades of grey - The world isn't just black and white...will make you a happier fella |
Dude, I'm well aware of that fact... Tell that to queefboy. |
heh agree |
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fWerrF
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| No, it's BOTH you idiot. |
it can NOT be both, you f0cking fool.
you said "no chinese can leave china".
if there was 1 chinese left china, your statement is false already.
and it IS false, no matter how you spin it.
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| No, I said they wouldn't know they wanted one. It's still true. If it weren't for foreign influence, the only thing that would be on TV would be period pieces on the 3 kingdoms era and nationalistic news talking about how great China is... =P |
you can not prove that.
its your opinion, an extremely stupid one. but you talk like its a proven fact. |
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why so many things and doings that foreigners can't accept," it's because no matter how much civilization we bring, you still piss and **** in the streets and spit all over the place, pick your nose and wipe the boogers on yourself, toss trash into the middle of the road, take a crap and then not even wash your hands before cooking a meal, and don't even give it a second thought. . |
Please define: civilization and we.
Do you know how this world is **** up in the name of civilization? |
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fWerrF
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Nope, my point was without expat influence those things would not be here, and you never proved me wrong. You have no links of those things being able to get here without foreign influence
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and have you proved me wrong??
you have no links of those things NOT being able to get here without foreign influence. correct?
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North Korea has a different culture and a completely different people. It is not relevant to this conversation about China and has no bearing on my points.
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if china really closed itself up. at the worst it would be just like north korea, except its a much bigger place.
so if north korea can have cars and beer. china will do.
give it up already loser.
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Hey dumfuk... WHAT FOODS DO CHINESE EAT?! If they can't leave the country... WHAT COUNTRY'S CUSINES WOULD THEY HAVE TRIED?!
None, there would be none. Nothing but Chinese food. |
i proved you wrong already. chinese COULD leave the country.
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And if you're too stupid to understand that (which we already know you are), you're too stupid to understand this. Chinese who leave the country, the only time they come back is if they want to try and "change China and make it a better place by bringing in the things they learned from a FOREIGN country." Foreign influence, expat influence... Got it?
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man u really think you know it all, do you???
"change China and make it a better place by bringing in the things they learned from a FOREIGN country" is the only time oversea chinese go back?????
you think too highly of them. most of chinese are selfish.
i know plenty of oversea chinese, who go back to china for the sole reason that they made money and they prefer to live in china. |
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And that's why I no longer have to say anything at all. Thanks zoo... |
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Marakanis
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Joined: Jan 11, 2009
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Nov 04, 2009 - 04:13 PM |
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i know plenty of oversea chinese, who go back to china for the sole reason that they made money and they prefer to live in china. |
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zoolander
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Joined: July 01, 2008
Posts: 175
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Nov 04, 2009 - 04:17 PM |
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i dare all of you to asked that to all the chinese that with out Foreigners china will be nothing.. and lets see whats there reply will be.. good luck... |
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Chrisse
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Joined: Feb 25, 2009
Posts: 1146
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Nov 04, 2009 - 04:49 PM |
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if china really closed itself up. at the worst it would be just like north korea, except its a much bigger place.
so if north korea can have cars and beer. china will do.
give it up already loser. |
Okay, now you have used the example of North Korea one too many a time, it actually works more in Marakanis favor. First of all, as I have already said, North Korea sees more and more foreign involvement every passing year. They are now even starting to try out similar things to the Chinese Special Economic Zones, they need foreign investment.
Beers in North Korea... hm... they do have imported (foreign influence...) but now since the beginning of this century they have Taedonggang which is brewed in NK. This brewery is however (every single piece) brought over from the UK, it is the old Ushers Beer Brewery that was in use for over 180 years. Now if that is not foreign influence then I would be damned.
All the technology for building cars that the North Koreans have come from either Europe, China or Russia. |
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ziccawei
Post Roaster
Joined: Sep 12, 2008
Posts: 4556
Location: Ziccawei
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Nov 04, 2009 - 05:05 PM |
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I hate these Chinese people that leave China and then try to tell me that they are American or Australian or whatever. NO you ain't **** American, you're Chinese and always will be.
So quick to turn their back on their country. Why? |
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binky
Reacher
Joined: June 06, 2009
Posts: 291
Location: JinShan, Shanghai
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Nov 04, 2009 - 05:13 PM |
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Hang on! My Grandma was born in the "Old Country" and she died believing she was "American." 
If I decided to call myself "Chinese" I'd get more than a few funny looks. |
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