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Iceberg
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Oct 21, 2009 - 08:10 PM |
 
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hahaha chinese woman so easy hahaha. |
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Ykai
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Joined: Sep 14, 2009
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Location: Shanghai
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Nov 02, 2009 - 04:36 PM |
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I loved Taipei when I lived there but some of the stories told in this thread are extremely unfamiliar. The 'meiyou' is still fairly common and yes, everyone will give you directions, but half the time they are wrong because they prefer to lie to you than to tell you that they don't know. Loss of face is still a big thing and in some ways, the Taiwanese are a people less honest than the mainlanders, because at least here there is less pretense. Taiwanese are quite arrogant especially in issues related to the mainland and many consider China a massive cesspool full of farmers. Then there was this comment about metro trains being virtually empty - I don't know when and where you took the metro, but it certainly wasn't anywhere in Taipei during normal times. Yeah it's less crowded than here but that's not very hard.
And polite service? Polite, sure. Service, not so much.
Anyway, once you get out of Taipei and especially down to the east coast, the beauty of Taiwan and its people becomes quite apparent. |
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OZDave
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Joined: July 04, 2008
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Nov 10, 2009 - 08:53 PM |
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Agree on Japan... very civilised.
Don't agree that Taiwan is a better place to be than China.
I've been going there for 7 years now on and off and am always glad to leave.
We have a great office there full of fantastic people... but that's about all I can say for it. |
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Kiwi
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Joined: May 07, 2003
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Nov 11, 2009 - 01:23 PM |
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| What? Kiwi hasn't come on to go on and on about how great Taiwan is yet?! |
Only just noticed this thread.
Anyway, OZdave is wrong about Taiwan. In fact I wonder if he even went there.
Maybe he got withdrawal symptoms because he couldn't buy cat-on-a-stick? |
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Marakanis
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Joined: Jan 11, 2009
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Nov 11, 2009 - 04:52 PM |
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Yeah, I was going to say... He must live in a particularly bad area of Taiwan or something if he thinks Shanghai is a treat by comparison. |
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hammerup
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Joined: Nov 14, 2009
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Nov 14, 2009 - 03:53 PM |
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By reading these posts one would not make a connection with the word "loser" until you see the time of these posts. 4 o'cock in the morning. What a popular guy! |
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tihZ_hO
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Joined: Feb 17, 2004
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Location: Shanghai / Jakarta
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Nov 14, 2009 - 05:39 PM |
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^ Uh they might not be in China or they set-up the SHEXP to another timezone. I (as well as others) are often working to all hours in the morning because of the home office working time.
Either way it doesn't change that fact that Shanghai is not all that is is cracked up to be. Take away the expensive buildings and pretty lights and what do you have? Not very much is it? Kind of hollow is what one person said to me, no soul. |
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Marakanis
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Joined: Jan 11, 2009
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Nov 14, 2009 - 10:03 PM |
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No Seoul... lol...
Anyways, yeah there is an empty feeling in China. Like you're visiting a facade. Even the tourist locations have it. It's like no one, not even the people working at the place, believe in or care about anything that's there. Whereas in Taiwan there's a deeply reverential feeling when you go to the temples and tourist areas exuded by the locals and visitors. |
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tihZ_hO
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Joined: Feb 17, 2004
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Location: Shanghai / Jakarta
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Nov 14, 2009 - 11:45 PM |
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No Seoul... lol...
Anyways, yeah there is an empty feeling in China. Like you're visiting a facade. Even the tourist locations have it. It's like no one, not even the people working at the place, believe in or care about anything that's there. Whereas in Taiwan there's a deeply reverential feeling when you go to the temples and tourist areas exuded by the locals and visitors. |
That's it, a façade and we are seeing it right now coming up to the Expo. Fresh cheap paint over the old cheap paint.
Here's an idea, good quality materials in the first place and maintenance. The Olympic Bird Nest stadium has rust and paint is peeling.
"China has no respect for athletics and preserving the Olympic spirit. It was all about the money and the spotlight."
http://www.weldreality.com/bird%27s%20nest%20welds.htm
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/117901-big-chinese-stadium-bigger-c hinese-headache |
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OZDave
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Nov 16, 2009 - 07:30 AM |
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Wrong's a bit harsh Kiwi- it's just my opinion.
If you like the place good for you.
I've been there 20 or 30 times over many years and am not a fan.
It's ok, but I much prefer Shanghai. |
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fWerrF
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Joined: Aug 31, 2009
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Location: New York, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Bangkok
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Nov 17, 2009 - 10:54 AM |
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You only saw 2 white ppl during a whole week??
Are you sure that was taiwan you went to? or did you get out at all??? |
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cidcid
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Joined: May 14, 2009
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Nov 21, 2009 - 12:11 PM |
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| It's always amusing to see the Chinese worked up into an incoherent frenzy when foreigners criticise their country and steal their women. |
Mutually interesting to see stupid people moaning the same thing again and again without making a change in his/her life... Speechless. |
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missjane
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Joined: Nov 22, 2006
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Nov 21, 2009 - 10:04 PM |
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| In Japan they hand out tissues in the streets for FREE with little advertisments on them. I had more tissues than I knew what to do with. |
yup...that often comes with pics of pretty girls who want to earn some pocket money.... |
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missjane
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Nov 21, 2009 - 10:09 PM |
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what taiwan did, if i remember correctly, was to place the rubbish bins every 5 meters....so people would take the "extra effort" to throw the trash to where they belong....and they gradually reduced the number of rubbish bins and made the habit out of the people...
shanghai is using the school teaching method, hoping to achieve the same goal. we'll see whether it'll work soon |
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Marakanis
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Joined: Jan 11, 2009
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Nov 22, 2009 - 01:02 AM |
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You only saw 2 white ppl during a whole week??
Are you sure that was taiwan you went to? or did you get out at all??? |
I was out every damn day in the nasty sweltering heat for a week. Only saw 2 white people, both in Taipei. |
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Marakanis
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Nov 22, 2009 - 01:04 AM |
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| In Japan they hand out tissues in the streets for FREE with little advertisments on them. I had more tissues than I knew what to do with. |
yup...that often comes with pics of pretty girls who want to earn some pocket money.... |
Hah, that would have been WAY more interesting than the ones I got. They were bank advertisements, a Sega World advertisement and a phone advertisement. |
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