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yu888 - May 18, 2007 - 11:37 AM
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Well, as my son is now newly in Shanghai, I guess my parenting gene has kicked in again and so i am looking at water filters for drinking water and bathing water and have almost made a decision so now i move to air filters.

I am aware of the IQ air units sold by Viall Lifestyles which basically do everything IO need but not being on an expat packagge makes the price tag a little higher than I would like. Anyone else have any recommendations one that they are using and like? Pros/ cons? Comments welcome, thanks.

8lrr8 - May 18, 2007 - 02:01 PM
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it may not necessarily be a good idea to raise your kid in as clean of an environment as u want. reason being once he gets out into the real world (i.e. outside of the protective shell that is your home), he may develop hypersensitivity to everything in the air. food for thought.

yu888 - May 18, 2007 - 04:09 PM
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i realise that and of course he will have plenty of exposure to the "real world" as he will be outside the house for half the day. But wouldnt it be nice to have time in a cleaner environment where your body can clean out all the stuff you breathed in?

Anyhow, a particulate matter filter is my main goal since I dont belive my place has too many chemical contaminants anymore, having lived there for a few years already.

So air filter recommendations anyone?

8lrr8 - May 18, 2007 - 04:23 PM
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yu888 wrote:

So air filter recommendations anyone?

sorry, cant help. however a few more comments for your consideration:

i take it your goal is to provide him a clean home and ultimately to encourage a healthy lifestyle. in reference to air filters, i assume u worry about the crap that gets into his lungs in particular.

u should make sure he starts off w/ a superior diet and continues it thru his adult life. two areas of particular interest would be the ingestion of antioxidants and lots of cardio exercise. this will help him infinitely more than any air filter will, even one constructed by Allah.

liubei23 - May 18, 2007 - 04:31 PM
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IQ Air is probably the best brand available in Shanghai, they are quite expensive however. Whatever you do, you want to make sure you get a HEPA filter and not rely on a ionizer.

lioralourie - May 18, 2007 - 04:42 PM
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hey I know of a Shanghai Mamas yahoo group who completed a successful co-op and got the maximum discount available (15%). That's no small sum, given the cost of the units.

This was a couple of months ago. If you approach the Shanghai Mamas, or the newly formed Shanghai Cafe (restricted membership, for Expats only) yahoo groups, you're almost certain to get a few friends together on a co-op purchase.

If I'm recalling correctly, all together you need 12 units to get the 15% discount. (3 units--5%, 7 units, 8%, or something like that.) Contact Leroy at Villa Lifestyles to get the details.

Shanghai Mamas is in the yahoo directory, with open enrollment. If you want into the Shanghai Cafe people need to find a friend who is a member, and get yourself invited as it is a private, restricted membership.

lioralourie - May 18, 2007 - 04:47 PM
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oh right, the beauty of the IQ air is that it essentially is a fantastic ultra fine HEPA filter with very very sound construction. Plus there is activated charcoal to remove certain chemical gases in the air. We got one Healthpro 250 (the best all around model) and one GC MultiGas specifically to add extra protection against very very tiny molecules of volatile chemicals (that constantly exude from walls after remodeling, particle board furniture, car fumes from outside, etc.)

The problem with regular hepa filters is that not only do they not control like activated charcoal, the air is actually allowed to flow around the filter''s edges and so it never reaches zero particles in the output air.

One IQ air in your home will do more than 10 YADUs, seriously.

yu888 - May 18, 2007 - 06:01 PM
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Thanks LioraLourie, I have heard lots about the IQ air from Villa Lifestyles, but unfortunately for us our current budget, not being on a package and all restricts us from considering it at this point...even if you last comparason about Yadu's is true...sadly. Nonetheless, i apprecaite the first hand information and know that it will help other readers of this thread. And yes, Leroy is the Manager of Villa Lifestyles here in Shanghai so for more details, contact him.

liubei23 - May 24, 2007 - 08:06 PM
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That is understandable, IQ Air is very expensive. I personally use a Yadu, and the design seems reasonably effective, plus their cost will allow you to get one for each room if you so desire. If you want to get a foreign brand, there are Honeywell's that go for around the same cost as Yadu on Chinese auction sites and possible some stores.

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currychook - May 28, 2007 - 01:19 PM
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So which stores sell these air filters^ what is the estimated outlay?
If anyone is leaving and wants to sell second hand, I'll be happy to check it out.

Lappen - May 28, 2007 - 02:01 PM
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What is the price of the HEPA filters at Villa Lifestyles. Phone?

CanadaKen21 - May 28, 2007 - 04:33 PM
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I am looking for the pleated filters that would go over the air return vents to remove the dust particles from the air as the air conditioning system circulates the air back through the system. Very common in north america, probably manufactured in china, but haven't seen them here anywhere including B&Q, local hardware stores, etc.. Can anyone help.

canuckyyz - May 28, 2007 - 09:22 PM
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Interesting claim from www.yadu.com/eng/index.htm for KJ130:

"The indoor air pollution is 2 to 5 times higher than that of the outdoor. People spend more than 80% of their life time inside houses, so their health conditions are very much effected by the indoor air quality (IAQ)."

I have 2 Yadu KJ130s and will be selling them for about 50% of the purchase price before I depart from China near the end of this year.

The Air Pollution Index (API) was about 169 (Alert level 3B) in Shanghai on 2007-05-26.

Robtcb - May 29, 2007 - 02:36 PM
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The IQ Air filters were pretty pricey (4 figures in USD), but they certainly made my wife feel better, regardless of whether they work or not.

Smile

For the Filtrete filters...I know some people....if they are sold in China I'll post some locations to look for them at.

Robtcb - May 29, 2007 - 03:01 PM
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Update: those filters pictured above not available in China yet. Sorry
Check with your USA friends, maybe some will bring them over in their luggage.

yu888 - May 29, 2007 - 03:07 PM
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wow, must be nice to have central heat and air with return ducts...thouggh probably a bit priocey on power consumption too i imagine.

jeannie5 - Aug 31, 2007 - 10:03 AM
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hi yu888,
u got your air filter already?i bought the brand 'YADU' when i lived in beijing last time,one of the cheapest in town,maybe it's local brand but it's good as it acts as an humidifier too. I can't really use it here and shanghai is too humid in summer..but it will be useful too in the winters. u can order them online...try www.aiyingshi.com or www.leyou.com,think they can deliver free to your home

CaptainCook - Dec 03, 2007 - 06:44 PM
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Yu888, did you come up with an solution to your Air Filter problem? I am interested in having one for my place as well.

jenming - Dec 06, 2007 - 11:00 AM
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I, too, am interested. If you find a reasonable brand, and can benefit from a group buy, let me know.

currychook - Dec 06, 2007 - 01:02 PM
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I use Filtrete by 3M.- available in most supermarkets in Singapore. i did see them once in Carrefour, they might have stopped stocking it. Lasts abt two months, altho they advocate changing it once a month.
I once saw an ionizer/ air filter for sale (Honeywell) in HOLA.

yu888 - Dec 06, 2007 - 01:13 PM
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Brands i have seen in teh local market so far:

IQ Air - 4 models - imported and sold by Villa Lifestyles. Very pricey but everyon that has it swears by them.

Yadu- best known local brand of Air quality conditioners including filters and humidifiers. They have a variety of filters including HEPA, Ionizers and Chemical filters (ie Formaldahyde) Sold by a variety of electronics appliance stores and online.

Phillips - has a couple models available in China. Seems to be an Ionizer. SOld at Yolo, also seen on Chinese site (TaoBao)

HoneyWell- sold locally at HOLA, several electronics appliance stores, and sometimes Carrefour. HEPA filters.

Other brands seen at HOLA but none looked tooa ttractive so don't remember what else they had.

CaptainCook - Dec 12, 2007 - 04:28 PM
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After discussion and shopping at Yolo with Yu888 last weekend, I've decided to go with Yadu KJF2801S from Taobao. It has one year warranty from Yadu and all the filters and chemical with it. Saved about 30% in Taobao but needed help from colleage at work to get it. I've asked, no group discount... sorry "jenming".

yu888 - Dec 12, 2007 - 05:46 PM
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and to give a bit more details, the one CaptainCook opted to order retails at 4400rmb or so in the stores here in Shanghai. It has a HEPA filter system as well as a humidifier and Fromaldahyde filter option where water and a chemical are added to teh process to absorb Fromaldahyde fumes from the newly made furniture and paints and such in these newer apartments. Given that many good HEPA filters runs in the 2500rmb range, the deal is pretty good.

CaptainCook - Dec 13, 2007 - 10:18 AM
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Actually, the price is more like 40% off the RRP in the stores.
The only down side, which I am working on at the moment, is that it doesn't come with an English users guide. I am thinking of calling Yadu unless anyone else have a better idea.
Once delivered, I will PM the seller's info to whoever is interested.

CaptainCook - Dec 17, 2007 - 08:43 AM
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OK.... got it .... ran it for 3 days.... surprisingly the machine did not pick up too much Formaldahyde or dust particles... either we have a very clean apartment or I am not an expert with the machine yet (likely the later).
Called Yadu about an English Users Guide and they were very helpful, except that I still have not recieve the manual yet though I did managed to get a copy from a different source.
Supplier was good, machine delivered on time with proof of purchase (not receipt, 5% more for receipt) from a distribution company with date stamp for warrantee purpose.

EnnesX - Jan 22, 2008 - 11:00 AM
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Any update on the performance of the machine? I am spending chinese new year in the states and upon my return this will be a priority.

kuldaen - Jan 22, 2008 - 01:37 PM
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Since there is another thread started about this, I thought i'd repost my reply here:

Kuldaen wrote:

I have a lot of allergy problems with airborne dust and pollens etc. I recently bought an air filter which was mentioned by Captain Cook in the other thread and after about 2 weeks of operation I can tell you that it definitely has improved my air quality at home. The amount of airborne dust is basically zero now and whatever was setting off my allergies is gone from the air. The one I got also does humidification at the same time as the air filtering. I did have a lot of problems sleeping because of allergies and these have basically disappeared.

Now if only I could filter the rest of the air in Shanghai.

I have to add that I don't use the Formaldehyde and Ammonia filtering feature (because I don't think there's much in my apartment and also not sure how to operate it properly Very Happy

) I think having the HEPA filter is the major thing for me. I've been alternating it between my bedroom (when I sleep) and my living room during the day and had it on continuously the first week.

The machine I got was a Yadu KJF2801S. I got it from a taobao supplier and it was 40% les than the RRP on the yadu website

samuelo - Jan 23, 2008 - 06:45 PM
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The IQ Air machines sell in the US for less than half the price they retail for in China. Now even with the shipping and import tax I fail to see how I can not save money by ordering in the US and getting them to ship here. All I need to figure out is if I how can get it into China and what I need to do at this end.

yu888 - Jan 23, 2008 - 06:51 PM
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Negotiate for discounts first. if not, try your hand import route but bear in mind: Power conversion will be an issue you will need to deal with, and how that affects the warranty. After sale service as well should be considered.

samuelo - Jan 24, 2008 - 12:26 AM
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Thanks but I doubt that IQ Air will lower their prices by 40% which is what the saving is looking like from the US. As long as I use a power converter there shouldn't be a problem. I've never used US power voltage goods before so let me know if that's not the case. I am going to check with Villa Lifestyles on the after sales service but I guess as long as I pay them and buy filters they'll be happy to service the machine.

It's strange but Villa Lifestyles price is competitive with prices in UK and HK. But IQ Air's habit of appointing only 1 or a few dealers in every country (apart from US it seems) keeps the prices in those markets high. The US with multiple dealers is literally half the price of everywhere else.

Rezitator - Jan 24, 2008 - 09:49 PM
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I found once this advertisement here, I do not know whether the number still works. I gave up looking for such a filter. After I studied the Internet, I learned how complex it is to get rid of the real dangerous stuff (formaldehyde etc…).
The dust itself is not a too big problem for normal healthy people. My children grew up (from baby age) without any health problem. My daughter now 6 ½ was not one time longer than 2 days sick.

“…I am the Shanghai dealer for Austin Air (www.austinair.com), America'a best air purifier with a three year warranty. Please feel free to phone my office at 5059 0239 on Monday and I can tell you about our product and our Chinese New Years pricing. I have also posted more information in the Business forum of this website.

Thank you kindly,

W. Michael Goertzen…”

Super_Inggo - Jan 25, 2008 - 01:41 AM
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Better yet, if you can find a HEPA filter media here, you may just replace the current washable type filter of your split type air-con. However, it may overheat the blower as it needs more power to push through the filter media. The Filtrete by 3M is also good, but only provides about 25-30% efficiency as compared to the HEPA's 99.97%. It would be great if you have a centralized air-conditioning unit as you can install a 3 stage filtration system. Mr. Green

yu888 - June 03, 2008 - 02:16 AM
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Well I forgot about updating this until somone reminded me so here it is.

After looking atall the different filters, I determined that in our household here, we did not have a fromaldahyde issue as 1) the interior has had plenty of time to out gas, 2) any paint and remodelling was strictly spec'd by me and thus low/no VOC paints and adhesives were purchased by me to make sure, 3) all furniture in the house was custom built to specification in an export factory I used to export with and only one piece of furniture had any excessive amounts of adhesive I needed to be concerned about and that was now several years old and well outgassed.

Given this, I passed on the Yadu KJF2801S listed above and opted for 2 smaller units Yadu units. My primary concern was and is particulate matter in the house so I ended up woth two smaller cylidrical units, both Yadu branded. One KJG1201 and one KJ130-TGS. Both have exactly the same specs except one has a knob control while one has a push membrane pad control. Both are HEPA 90% filtration, run at 40w/hour, <55db noise, and have a flow of 120 cubic meter of air / hour which provides 2.6 airchanges in a 20sm room. ALso has Ionic function to help disinfect and attract dust.

The KJG1201 sells for 488rmb at Staples . Sells for 968 at Gome. We bought ours second hand from another Expat who got an IQ Air, for 300 total Smile

, and then ordered new filter replacements. End result has been quite good. Our home has been a safe haven for me as my allergies started up this year (guess the "greening of Shanghai" IS making a difference as there are more pollens in the air (as I am not allergic to dust)

yu888 - June 04, 2008 - 04:53 PM
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I also clean my AC unit filters regularly to maintain effectiveness there too. I do not have central AC inthis apt so its individual ones... a pain to clean but worth the effort.

januza - June 10, 2008 - 11:05 AM
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do you have central A/C yu888? We have at our complex and I have no idea how to clean the fliters and no clue where they are.

arg, never mind.. Im blind!! I just saw u dont have central A/C..

januza - June 10, 2008 - 11:11 AM
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Oh and do you know there Staples has their biggest shop? They have lots of small ones but they never have what I need in stock!

yu888 - June 10, 2008 - 11:47 AM
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RE: Staples- I just order and they deliver. i am kinda lazy like that. Smile

januza - June 10, 2008 - 12:09 PM
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Ok. I will have my assistant do that for me then Smile

Celso - Nov 21, 2008 - 02:22 PM
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yu888 so those machines you have - they work their anti-allergic magic in the bedroom? Think i have the same troubles as you with the pollen - lots of sneezing and a constant runny nose again

And so according to your experiences it would be better to buy several small units and place them in several room rather than the one big unit -

My appartment is a chinese 180sqm - probably 160 in real sqm - rooms that matter are my bedroom, the living room - although the living room is quite large (long and rectangular shaped) would a small unit be able to cover that from a corner position - no sockets or space in the middle of the room?

appreciate the help

yu888 - Nov 21, 2008 - 04:24 PM
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I leave my unit in teh bedroom on at all times and my room is never a pollen or dust haven. Even teh ayi mentioned our apartment has less dust than many she has had to work at. Two units does do the trick, even during autumn when i had the windows open a lot.

So yeah, base don my experience, having a filter in each room has been quite effective but I cannot compare it to getting a IQ Air or an Auin Air or the newest one i have seen in teh market is a Blue Air i think. As i have not used them, I cannot say if you get that much more noticeable effectiveness out of the better more costly machines. But I have friends that swear by the IQ air so, it is a personal choice as to which route to go. It was a no-brainer for me, ¥13,000 + ¥1800 per filter change for the IQ Air, versus the ¥300 I paid for 2 2nd hand machines + the ¥200 for new filters. hmmm, 13k vs 500??? Wink

New would still be 13,000 vs 1,400...

Anyhow, good luck.

yu888 - Nov 21, 2008 - 04:27 PM
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Oh a nice commentary on Clean air indoors is in this month's City Weekend on page 54, written by Kathy Lawn, one of the CW Parents and Kids editors.

emilylopez - Nov 21, 2008 - 06:14 PM
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My husband and I recently renovated our apartment (small, approx 100sqm) and decided to buy 2 air filters. One, a Honeywell we bought here in Shanghai at the Best Buy for our bedroom. The 2nd is the IQ Air GC series which is one of the best and even filters out formaldehyde (we were worried about it coming from the cabinets, paint, etc.) We went out the Villa Lifestyles to see their selection and then went online to see prices in the US. Villa Lifesyles basically doubles the US prices. So the GC series we bought was approx. $2000US in China and only $1000US in the states. We decided to order our IQ Air online in the US, have it shipped to the US and my husband brought it back with him on his last business trip. It's a HUGE savings, and worth the trouble. We were going to ask a friend who was going on a trip to US to bring it back for us, but in the end my husband had to go back for business so he was able to bring it back himself. It's quite easy - we checked it like baggage, it meets the weight restrictions and size restrictions. We had no problems at all. Coming into China was also easy - no customs issues. We just walked out with it. I would highly suggest going this route to avoid the high high cost of the IQ air in China. If you aren't going back to the US anytime soon, find a good friend who is and ask them to do you this favor. It's well worth it!!

california2shanghai - Dec 07, 2008 - 02:31 PM
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This is an old thread, but I wanted to add some information. Consumer Reports, an independent testing agency, rated different air filters in Dec 2007. Not all are available in Shanghai, but you could bring them back with you the next time you're overseas.

Prices are in US$ as per Consumer Reports, though they don't correspond at all to prices I found on Amazon.com. The list is in rank order from best to worst. The number in bold next to the price is the score CR gave the filter, a higher score is better.

I've seen IQAir doing a lot of advertising in Shanghai, I don't know specifically what they offer, but this list does not rank their Healthpro plus model as highly as many other models.

Whirlpool Whispure AP45030S $230 63.
Kenmore Progressive 83202 Whirlpool AP510303 $270 57.
Hunter Permalife 30547 $270 56.
Blueair 601 $600 46.
3M Ultra Slim Air Purifier FAP03-RS $200 45.
Honeywell Enviracaire 50250 $170 45.
Blueair 501 $500 44.
Hunter Quietflo 30401 $260 44.
Vornado 35 AQS35 $200 44.
Bionaire Galileo BAP1250-U $200 42.
Holmes HAP756 $140 41.
Holmes HAP726 $125 39.
Sharp Plasmacluster FP-P60CX $400 35.
Panasonic F-P20HU1 $100 35.
Holmes Harmony HAP422-U $85 34.
Atmosphere (Quixtar.com) Air Purifier $970 33.
Honeywell QuietClean HFD-120-Q $150 33.
TrueAir 04492 $130 32.
Winix PlasmaWave 5000 $300 32.
IQAir HealthPro Plus $800 32.
Austin Air HealthMate HM-400 $450 30.
Amcor AM130 $120 28.
Bionaire Permatech BAP1500 $150 27.
3M Ultra Slim FAP04-RC $300 26.
SoleusAir SA-150R $200 26.
Zojirushi PA-MTC14 $170 24.
Blueair Airpod $100 16.

bejo - Jan 02, 2009 - 02:06 PM
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yu888 wrote:

Oh a nice commentary on Clean air indoors is in this month's City Weekend on page 54, written by Kathy Lawn, one of the CW Parents and Kids editors.

Yu888: the writer wrote "you get what you pay for". Can you pls re-confirm that your yadu? I think I will be happy if the air can improve to 'reasonable' level. Should I buy yadu or bit more expensive brand (eg. blueair or panasonic). thanks for your info

bejo - Jan 02, 2009 - 02:09 PM
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bejo wrote:

yu888 wrote:

Oh a nice commentary on Clean air indoors is in this month's City Weekend on page 54, written by Kathy Lawn, one of the CW Parents and Kids editors.

correction: Can you pls re-confirm that your yadu is working as per your expectation?

yu888 - Jan 02, 2009 - 06:07 PM
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still working. Smile

And was really inexpensive... I suppose if I had spent for an IQ air, I'd believe it was doing x times better than the cheaper units too... but alas, I giot a basic Yadu and it does fine getting rid of dust and particulates and reducing alergic reactions and such at home.

bejo - Jan 02, 2009 - 09:09 PM
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thanks for your info.
I have few 'bitterness' with Chinese brands and I can't trust them anymore.
Just came back from Jing-An shopping center (not sure what is the exact name - above metro station) and I think I will buy Panasonic airfilter. At least I am sure that Japanese brand will not dissapoint me too much and reasonable price.
Anyway, find a good website:
http://www.allergyescape.com/air-purifiers.html

Gotham - Feb 04, 2009 - 12:47 AM
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Hi Emily Lopez,

I came across your post here and would like to seek your needed advice if not too much trouble..

My wife and I have been shopping around for an air purifier in Shanghai for the past few weeks. Due to we were in a rush to move into to our newly renovated home, we didn't do much homework and ended up purchasing a Panasonic purifier at Best Buy. It was not cheap. More importantly, we are not satisfy with it's performance. Since this purchase, I have been doing more researching and realized that IQAIR is the best purifier period.

Given we too have formaldehyde issues in our home, we are quite set on investing in the GC series for the same exact reason as you mentioned in your post.. but as you mentioned, the Villa Lifestyles prices are MUCH HIGHER than how much they go for in the US.

I spoke to their sales manager and asked them what is we bought one in the U.S. They said due to the voltage difference (US - 110V vs. CHINA - 220V), you would need to use a power converter.. But she said the converter will effect the performance and will damage the IQAIR.

Therefore, could you please share with me your experience with us whether this is true? And also if possible, can you please also let us know what kind of power converter we need to purchase, where, and how much..

I truly appreciate you taking the time. We definitely want to buy the IQAIR from the US instead of paying such a premium as long as the voltage difference and it's quality will not be compromised when using the converter.

THANKS!

RussianBear - Feb 04, 2009 - 01:12 AM
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Yu888, that about self made one ? One aquarium pump, one back left out and another one put in bottle with water. I guess it will work for clearing of air from dust, as minimum.

qingyinger - Feb 04, 2009 - 01:06 PM
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we can spply many kinds of air purifiers ,as we can a professional exportor .

We can offer many kinds of small home appliance with English Users guide.

yu888 - Feb 04, 2009 - 02:16 PM
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Over the CNY holidays, I accidentally blew a circuit breaker as I was trying to turn on my oven while i had WAY too many heaters running... anyhow, when it popped off, I had to turn everything off and have my bldg management reset the outside circuit (yes yes, I drew WAY too much power at one time) and when everything came on, I forgot to turn my filters back on. 2 days later, I was noticing a layer of dust in my place that I had not seen in a long time! I realised that the filters, which I usually leave running 24/7, were off and that was the reason this thin but noticable layer of dust had formed so quickly. I turned them back on, and cleaned house and voila, a week later, stil no new noticeable dust layer.

Kind of nice to get this kind of affirmation as to the effectiveness of having air filters versus not.

tihZ_hO - Mar 02, 2009 - 08:14 PM
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Unless you actually wear the air-purifier in China it is a waste of money.

fernvale - July 20, 2009 - 02:13 PM
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yu888, do u open the windows in your apartment? just wondering how effective the 2 machines would be if I air my apartment daily in the morning

yu888 - July 21, 2009 - 04:06 AM
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tihZ_hO wrote:

Unless you actually wear the air-purifier in China it is a waste of money.

Other than the post being a great excuse to post some pretty pics of masked men, i disagree... having air filters in the house allows your body to clean out some fo the garbage before you again head back out into the jungle.

Fernvale- I do open the windows regularly (more often when the temps & humidity allow for it) to change out the air and it puts a bigger strain on the filters, but it is definitely noticeable and still well worth the investment. By the time you are sleeping in teh evenig, the filters should have done a pretty good job and will allow you to sleep in much cleaner air than outside air.

BritishDame - July 21, 2009 - 02:18 PM
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I posted in another section concerning indoor air pollution and what you can do about it with your family. Due to my son's allergies and the general air quality outdoors and indoors in Shanghai we have tried everything from HEPA filters to Ionic fans. Although we still use a HEPA filter, we dumped the ion fan due to negative press. We did find a product through one of my relatives call WellnessLight Kids. It is a PCO CFL that has been exceptional. It has been a great additional to the HEPA filter in improving the general air quality. There is a lot of positive information about PCO technology and H1N1.

On a side note, we also used a product called The Ionic Breeze when we lived in Hong Kong. I suggest if anyone has one they put it out on the street for trash collection.

MadMen - July 21, 2009 - 03:12 PM
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BritishDame, do you know if wellnesslightkids.com will ship to Shanghai or Hong Kong? On their shipping page, I see a USD $6.95 shipping charge for continental US address only.

Thanks.

2shanghai - July 21, 2009 - 10:17 PM
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Any opinions on 'going natural' and using houseplants (e.g. spider plants, vines) for natural air filtration)? I would think that they would certainly compliment air filters but wouldn't get rid of as much of the particulate.

yu888 - July 22, 2009 - 01:07 AM
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^given that what is in the dust is a big part of what can be harmful to our health, i would say plannts ONLY as a complimentary part of your filtering and otherwise ,not counting the naturally occurring nitrogen-oxygen thing, they do nothing more than add more surface area to collect a bit more dust Wink

BritishDame - July 22, 2009 - 05:24 AM
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MadMen wrote:

BritishDame, do you know if wellnesslightkids.com will ship to Shanghai or Hong Kong? On their shipping page, I see a USD $6.95 shipping charge for continental US address only.

Thanks.

I know my husband's associates in Bangkok had several packages shipped to their home from the website. So I believe they will ship to Shanghai. I honestly don't know - sorry Sad

There is an email contact on their website. Perhaps you may want to email them. I don't know if anyone stocks the lights in Shanghai, but that might be a question to ask too. Hey, if no one is selling it here ... anyone want to go into business importing these into Shanghai with me! Smile

I am 100% sure they work and there surely is a need here. Hmmmm.

Although, I must also agree ... house plants are a nice addition to cleaning the air and look great, the problem is with the air quality in Shanghai to protect your tots, you need pull out all the stops. Speaking of that I need to start my day very early today. Let me know what happens MadMan. Cheers!

BritishDame - July 22, 2009 - 05:29 AM
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yu888 wrote:

I found a very informative website on what house plants work best for air cleaning. http://www.care2.com/greenliving/top-ten-houseplants-for-cleaner-air.html

Also, Yu888 - LUV the pic of you and your boy. very cute! Smile

I was trying to put one up of myself and my children, however, I need to adjust the size corectly. Cheers!

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