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Relocation and Moving - Pudong or Puxi ?

bright_tone - June 19, 2007 - 02:47 PM
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Hi,
just need a few feedback before deciding to live in Pudong or Puxi. I got to work on both side of the city. One at Zhang Jiang and one at Jing An area.

Would like to live in the area little more quiet and along metro line 2. Any advise ? I already saw both location at both side, very convenient along metro line. Now just final decision on east or west.

Thanks in advance

CanadaKen21 - June 19, 2007 - 02:52 PM
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Kids and family, Pudong! No kids, restaurants and nightlife, Puxi!! As for quiet, the honking has been reduced significantly since the new law was passed!!!

LPPL2007 - June 19, 2007 - 03:07 PM
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definitely zhangjiang.

bright_tone - June 19, 2007 - 03:11 PM
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Pudong seems little more quiet...... No family.....
Good to have less noise pollution.

Any reason Zhangjiang is good ?

LPPL2007 - June 19, 2007 - 03:15 PM
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zhangjiang has no pollution whether it be air or noise. in fact zhangjiang has no one.

Juan_Tamad - June 19, 2007 - 03:19 PM
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How much is the rent of a one bedroom flat in Zhang Jiang?
I was out this noon ang was looking at a shitty 3,500 RMB 1 bed room flat in jing an (shaanxi lu / xinzha lu).

profkim - June 19, 2007 - 03:21 PM
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The Century Park area is a much nicer region of Pudong (Zhangjiang is just a high tech manufacturing region - like a corporate park).

LPPL2007 - June 19, 2007 - 03:25 PM
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u can get a 160 sq m 3 storey townhouse in zhangjiang's tomson for cny8000 (offer). i think for cny3000 u can get a 100 sq m apartment near the subway station. century park is no doubt nice but there is pollution and also it is much more expensive than zhangjiang!

bright_tone - June 19, 2007 - 03:44 PM
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The apt I saw is in Century part was not bad. 3 bedroom ,walking distance to metro market, metro station, B&Q and to the park. 3 bedroom full furnished at 6,500.

bryan79 - June 19, 2007 - 04:00 PM
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century park is good, or century ave. both are close enough to puxi, and are not far from zhangjiang.

LPPL2007 - June 19, 2007 - 04:10 PM
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how much is the bond?

mrpango - June 19, 2007 - 04:12 PM
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There are two ways of being charged the deposit: Either its 1 month's rent as deposit, followed by rent paid every 3 months, or 3 months rent as deposit and pay every month

I live in the Century Park area, (not in a flashy big apartment complex though - we don't even have a lift), and we paid 1 month's rent as deposit, and pay quarterly.

Swiss-James - June 19, 2007 - 04:19 PM
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I'm a horrendous Puxi snob- living in Jing-An as opposed to some soulless community on the 'dark side' adds about 20 mins travel time onto my commute, but there's no way I'd live East of the river.

LPPL2007 - June 19, 2007 - 04:21 PM
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i would move to puxi if i can afford the bond

bright_tone - June 19, 2007 - 04:24 PM
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ok, Thanks guys for your input. Reassure that live in Pudong will be nice and can always stay later after worked at Puxi for dinner or drink.

msittig - June 19, 2007 - 04:29 PM
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Our situation is the same as mrpango's: liftless, nondescript apartment in Century Park, 5 minutes to the subway, 1 month deposit + quarterly rent. Huamu is a quaint little community, within striking distance of Carrefour and a bus ride away from both the Dongchang Rd commercial area and Lujiazui.

Still, we're moving back to Puxi when our kid gets a little older.

It's hard for me to fathom why anybody would live in Zhangjiang, and even more why the pollution would be worse in Century Park. When I ride the bus home past the giant fabs and factories in Zhangjiang I see steam (mixed with who-knows-what) rising from the sewer grates along the road, and occasionally pass through clouds of god-awful smells along well-traveled Guoshoujing Rd.

bright_tone - June 19, 2007 - 04:55 PM
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When I mean pollution means is the noise pollution...... Not the air..... Nothing much you can do about specially in SH. But I think Pudong in general cleaner than Puxi isn't .

bright_tone - June 19, 2007 - 04:56 PM
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I can be insomnia with the noise......

LPPL2007 - June 19, 2007 - 05:10 PM
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zhangjiang has no noise. especially around the tomson area

captah - June 19, 2007 - 05:20 PM
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puxi any day.. and Zhongshan park or Honqiao are the areas to be in !!

bright_tone - June 19, 2007 - 05:30 PM
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any good place to buy a bicycle ? so can ride around the park over the weekend .

guel27 - June 19, 2007 - 07:35 PM
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decathlon.

millerman - June 19, 2007 - 09:40 PM
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count yourself really lucky that both your work situations are conveniently on Line 2 (therefore no nightmarish People Square transfer). i think your commute either way will be less than half and hour on the train going either direction, or if you live in century park or lu jia zui - even closer.
agree with the other posters
young family - pudong
young single/no kids - puxi

gluck! =)

cubfan - June 19, 2007 - 10:40 PM
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My family (wife and 2 kids under 2) and I are moving to SH in Sept. We have read everything we can find (including lots on this site) on where to live and we visited for a few days to check out some places and we still can't decide on the big pudong vs. puxi question.

The general answer is: you like your kids, live in pudong; you like restaurants and interesting places etc. live in puxi.
Well what if you like both? Are we choosing between making ourselves happy and our kids happy? Granted we'll probably all be fine either place but I'd like to make the "best" decision anyway.

So what I want are the counterexamples: Who lives in Puxi (we're looking in the XinTianDi area, where my office is) with their kids and loves it? Maybe near a great park with lots of other kids around? Great kindergarten nearby?

Who lives in Pudong (we're looking at Lujiazui or maybe Century Park) and still enjoys everything Puxi has to offer? And just how long is the commute from those areas using Metro, to XinTianDi area (requiring transfer at People's Square)?

Can it be done???

msittig - June 19, 2007 - 11:20 PM
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I think the case could be made for living in Puxi with kids but it'd be hard to live in Pudong and still take full advantage of what Puxi has to offer. I intend to raise my kids in Puxi, and I think yu888 would back me up on that (even though we're both still pretty new dads).

jeffry3 - June 19, 2007 - 11:20 PM
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one word of advice : make sure your apt surrounding there are no building construction currently undergoing....I myself awaken this morning at 6am by the sound of construction worker starting their daily job!

LaVecchiaSignora - June 20, 2007 - 10:17 AM
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Or friggin dogs. Got to find me a way to get rid of those damn animals barking from 4am till the time I leave my home for work!

mrpango - June 20, 2007 - 11:17 AM
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I lived in Puxi when I first arrived in Shanghai - I'm single (well, engaged) but not with any kids naturally. Moved to Pudong shortly after because I didn't like the noise, and also the non-fresh air. Couldn't get a good night's sleep in Puxi.

I work in the Puxi area, so when I finish work and head back to the apartment at night, it really feels like going 'home'. Fresher air, calm and peaceful, and a really good night's sleep. For the occasional night-trip in town, taxi costs 40 RMB back home so its not so bad Smile

Juan_Tamad - June 20, 2007 - 11:34 AM
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Any idea for a decent furnished 1 bedroom in a good area in Pudong?

mrpango - June 20, 2007 - 11:41 AM
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1 bed apartments are usually priced a bit higher as they are quite in demand. My fiancee found quite a few nice places (in the modern complexes) for around 2500-3000 RMB per month.

In our place, its just a local residence area, so costs only 2000. I have heard there are even cheaper prices around 1700-1800 RMB per month in similar buildings.

- this is around 5 mins walk away from either long yang road / century park metro stations

profkim - June 20, 2007 - 11:59 AM
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Would you say the difference (between Puxi and Pudong) is like that of Manhattan metro vs. Long Island suburbia?

koalaki - June 20, 2007 - 12:01 PM
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Pudong is definitely better. Reason being: less pollution, shopping is as easy as in puxi. If you look at Shanghai map, the distance from downtown (xintiandi) to Century Ave Metro station is actually less than the distance from downtown to some of the parts in puxi, of coz same goes for the travelling time.

Therefore, consider puxi if u wanna get trapped in the endless traffic jam.

Juan_Tamad - June 20, 2007 - 12:08 PM
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What nice complexes would have 2500 to 3000 RMB 1 bedroom flats?

dek2711 - June 20, 2007 - 01:46 PM
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1BHK apmts in wang bang complex opp the maglev and the station costs around 3000.Century park the rent gts higher.

bright_tone - June 20, 2007 - 01:55 PM
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how about any decent restaurant for Chinese and western food in Century park area or Zhangjiang ?
In Jingan area too close to Plaza 66...... ?

mrpango - June 20, 2007 - 03:40 PM
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There are quite a few decent Chinese restaurants down the road near the Maglev station - also, around 5 mins by taxi, or roughly half hour by foot, you get to Thumb Plaza which has a Carrefour and some western restaurants.

dek2711 - June 20, 2007 - 04:04 PM
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hey if u like chinese food thn there is a food street opp wang bang....it seems very popular.From century park to Thumb plaza its jst minimum fare my cab.there is pizza hut,papa johns,moon river and many more places to dine.

Faguonin - June 20, 2007 - 04:24 PM
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I was depressed as hell when living in Pudong...

+50 rmb taxi fare from downtown bars to my place. (no subway after 11pm)

Never again. I am young and engjoy nightlife

But it's true Pudong is quiet...too quiet for me. I live in Zhongshan area now. New life ! Very Happy

Artefact - June 20, 2007 - 04:52 PM
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Zhongshan that's something else! you might miss pudong...

Artefact - June 20, 2007 - 04:52 PM
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Zhongshan that's something else! you might miss pudong...

mrpango - June 20, 2007 - 05:18 PM
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I wish they had a night bus from nanjing xi lu to century park. That would be such a life saver!

I really don't miss actually living in Puxi at all - Health over having-lots-of-nights-out-in-a-bar-with-convenience any day Smile

Only 25 myself, but guess I'm just happy the way I am, partied too much during uni Razz

Faguonin - June 21, 2007 - 03:24 AM
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Artefact wrote:

Zhongshan that's something else! you might miss pudong...

The ONLY thing i might miss is quiet nights...

What else could i miss in pudong...nothing...there's nothing. Maybe cheap rent and some good restaurants i used to go.

Swiss-James - June 21, 2007 - 01:10 PM
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mrpango wrote:

I really don't miss actually living in Puxi at all - Health over having-lots-of-nights-out-in-a-bar-with-convenience any day Smile

Only 25 myself, but guess I'm just happy the way I am, partied too much during uni Razz

Get out.

Just...get....out

p1atl10 - June 21, 2007 - 01:20 PM
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25 and partied out?

Pitiful!

Faguonin - June 21, 2007 - 02:06 PM
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I think there a jealous girl behind this

Puxi is not only about party.

about 5 min walk around my place, i got:

3 massages place ("clean" ones)
2 banks
1 huge building with Carrefour, pizza hutt, various stors and so on
Subway Line 2,3,4

And i surely forgot some...

Me_Again - June 21, 2007 - 02:41 PM
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I live in Puxi and don't hear much noise at all 25+ floors up.

Pudong for family and Puxi for life. Personally I like being able to walk to most things in Puxi.

dek2711 - June 21, 2007 - 03:07 PM
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I dont knw wht ppl lik abt puxi so much...narrow roads,crowded and dirty.Night life...yes it is much better...but does every1 party 7 days a week?????cuz its ok to take a cab on the weekend to puxi for 30 RMB.And pls....we do have massage parlours and carrefour and pizza hut...and beautiful apmts too... Cool

Of course the rent might be a bit more...but its worth every penny!!!

Adrienne - June 24, 2007 - 09:36 PM
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Personally, I think that if your office is in the Xin Tian Di area then you should be on the Puxi side. Xin Tian Di is on metro line one so if you lived in Pudong you would have to get a taxi to People's Square subway, take a train to Pudong then get a taxi home.

You will find that you work inordinarily long hours here compared to back home so a quick commute home is ideal.

There is a kindergarten at Sommerset Grand which is close to Xin Tian Di and there is a park and lake there too.

There are a number of expatriate apartments in that area that have families so your kids would have friends to play with. There's also a good City Shopper foreign goods supermarket in the basement in Times Square so shopping is handy too.

Hope this helps.........but in the end it's your choice:)

Adrienne
Shanghai Properties
http://www.shanghaiprops.com

redsneef - June 26, 2007 - 12:51 AM
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We're moving in August to Shanghai and this has been an area we're still deep in research. I think though we're leaning more towards the Puxi area. We're moving from central Toronto--for those who know it's the St. Clair/Dufferin area--which is not quite downtown however a 10 minute walk down the street and we'll be downtown. We love our neighbourhood for the "classic Toronto" feel--We just have to turn the corner and we have well over 20 family owned mulit-cultural restaurants that cater to anything our taste buds desire. We also love that there are schools around us, parks galore and the neighbourhoods are settled. I was working out in the 'burbs' of Toronto and my partner was working downtown yet we chose not to live in the burbs--and this for me is what Pudong seems like--that urban sprawl that is Mississauga or Markham. Manufactured neighbourhoods. I think Puxi appears more settled, diverse and while it is 'dirtier' it's Shanghai. We also have a child and I cant help but feel I would be letting her down if I was to live in the 'burbs'.

Correct me if I'm wrong but this is how I see it--I suppose we'll find out if our feelings are the same when we actually arrive.

Georgie - June 26, 2007 - 08:56 AM
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Faguonin wrote:

WOW..... and 5 mins from my place in Jinqiao I have:

2 supermarkets (Carrefour and Pines)
Endless chinese restaurants
The Flying Fox (fab)
5 or 6 massage places (clean)
Post Office and Banks
Specialised Bike Store
Decathlon
Megafit Sports Centre
Shopping Centre with small shops
Bars (with no bar girls pestering us), restaurants (Italian, Japanese, Tapas etc, Pizza Hut (although who goes there!)), coffee shops
Century Park (10 mins)
A line of local shops selling fruit and veg, DVD, pet store etc.

AND safer roads for cycling and walking, cleaner air etc... and I can still get to Puxi cheaply when I want to.

Will never live in Puxi especially having small children - its dirty, polluted, congested and unsafe.. why would I want to do that to them.

jo_girl - June 26, 2007 - 09:14 AM
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Really have a think before u settle down in Century Park. Sure, it is a nice and fairly clean and quiet area, close to Carrefour and quite convenient.. But it is also very far from things! I lived there for 6 months, and enjoyed it OK, but in the end I was so fed up with catching the metro and doing that annoying change at (always crowded) people square, as well as having to pay an expensive taxi ride every time I missed the last metro home.
I find Puxi to be more enjoyable in terms of things going on, and living at Century park proved to be annoying a lot of times when someone called and asked if I wanted to grab a quick bite somewhere (like in the french concession), and I knew it would take me maybe 45 min to get there, and then 45 min home.... I moved after 6 months and now live in the french concession, which I like so much better! I don't find the FC noisy or overwhelming. Pollution is everywhere, and I can still go and visit Pudong when I have an errand there. But overall I find life on the west side more convenient.

msittig - June 26, 2007 - 11:12 AM
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redsneef, we're living in Pudong while our daughter is small because of the location of my school, but we're definitely moving back to Puxi for exactly the reason you mention: there's so much "flavor" you lose by living in steril, remote Pudong. I expect that in a couple years I'll be writing pretty much what jo_girl wrote above.

still_here - June 26, 2007 - 11:26 AM
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Ditto. Puxi offers u more of "realistic" Shanghai than Pudong could ever hope to achieve.
My take on this is just this: I am in Pudong right now (Century Park) and it just feels like another concrete jungle. Can't wait 2 shift 2 Puxi (although my office is in Pudong). If u r a people person and love 2 live in a place like the locals-its Puxi els Pudong.
Anyways, with the amount of smoking i indulge in, pollution in Puxi would seem like a natural draft of fresh air Laughing

amig - June 26, 2007 - 01:30 PM
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If you have schooling kids, the suburb areas of Qingpu is the best place to stay in Puxi. Now that the A5 highway has opened, Hong Qiao-Gubei-Hong Mei Lu area is 10 mins away.

btbt - June 26, 2007 - 02:04 PM
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been here few years now and I still prefer to stay at Pudong. It just suit my own lifestyle, can ride bike easily and go to Jin qiao, Thumb plaza. If need to party will be in Puxi...... Now Superbrand mall have a few place cam grab a drink too like blue frog etc.......

bright_tone - June 26, 2007 - 03:02 PM
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Just signed for a year in Century park area first. Can always move again after a while. Need to get to know more about the city. For the moment seems like will be base in Zhangjiang and only once or twice a week be in Puxi Jing An.

Thanks for all your answers...... This is very good place to source info about living in Shanghai......

kimball06now - June 27, 2007 - 01:43 PM
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Hypothetical scenario:
Single straight male; early 40s; likely relocating from a major northeast US city; currently would not live in the 'burbs in the States; office will be on Dongfang Road in Pudong (or in Singapore?); won't party as I would have 10-15 years ago, but will definitely look for a variety of restaurants (quality and multi-ethnic diversity, not including Pizza Hut) and likely have a few drinks a night or so a week (clients or friends); still I work hard and will appreciate getting a decent night's sleep weeknights...love my nieces and nephews yet wouldn't love it if they (or especially someone else's kids) woke me early on weekend morning...

To Pudong, or to Puxi? Why?

Alternatively, to Shanghai, or to Singapore?

Thanks for any insightful thoughts.

horsemandk - June 28, 2007 - 08:33 AM
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I live in Pudong, right next to Century park (10 min walk to the metro station) and we have a 160 sqm apartment paying 6.500,- RMB. The apartment is 2 years old and in a very nice compound called Xiang Mei Garden, lots of green area for the kids to play around inside the compound. Metro, Carrefour, foreign restaurants etc. are located within 20,- RMB taxi ride.

p1atl10 - June 28, 2007 - 11:20 AM
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I have lived in both Singapore and Shanghai.
Singapore....
- Think Disneyworld. Shopping Land. Amusement Land. Industry Land.
Safe, clean, quiet, controlled. (I got a ticket for not having a license for mr car radio)
Good food, excellent infrastructure, english speaking taxi's

Shanghai
- Think food fight in the elementary school lunchroom
Noise, pollution, mayhem, little process...
Still good food, nightlife.

I lived in Singapore for three years. Shanghai (Puxi) now for a little over two.

Depends on your temperment. If you want to live in Disneyworld, live in Singapore. If you want to live in Asia, live in Shanghai.

Me? Hands down...Shanghai. Hands down...Puxi.

yingying236 - June 28, 2007 - 04:45 PM
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i have an apartment in Puxi and a room in Pudong... pudong Zhangjiang actually as thats where i study and that place makes me want to commit suicide.. there is **** all to do... i come into puxi as much as possible. However im really young, no family here, and want to go out as much as possible.

CanadaKen21 - June 30, 2007 - 12:20 AM
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Hey Cubfan, big question, with kids that age is do you have a driver? If so you can live anywhere! If not, travelling with kids that age in a cab can at times resemble a pinball machine. Keep it convenient where every you decide! Get working on a good Ayi also as with kids that age I think your wife is going to love the conveniences and lifestyle that Shanghai has to offer. Go Braves, this Buds for u!!!!

Animeisco - June 30, 2007 - 04:38 AM
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Apparently, Hongqiao is a good place to raise kids...

cubfan - July 02, 2007 - 11:51 PM
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CanadaKen, we don't expect we'll have a car. Would that be a problem in Lujiazui (given that we're going to minimize the times we have our kids bouncing around the back of a cab)?

CanadaKen21 - July 03, 2007 - 04:30 AM
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Just for appointments or anytime you are taking kids anywhere as yours are quite small, it could be a problem. Not for your kids acting up, but rather the haphazard approach many taxi drivers have here. My youngest has "only" smacked his head off of the partion once and have had to tell drivers more than once to cool it!! I have talked with other couples that because of concerns in transporting "small/infant" children and lack of seatbelts in taxis, that their employers "HAVE" made concessions in providing a vehicle on a part-time basis in these cases.

If you are able to find a good Ayi so everyday tasks like shopping, groceries can be deligated to her or if Ayi can watch the two kids while your spouse handles without kids in tow would be much easier.

I take it you have reviewed a number of the what to bring threads and know to bring lots of OTC medications that the young ones would need while you are in Shanghai, those things are very hard to locate, and having a small box in your closet will have your mind at ease and promise you will come in handy at somepoint!!

Michael - Sep 21, 2007 - 05:48 PM
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Ongoing questions.. food options improved in PuDong Recently?

jeannie5 - Sep 21, 2007 - 06:09 PM
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definitely pudong==lu jiazhui by the river...u have best of both worlds..quietness and near to work yet near to puxi for wild nightlife and gorgeous food!try the cheapest way to & fro...the ferry

aquimini - Sep 22, 2007 - 12:22 AM
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Jinqiao which is in Pudong is like a paradise. I've been to both worlds. Puxi and Pudong. My advice is move to Puxi first. Eventually you are gonna party out, get tired of the noise and enless crowds, super long bank lines and then long for Pudong. It happens to eveyone. You can easily get to parties and events with 100 Yuan round trip from here.

Jinqiao is just fabulous. Clean air and TREES, GRASS and the people in Jinqiao seem nicer. No one is arguing or fighting. During the day you have all the markets to yourself. The "Flying Fox" with out dirtiness of Puxi. I'm pretty sure that Jinqiao is the future. Also its an expat community so most people speak english if you ever just get tired of speaking Chinese.

CoffeeHawk_0 - Sep 22, 2007 - 09:02 AM
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Ongoing questions.. food options improved in PuDong Recently?

Super Brand Mall has added a Blue Frog and a Hooters in the last year.
Early next year when the new Shanghai Financial building opens, there should be a few more upscale restaurants to choose from, there is also a new HOng KOng Plaze being built next to it (between it and Super Brand Mall), so food choices and congestion should climb dramatically.
2 blocks behind BaBaiBan is a new food Mall, 5 floors of mostly Asian cuisine, and a cigar/wine bar. The Korean restaurant on the top floor is nice.

Bad news for Puxi: I saw yesterday that Papa Schnitzel has closed down. It was 2~3 blocks behind PLaza66, with nice garden seating.

CoffeeHawk_0 - Sep 22, 2007 - 09:03 AM
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I am thinking about relocating to Puxi this month after 2 years of Pudong river life.

prcshcom - Sep 22, 2007 - 11:06 AM
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Animeisco wrote:

Apparently, Hongqiao is a good place to raise kids...

Every time I go to Gubei/Hongqiao area, I can't concentrate or enjoy the surroundings becuase of the air pollution. I can literally taste petro in my mouth. Just awful. Overhead bridges, traffic congestions, and construction sites, Puxi isn't my cup of tea, and I realized choosing Pudong over Puxi was a right decision. Work in Jingan and party couple times a week in Puxi, but feels so right/relax at home. Live near Thumb Plaza and no kids now. But even if we have kids, we'll move to Jinqiao.

CoffeeHawk_0 - Sep 22, 2007 - 12:31 PM
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^you're giving me 2nd thoughs about Puxi Sad

, thanks for your input on my other thread.

DesertSpider - Nov 25, 2007 - 02:17 PM
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Georgie wrote:

Faguonin wrote:

And i surely forgot some...

You make a strong argument...

Ottomatic - Nov 25, 2007 - 03:05 PM
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Herro!
similar situation here-company is moving me from Beijing to Shanghai. Office is in Pudong near Zhongrong Plaza for what that's worth.
I have no idea about commute times or geography in SHA. I have a limited time to poke around the area before I get a place. Puxi? Pudong? absolutely no idea
Single, mid 30's-right now I live in the CBD area in Beijing-would like a comparable atmosphere-any suggestions?

DesertSpider - Nov 25, 2007 - 03:28 PM
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I've lived in Pudong (Ba Bai Ban area & Century Park) for the last 14 months... looking at the Puxi side with great interest, but with big reservations as well. I like the clean air over here and the 'smaller' crowds.

Really looking at the move in terms of what do I stand to benefit by moving to Puxi that I currently lack....

And, what do I stand to sacrifice (trade off) for the conveniences.

Hmmmmmmm and the debate rages on.

Swiss-James - Nov 25, 2007 - 05:06 PM
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Puxi is a lot less dirty and crowded when you live here and know where you're going (and how to get there).

If you're going to live in Shanghai, then live in Shanghai- not some suburb with a tourist geegaw and a shopping mall full of chain restaurants.

mod5 - Nov 26, 2007 - 10:11 AM
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The dichotomy lives on.

p1atl10 - Nov 26, 2007 - 10:59 AM
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I live and work in Puxi, but am in Pudong to visit our technical center at least once a week when I am in town. Not a lot of exposure, but IMHO....

2 years ago Pudong was a clean quiet alternative to Puxi.....
Now? Not so sure. My sense is that a lot of the pollution is vehicle related, and as of late I do not see much of a difference in the traffic on either side of the river....unless you are way out in the sticks.

I am with Swiss James on this one....Live in Shanghai, Live in Puxi.

20 minutes walk from my place, I can go anywhere from extremely local noodle shop, to a high end laowai, shop in the wet market and LianHua, or buy my vittles at City Market.

travelinjack3 - Nov 26, 2007 - 11:57 AM
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It is pretty simple. If you value going out several nights a week then live in Puxi (especially if you work there).

If you hate a long commute and work in Pudong then live in Pudong.

petra - Feb 03, 2008 - 11:57 PM
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It's nice to see so much input.... though a long time agoo, maybe some new ideas ?? i am very interested especially for our two teenagers? go for the air and schools in jinqiao ore will they be to bored there, so live in Puxi
It's very important for them to socialize!

msittig - Feb 04, 2008 - 01:08 AM
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If they're teenagers, do them a favor and live near their school.

Swiss-James - Feb 04, 2008 - 11:53 AM
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yeah my boss's kids go to school in JinQiao and he lives there. Works well for him and the kids seem to really enjoy it.

canuckyyz - Feb 04, 2008 - 01:30 PM
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My office is in Puxi (Nanjing Xi Lu) not far from the Shanghai Centre, Portman, Malones, etc, but I chose to live in Pudong Lujiazhui for the following reasons:

- I have a a view of the river, Jinmao, Pearl Tower, ...

- I can step out of my apartment and walk around the area without being overwhelmed by a mass of humanity. (I was born and raised in blue sky country.) It is nice to go over and have a walk beside the river.

- The air is less polluted in Pudong judging by my experiences at leaving a window open in the office and leaving a window open at home.

- The drive to work takes only 16 to 25 minutes and home takes 25 to 35 minutes.

- City Supermarket and Lotus (Superbrand Mall) are within walking distance, along with a heap of bars, restaurants, and cafes beside the river.

- There are many expats living in the same area.

DK

guest13 - Feb 04, 2008 - 07:25 PM
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exactly,pudong is so much better than puxi. we moved from puxi downtown to pudong century park area about half year ago,and i love it,especially for our two kids,i will never want to move back to puxi again.

Georgie wrote:

Faguonin wrote:

Havelock - Feb 28, 2008 - 12:07 PM
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If your office was in Pudong (AZIA Center...which I believe would be on Metro Line #2/Lujiazui stop) but you wanted to live in Puxi, would you recommend that you live somewhere close to Metro line #2 and avoid any potential transfers at People's Square?
We were considering the French Concession but that is when I thought I would be at our Puxi office. Can anyone recommend a good neighborhood along Metro line #2 that would keep my commute to a reasonable time?
Thanks!

msittig - Feb 28, 2008 - 01:13 PM
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In terms of cost of living, Jing'an Temple > Zhongshan Park > Songhong Rd. I know the first two are good, I hear the third one is coming along.

L.M. - Feb 28, 2008 - 01:36 PM
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I am really confused as to what benefits Pudong can give a family with kids. The only thing I can think of is that 1.) Century Park is very large and quiet; and 2.) the Carrafour at Thumb Plaza (that statue looks like a guy masturbating by the way) is very convenient and pleasant to shop at.

sbergman - Mar 13, 2008 - 09:43 AM
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More space to run around (not just in Century park), wider sidewalks for strollers, scooters, etc., and generally less pushing. My kids think the air is cleaner over here and that they get pointed at less on this side of town. We go into Puxi most weekends and they get much more unwanted attention there. We've also enjoyed a lot of the kid-friendly activities on this side of town - ice skating at Super Brand Mall, the Science and Tech Museum, the Aquarium. But I suppose it's not a big deal to come over for that.

SnappySammy - Mar 14, 2008 - 05:32 AM
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I think Pudong is Vanilla Ice Cream and Puxi is Vanilla Chocolate and Strawberry. I like Puxi, but If I had young Children I would live in Pudong.

Now you also have my 2 cents worth

petra - Oct 28, 2008 - 05:51 PM
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Hi,
I,m the one who posted this question in feb.
We choose to live in Pudong, and we really like it.
Pudong feels more fresh and wider than Puxi. Its so crowded in puxi.
Our children go to school in minhang, its a long trip because of the traffic, about 45 min. , they go out in the weekend in puxi and i dont think its a problem. The subway is great en very quick. When we come home we are happy to find an relaxing place with lots of green and great facilities. (we live in greentown)

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