Shanghai Expat

Recreation and Nightlife - LEGIT sauna?

jenming - Dec 06, 2007 - 06:37 PM
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Hey,

hahah, i'm sure your joke about happy endings / prostitution are funny.

Looking for suggestions on good saunas and bath houses. I honestly just want a quality place which is clean, and has lots of good facilities. I'm taking a friend there.

I know of one on Fan Yu lu near Hong Qiao Lu (888 fan yu lu i think). I've also heard of Xiao Nan Guo on Hong Mei Lu having one?

kumlong - Dec 06, 2007 - 06:49 PM
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try taipan sauna (tel 63023466) where they offer a cny188 package of 1hr foot massage and 1hr body massage. the place is open by 'sei tai' (4th wife) of mr ho and the food is provided by lisboa cafe. v good but i think u cannot shower there.

John.Zhu - Dec 06, 2007 - 06:50 PM
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I haven't bee in such kind of places but it is heard that a club named JIYUAN Club(吉原会所) is a little bit famous in Jing'an District.
Hope it would be useful.

John.Zhu - Dec 06, 2007 - 06:58 PM
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sorry about the above message, I remember it well that sauna club is not the one you are after maybe. It takes around RMB 800 for the whole services, which is crazy for men.
Just for your information. Good luck.

kumlong - Dec 06, 2007 - 06:59 PM
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i love this guy

chingiskhan - Dec 06, 2007 - 07:03 PM
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John.Zhu wrote:

Thanks John. I am going to take some of your earlier advice on the other thread and try somewhere different because as you said, not all the expensive places are the best.

kumlong - Dec 06, 2007 - 07:09 PM
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excellent british sacarsm.

chingiskhan - Dec 06, 2007 - 07:21 PM
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I'm still not convinced sarcasm exists in Chinese culture because nobody I have met has ever realised when I am being sarcastic.

Great weather we're having today!

kappakai - Dec 06, 2007 - 10:20 PM
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xiao nan guo at hong mei lu is pretty good. vip showers; hot, cold, salt pools, saunas, massage area, recreational facilities, etc. all very clean. oh, and some free food from xiao nan guo, as well as ala carte.

last time i was there, i used the vip showers, got a foot massage, ears cleaned, nails done (shut it), cha bei, and my shoes shined for 400 kuai.

comradeA - Dec 07, 2007 - 06:02 AM
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I wish they had full-fledged saunas here like they do in ShenZhen... Great alternatives to hotels... Used to spend my off days there during the short term stint in ShenZhen...

Queen Spa was the biggest... all sorts of massages / rooms... head and foot massaged by 2 therapists at the same time while I watched TV and snack away... then to snooze freely after the massages... clean bathrooms... shower and backrub... all sorts of pools (which I didn't try)... facials and haircuts... in house restaurants...

I loved it... and it was very reasonably priced... 98 yuan entrance fee... spend 168 and get that waved... for any 24 hour period... no need to check out at noon...

I have been searching for something similar here in Shanghai... looked at the locals consumer review page and concluded there's nothing quite as good as Queen's Spa in ShenZhen, but Ri-Star JingAn CEO branch at 333 ChengDu North Road seems to be the best... in terms of facilities / ritziness / services... and most expensive...

Called to ask about prices... 198 yuan entrance fee waved after a 418 yuan 2hr massage... ONLY if you arrive after mid-night... 1hr of foot massage is 148 yuan... which is quite a bit more than the rest of the saunas in town...

Anyway... hope to try it out at some point before I go... If I do... will report...

KJ - Dec 07, 2007 - 08:08 AM
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kappakai wrote:

......ears cleaned, nails done (shut it), cha bei, and my shoes shined for 400 kuai.

LOL! Stop it stop it. You're killing me.

kumlong - Dec 07, 2007 - 09:03 AM
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Shanghai saunas are much more expensive than the ones in shenzhen. i used to spend a lot of time in shenzhen saunas (esp the one called lan kwai fong) and it was never more than cny220, with a 2hr back massage. great place

Kiwi - Dec 07, 2007 - 10:08 AM
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I don't get the big deal about 'legit' versus 'non-legit' saunas. Just go to an upscale sauna without getting a girl. Guys go to these places with their wives for goodness sake. Just don't ask for a girl if that's not what you are after.

kumlong - Dec 07, 2007 - 10:14 AM
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most non legit places have only female masseuse and u are charged for the services regardless of whether u use it or not ie its a flat cny800 rate whether u have a happy ending or not

lucar - Dec 07, 2007 - 10:46 AM
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Or you can just invite me and I'll protect you.

Kiwi - Dec 07, 2007 - 12:53 PM
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kumlong wrote:

most non legit places have only female masseuse and u are charged for the services regardless of whether u use it or not ie its a flat cny800 rate whether u have a happy ending or not

Absolute crap. . .

jenming - Dec 07, 2007 - 12:56 PM
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Kiwi wrote:

By asking for legit places, I was looking for upscale. I didn't want somebody pointing me to a place, I show up there, and whaddya know it's more a dingy brothel than anything else.

got any suggestions?

I would feel well-defended with luca on my side. I'll be he'd even wear a he-man suit for me.

chingiskhan - Dec 07, 2007 - 01:23 PM
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kumlong wrote:

most non legit places have only female masseuse and u are charged for the services regardless of whether u use it or not ie its a flat cny800 rate whether u have a happy ending or not

In my experience, the extra services are extra cost. If I don't have the extras, they do not charge the extra cost. For example, 200 for massage, 100 more if you want the happy ending at the place on Shaanxi Nan Rd just before it intersects with Zhao Jia Bang Rd.

fritobugger - Dec 07, 2007 - 01:23 PM
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He-man suit or as.sless chaps?

kumlong - Dec 07, 2007 - 01:38 PM
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i think u have not been to one of those massage places that dont really offer massages. that is my definition of non legit. also most non legit places dont want you to waste their time on $200 massages. what they want is the big dodgy tickets.

also isnt it a bit stupid of you to walk into a non legit place and asking for a legit massage? its like going to a chinese restaurant and ordering curry.

kumlong - Dec 07, 2007 - 01:43 PM
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oh come to think of it u are a gwai lo. so even if they say something rude to you u wont understand. for us chinese, we have to bear with their grumbling and long faces.

Kiwi - Dec 07, 2007 - 01:50 PM
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I've still got a card here for a place called Clearwater Bay (清水湾). Even got a website www.clubclearwaterbay.com

It's on Kaixuan Rd., No 1495. Putuo district near the inner ring Rd.

They did good massage though not cheap. I think it was around 400 RMB per person for massage. Massage was by young girls who knew what they were doing and were also pretty talkative and funny. There were no extras or anything, and if that was available I assume it was with different girls and on a different level of the complex. It's got all the stuff you'd expect in terms of baths and all that, plus one of the floors is mixed sex and you can go there to get food or beers, use the gym, play pool or table tennis, watch a performance, etc. All in all pretty cool.

You could take your mother there no problems.

Kiwi - Dec 07, 2007 - 01:56 PM
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kumlong wrote:

The dodgy places don't try and charge 800 RMB unless they think you look like a dummy.

The places that really charge 800 RMB invariably have a whole range of services besides dodgy ones.

chingiskhan - Dec 07, 2007 - 01:57 PM
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kumlong wrote:

There are so many different types of places I guess we are not talking about the same thing. Many places are really legit places that just offer something extra if required. Other places are 100% non-legit and they can't even do any kind of massage.

There are places even have men and women customers. They STILL offer happy endings to guys if requested. So you CAN go for a good massage if that's all you want.

I'm not gwai lo, I'm Chinese by the way!

kumlong - Dec 07, 2007 - 02:11 PM
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ok point accepted. lets move back to topic. i would also love to know more legit places as i love a rub

bjandmegsabroad - Dec 07, 2007 - 02:23 PM
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I'm not sure where you guys all live, but in my part of town there's a massage parlour on every block that offer massages for any part of your body that you want. My gf and I tried out a few, finally found one that has a boss who trains his girls in reflexology and pressure points. Regardless, we haven't paid more than 50 RMB for a back massage. Right now our place is 30 RMB. They speak no English, and yeah, there's no incense or beautiful candles, and looks a bit seedy, but the staff is friendly and they do good work. I suggest you hit some smaller massage parlours.

jenming - Dec 07, 2007 - 03:04 PM
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I definitely agree, if what you're looking for is just a massage. There's a blindman near my house (and lots of them all over shanghai), where I pay about 45 per hour. Some of the guys don't know what they're doing, so it took a while to find the good ones, but now I know them personally, and can request the skilled guys.

But in a Sauna/Bath house, it's unlikely that you'll find a cheap massage.

BTW, a friend suggested this place on GuYang Lu, near Gubei Lu.

Quan Jin City
Changning District GuYang Lu, number 777

权金城国际养生馆
地址: 长宁区古羊路777号(古北名都城旁)

电话/phone: 021-64056558

Swiss-James - Dec 07, 2007 - 03:37 PM
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so if you want a legit massage Jenming, why is the sauna worth so much extra?

I'm curious to try myself if it's worth it- I go to one of those blind guy places every week.

chingiskhan - Dec 07, 2007 - 03:59 PM
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Saunas are more upmarket and have jacuzzi, good shower facilities, often free food, cigarettes etc so the cost is a bit more than just a plain vanilla massage place that often don't even have a shower.

jenming - Dec 07, 2007 - 05:08 PM
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Yeah, if I want a massage, I go to a massage place. If i want to be cleaner than I've ever been before... I go to a sauna. Perhaps some explanation is in order.

here's a general description (it obviously differs for each place):

They have a bathing area. You wash yourself off before you do any bathing. They have shampoo, soap, razors, toothbrushes, etc. depending on how nice the place is.

After you're clean, you can submit yourself to any number of types of bathing. Dry Sauna, Steam Room, Hot tub, Bubbling bath, REALLY SCALDING HOT bath, ICE COLD bath, whirlpool bath, Herb-infused bath, Milk bath, Waterfall, Rain room bath, pond with the littl fish that eat the dead skin of your body, wave pool, swimming pool... and much more (once again, depending on the place).

Then they have massage. Some of the massage is actually an exfoliation, where they scrape all the dead skin of your body. This can be very *intimate*.

It also may be Thai, Shiatsu, Oil, Korean, Hong Kong style massage.

After that, you can sit in a comfy big chair and watch TV, or movies, get food brought to you, get a facial, manicure/pedicure, haircut, get on the Internet, play cards, pool, table tennis, maybe even a gym.

Nice ones even have tatami rooms where you can just lie your relaxed butt down and SLEEP.

some or most of them have "extra services". At a nice one, it should be easy to avoid.

some of the services I mentioned above (like food and anything that requires some to specifically service you) will cost extra above the entrance fee. for a lot of these places, the entrance fee isn't that much (maybe 50-60 yuan), but the extra services can add up. In theory, you could just go in and out relatively cheaply.

So yeah, i'm not looking to take my friend for a massage... more looking to take him for a Water Park aimed at adults Smile

matmat - Dec 07, 2007 - 05:10 PM
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@ chingiskhan, I'm living close to Shanxi lu and never noticed a sauna there ... Can u tell me the address of the one you're talking about ?

Moreover, is it possible to go there just for a massage ? not for the happy ending.

chingiskhan - Dec 07, 2007 - 05:45 PM
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Funny I don't see how more specific I can be. It's at the END of Shaanxi Nan Road just before the intersection with Zhao Jia Bang Road, on the LEFT side of the road as you travel south. On the right is apartment buildings. There's only one there just before the road ends.

Of course you can have a massage without any funny business. It's about 200 rmb.

yu888 - Dec 07, 2007 - 05:57 PM
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东方罗马 was pretty good when they first
opened up, not been there for a few years, but when I did, it was pretty nice.
Nice hot showers, nice large soaking pools, multiple soaks including tea and herbal.
Games, food, shows, cardrooms, , TV, all there. And of course a variety of different styles of massage. These were services on the standard floor. Never ran across "extras" probably b/c i never asked, BUT there is a VIP floor so...who knows.

Was like 60rmb entry back then...probably should call ahead to check now.
Located north on JiangNing Rd just by the bridge over into ZhaBei from Jing An district past the old go-kart place.

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John.Zhu - Dec 07, 2007 - 06:13 PM
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chingiskhan wrote:

John.Zhu wrote:

Thanks John. I am going to take some of your earlier advice on the other thread and try somewhere different because as you said, not all the expensive places are the best.

Really appreciate your approval anyway. There are indeed many a thread in our hands, just catch the best one, man. Rolling Eyes

Swiss-James - Dec 07, 2007 - 06:16 PM
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ah- I used to go to places like this in Korea all the time- they call them JimJilBangs there, marvelous stuff.

The scrub down certainly does get intimate- to the level of the guy having to move bits out of the way to get to other bits. I've felt more clean, and at the same time, dirty.

John.Zhu - Dec 07, 2007 - 06:23 PM
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Just have one more wash again and again until you are totally exhausted, James?
Take care of your body and keep fit.

jenming - Dec 07, 2007 - 06:31 PM
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Swiss-James wrote:

The scrub down certainly does get intimate- to the level of the guy having to move bits out of the way to get to other bits. I've felt more clean, and at the same time, dirty.

, well put.

SnappySammy - Dec 20, 2007 - 02:23 AM
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White Swan Bathhouse in Puxi 3098 He Chuan RD

Xiao Nan Guo 021-62497705 www.gadling.com/2007/05/02/a-canadian-in-bejing-steamy-bathhouse-in-shanghai/.com

alaal - Feb 13, 2008 - 11:30 AM
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ok, so where is the best sauna to get all of the above????

SnappySammy - Feb 16, 2008 - 10:40 AM
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duh!

marco_polo - May 29, 2008 - 03:46 PM
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hello to all you current expats. i'm a former expat of taiwan coming to shanghai for a visit. i worked, taught english and studied mandarin for about 4 years in the early 90's. you guys gotta be loving it as much as i did.

all this talk of "non legit" message places is kind of amusing. on a trip to beijing in 1990 i remember a guy getting yanked out of my youth hostel at 6 in the morning for "sleeping with a chinese girl". the military guy sat on his bed and talked to me just to practice his english. it looks like things have loosened up in da lu.

anyway, i'd like to know if the jingan-west nanjing rd area is a good place to stay. i'm going to move around a bit but want a good place to get my sea legs.

as far as message places i'm sure i'll learn a lot when i get there. and since i'm single i'm not afraid to say i'd like an erotic message and anything else that comes my way. the west has a lot of hangups when it comes to sex does it not? i heard there are bars in that area where girls (professional) come up to you, is that true?

you guys and gals hang in there. you are living in a great time!

marco polo

Swiss-James - May 29, 2008 - 06:04 PM
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Marco Polo- in the JingAn area you could have a stroll down Tongren Lu area (south of Nanjing West). As long as you stay out of the Blue Frog, Woodstock, Red Beat and M-Zone(?) you are pretty much guarantted to be accosted by a working girl.

Still on Tongren Lu but north of Nanjing road there's a sauna opposite Malone's bar which I would strongly suspect will give you a massage with the works.

Not sure if the west has a big hangup about sex, so much as paying for sex. But each to their own.

marco_polo - May 30, 2008 - 12:21 AM
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thanks for the info swiss. are those bars you mentioned a little touristy? i read that the blue frog is a chain. also, i'm not trying to get duped by a he-she either. is that an issue in shanghai? it can't be as bad as thailand. i've seen many a drunk foreigner leave with someone they thought was a girl. Shocked

Swiss-James - May 30, 2008 - 11:00 AM
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I've heard that the he-she's cost more than the regular girls so wouldn't imagine one of them will try and pass themselves off as something cheaper.

Blue Frog is a chain, yep, and respectable too- that's why I warned you to stay out of it!

As for touristy / non-touristy- umm, aren't you trying to find a bar full of prostitutes?
I'm not sure whether that's ever going to overlap with a sophisticated ex-pat type of scene.

marco_polo - May 30, 2008 - 02:25 PM
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will the girl, or myself, get hassled when we go back to the hotel?

Swiss-James - May 30, 2008 - 03:49 PM
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I wouldn't have thought so, like you say it's not 1990 any more!

Plenty of my friends have brought girls back to their hotel room

kulturschok - June 17, 2008 - 04:59 PM
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*sound of humble pie hitting face*

Tycoon - June 27, 2008 - 08:10 PM
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So finally what are the better places and parts of town?

SnappySammy - July 11, 2008 - 09:08 PM
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SnappySammy wrote:

White Swan Bathhouse in Puxi 3098 He Chuan RD

Xiao Nan Guo 021-62497705 www.gadling.com/2007/05/02/a-canadian-in-bejing-steamy-bathhouse-in-shanghai/.com

try these..they are very upscale... you should get what you're looking for

wefrucar - Aug 22, 2008 - 09:48 AM
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In my experience, the more expensive the massage parlor, the MORE likely that it's not legit.

Stayed in a really posh hotel once in Hangzhou, wanted to go to the sauna with some friends (incl some female). When we went, we were informed that it was 100rmb each just to get in (plus extra for whatever "services" you wanted), but that women weren't allowed. Now why is that I wonder?
Another time I found a massage parlor that was charging 500 rmb (in a regular neighborhood, mind you, not in a fancy mall). I jokingly asked the greeter (bouncer?) "那么贵，是什么样的按摩?" He looked at me straight-faced and responded "sex massage!" (I think the best part was that when he said it, he raised his arms and waved them around like he was at a rave.)

40-50 kuai massages? Never once been "propositioned."

If you think about it, who in China can afford to go to expensive massage parlors? Business men... with a lot of tension to relieve (and not just in their shoulders).

The thing is, just because a sauna has "additional services" *available* doesn't mean it's not legit. If you don't want them - don't ask for them. If you get offered, politely decline. It's no biggie.

SnappySammy - Aug 26, 2008 - 09:32 PM
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The thing is, just because a sauna has "additional services" *available* doesn't mean it's not legit. . It's no biggie.[/quote]

I think that's like being a little bit pregnant...

Captain_SH - Nov 30, 2008 - 06:49 PM
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That Rome or Roma I forget all the way up North on near aumen lu and Jiangning lu is cool. And they have these sea turtles floating around in that aquarium. Go on a Sat night and see some Chinese stylee rock and roll while wearing your special "outfit" and getting a foot massage, and eating dumplings, and drinking your beer, and smoking lots of cigarettes.

Yummy . . .

SnappySammy - Dec 07, 2008 - 04:42 AM
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It that Yummy or Yumma

fox007 - Dec 07, 2008 - 08:14 AM
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I do not see the point to focus on 100% legit massages.

Girls will not rape you or even make an intense pressure on you to buy additionnal services, just say no thanks and that's it. My experience shows that it is not always in "100% legit places guaranteed " that you get the best massage !

SnappySammy - Dec 09, 2008 - 10:52 AM
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May I ask How Much Experience do you have.....and are there places 99 or 95% legit.... I think thats like being a little bit pregnant..

Shady_Slim - Dec 09, 2008 - 11:22 AM
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Captain_SH - Dec 23, 2008 - 10:04 AM
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Why all the fuss? Anytime where 2 ppl of the opposite sex are tossed into a private room for some time, there is always a possibility for fooling around.

Now you get one person to strip practically naked, the other person wearing a therapist's outfit, and add a lot of lubricants to the mix and things get interesting.

The deal maker however is the huge asymmetrical level of income between the person who is naked and the person who's got lots of oil in her hands.

It's a function of hormones, privacy, and economy. Quite simple really . . .

blondesands - Jan 21, 2009 - 01:40 PM
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Totally off the male hormones topic, where in SH, can a couple (man and woman) go to a sauna together? Not the ones where woman go one way and men the other, but where they can enjoy the sauna together? Are there any places like that here? If so, where?

SnappySammy - Jan 22, 2009 - 10:27 AM
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None that I have seen....

aznrurounikj - Mar 19, 2009 - 09:56 AM
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Dude.....you must not go out a lot or you stay sheltered with your expat community. How does sarcasm not exist in China? Either that or the only people you talk to locally are the granny's and grandpas

The one on PanYu Road is pretty decent. They've recently renovated it to make it a bit more high end though and I haven't been since then.

GrundleSmash - May 09, 2009 - 12:41 PM
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OK. I'm new to this happy ending business. A happy ending is generally achieved using what methods? Hand, mouth, birth canal, rectum or foot?

victorinchina - May 11, 2009 - 08:27 AM
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^ One of these...

buzzy - July 23, 2009 - 11:18 PM
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Tell a cab to take you to Club 999. Thank me later.

shuppy - Sep 10, 2009 - 08:24 PM
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@ buzzy can you give me the address for club 999 please?

shuppy - Sep 10, 2009 - 08:25 PM
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or anyone else that might know. thanks

SnappySammy - Oct 27, 2009 - 07:49 AM
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I'm not telling.....and it looks like nobody else is....

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