Shanghai Expat

Announcements of Events - THIRD ANNUAL SHANGHAI CHILI COOK-OFF
KJ - Sep 09, 2008 - 06:40 AM
Post subject: THIRD ANNUAL SHANGHAI CHILI COOK-OFF
Ladies, gentlemen, cooks, chefs......start your pots as Bubba’s THIRD ANNUAL Shanghai Chili Cook-off is on the calendar and coming together like a big bowl of spicy heaven. Co-sponsored by Party On Catering and ShanghaiExpat, proceeds from the cook-off will go toward assisting underprivileged children gain educations in Shanghai, with donations going to Shanghai Sunrise Charity.

The date for this year's cook-off is Saturday, October 11, from Noon to 5 p.m. (public entry). Teams can start registering now....the entry form is attached and contains all the details, rules, etc. Participation is open to the first 20 teams that sign up….and pay the 250 rmb entry fee. For those interested, I can also hook you up with some good choice meat through CZC PRIME meat company. E-mail me for contact details.

Also, we are starting our search for judges, so if you have an interest in this area please let me know. Mark Brown will again be head judge coordinator, following up on the great job he did last year.

Public entry into the event is 100 rmb, which gets you food and/or beverage tickets valued at 100 rmb, as well as the opportunity to taste (unlimited) all of the entries for this year’s contest. You also will get a chance to vote for your favorite chili.

Lonestar Wind will once again provide musical entertainment and the rest of the zaniness will be contributed by participating teams. We also will have children face painting and a jumpy castle onsite to keep the little ones entertained.

If you have any questions, please feel free to email me back.....i prefer emails....not PMs....kennethjoewalker@gmail.com.

KJ
GC - Sep 09, 2008 - 07:05 AM
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Ok, it's a chili cook-off, but why does it always have to be chili?
bougie - Sep 09, 2008 - 07:28 AM
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It would be just silly if a Chili cook off did not have Chili. What the hell are you taking about GC ?
KJ - Sep 09, 2008 - 07:30 AM
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yea....i'm just not sure how to answer that question.
GC - Sep 09, 2008 - 07:35 AM
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bougie wrote:
It would be just silly if a Chili cook off did not have Chili. What the hell are you taking about GC ?


Sorry, I forgot the French amongst us would not understand.

Why does the cook-off always have to involve chili?
KJ - Sep 09, 2008 - 07:40 AM
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....it's called a CHILI COOK-OFF. If it were called a pizza cook-off.....i guess that would involve pizza and not chili.
GC - Sep 09, 2008 - 07:50 AM
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So, why the **** chili? Why not pizza? Everything in Shanghai has a average shelf-life of 2-3 years.

Good luck!
bougie - Sep 09, 2008 - 08:01 AM
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How about a fish and chips cook-off Very Happy
p1atl10 - Sep 09, 2008 - 08:04 AM
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How about the non-Americans (Insert here GC) feck off and let us have our fun!
Very Happy

The Hagis cook-off can be scheduled later!
mat - Sep 09, 2008 - 09:16 AM
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haha.

This is the 2nd year in a row i am not here for it. As much as it is a yank tradition, i'm sure it would be quite fun as beer is undoubtably involved?
Michael - Sep 09, 2008 - 09:34 AM
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Why Chili? Because of the food of the fire gods! Because you can pick a pizza on just about any downtown corner, but the elusive bowl of decent chili is exceedingly rare in Shanghai and deserves its own day to gather the chili magicians in celebration.
E8L - Sep 09, 2008 - 10:50 AM
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Never been to one. Will there be people passing out and sent to hospital. Will there be People screaming "OMG it burns!!! its burns!!!". Rubbing chilli is the eyes context? A chilli so hot you will see steam/smoke coming out of the person?

Probably won't be going anyway, chilli irritates my stomach and sends me to the toilet making fire crackers! But i'll tell my indonesian freinds as they love chilli or anything thats spicey.
MahamYe - Sep 09, 2008 - 11:16 AM
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It was such fun last year with some incredible chili. wow! the only problem was that there was a huge turnout and the venue's space was really small. I had hoped to bring the kids along to a family-ish event, but we had to leave early since they were trampled lcause it was like People's Squre Metro during rush hour...Will it be at a bigger place this year? I'm sure there will be at least as many people and probably more?!?!

...but damn, there was some good chilli.
GiveEmOpium - Sep 09, 2008 - 11:56 AM
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I am soooooooooo there.
great idea guys


*mandatory*
http://springfield-shopper.de/php/epiguide/pics/3F24.jpg
travelinjack3 - Sep 09, 2008 - 12:26 PM
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Did the little scandinavian guy ever find the keys to his golf scooter?

Hopefully, the space problems will be solved. I recall KJ mentioning a new plan after last years plan was foiled by a neighbor.
GC - Sep 09, 2008 - 04:25 PM
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Michael wrote:
Why Chili? Because of the food of the fire gods! Because you can pick a pizza on just about any downtown corner, but the elusive bowl of decent chili is exceedingly rare in Shanghai and deserves its own day to gather the chili magicians in celebration.


There you are KJ, an example in marketing! Wink
mat - Sep 09, 2008 - 10:38 PM
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The 1st annual Haggis cook off, followed by the 1st annual vomit projectile competition, will be the end of November.

As an Aussie, mate, i'm sticking with the yanks on this one. Their food maybe crap, but at least it's not sheeps guts.
p1atl10 - Sep 09, 2008 - 11:55 PM
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Chili
Beer Boiled/Grilled Bratwurst
BBQ'ed Ribs
Corn on the Cob slathered with butter

Who says we have never contributed anything to the world?
p1atl10 - Sep 09, 2008 - 11:57 PM
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mat wrote:

As an Aussie, mate, i'm sticking with the yanks on this one. Their food maybe crap, but at least it's not sheeps guts.


Vegemite?
Marmalite? (or whatever the heck you call that stuff...)

And OUR food is crap?

Ha!
GC - Sep 10, 2008 - 04:59 AM
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p1atl10 wrote:
Chili
Beer Boiled/Grilled Bratwurst
BBQ'ed Ribs
Corn on the Cob slathered with butter

Who says we have never contributed anything to the world?


America invented Chili?
p1atl10 - Sep 10, 2008 - 07:07 AM
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^ Thought I would run that one up the flag pole and see if anyone saluted!

Very Happy Very Happy
GC - Sep 10, 2008 - 07:34 AM
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Believe me, I'm saluting with bells on!
p1atl10 - Sep 10, 2008 - 07:47 AM
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0745 in the morning....Not a mental image I needed before the second cup of coffee.
bougie - Sep 10, 2008 - 08:02 AM
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I think it was invented on NYC by the Italians immigrants
p1atl10 - Sep 10, 2008 - 09:29 AM
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I believe it was Snappy Sammy's great great great uncle twice removed on his mother's side...

Except the first they made it , had a crust and some red sauce on it...

Bagged the crust, refined the red sauce to it's present day state
p1atl10 - Sep 10, 2008 - 09:31 AM
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KJ.....I was talking to a guy whilst imbibing in cold adult beverages and playing pool last night.

He said the Chili Contest Rules prohibit the use of beans in the Chili??????

What kind of an abomination is that?
travelinjack3 - Sep 10, 2008 - 11:22 AM
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KJ is just doing his bit to fight global warming by keeping green house gases down.
virtual_barman - Sep 10, 2008 - 11:24 AM
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Scotland has a record of great invention when it comes to cuisine.
Who else could think of finely minced sheep heart, lungs and liver all wrapped in a yummy sheeps stomach.
I feel that it is their modern cuisine which needs a special welcome.
Deep fried mars bars and more recently deep fried pizza have added much to the enjoyment of fine food.
However, before I get hate mail from GC. I would like to mention some finer dishes that some may be unaware of.
Scotch Eggs: an egg wrapped in sausage meat and breaded.
Shepherds pie and my personnal favorite Tablet.
Also many dishes are made with the finest Scottish invention of all Whisky.
p1atl10 - Sep 10, 2008 - 12:28 PM
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WTFC????


This thread is about CHILI!!!!!

Go start your own "Great Cusine of Scotland" thread....

(should be a short one!!! Very Happy Shocked )
virtual_barman - Sep 10, 2008 - 12:46 PM
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OK Ok ....I just could not resist a pot shot at Scottish food.
I have the answer as to who invented Chili:
1618 - According to an old Southwestern American Indian legend and tale (several modern writer have documented - or maybe just "passed along") it is said that the first recipe for chili con carne was put on paper in the 17th century by a beautiful nun, Sister Mary of Agreda of Spain.
Also a mexican translation of Chili:
detestable food passing itself off as Mexican, sold in the U.S. from Texas to New York.
p1atl10 - Sep 10, 2008 - 01:25 PM
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virtual_barman wrote:
OK Ok ....I just could not resist a pot shot at Scottish food.
I have the answer as to who invented Chili:
1618 - According to an old Southwestern American Indian legend and tale (several modern writer have documented - or maybe just "passed along") it is said that the first recipe for chili con carne was put on paper in the 17th century by a beautiful nun, Sister Mary of Agreda of Spain.
Also a mexican translation of Chili:
detestable food passing itself off as Mexican, sold in the U.S. from Texas to New York.


And where was the dear sister when she invented it?

I love this quote.....

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&newwindow=1&q=origin+chili+con+carne&btnG=Search

The only thing certain about the origins of chili is that it did not originate in Mexico. Charles Ramsdell, a writer from San Antonio in an article called San Antonio: An Historical and Pictorial Guide, wrote:
"Chili, as we know it in the U.S., cannot be found in Mexico today except in a few spots which cater to tourists. If chili had come from Mexico, it would still be there. For Mexicans, especially those of Indian ancestry, do not change their culinary customs from one generation, or even from one century, to another."

There are many legends and stories about where chili originated and it is generally thought, by most historians, that the earliest versions of chili were made by the very poorest people. J. C. Clopper, the first American known to have remarked about San Antonio's chili carne, wrote in 1926:

"When they have to pay for their meat in the market, a very little is made to suffice for a family; this is generally into a kind of hash with nearly as many peppers as there are pieces of meat - this is all stewed together."

If there is any doubt about what the Mexicans think about chili, the Diccionario de Mejicanismos, published in 1959, defines chili con carne as (roughly translated):

“detestable food passing itself off as Mexican, sold in the U.S. from Texas to New York.”
virtual_barman - Sep 10, 2008 - 02:35 PM
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She never left Spain, but her spirit was seen by Indians.
Anyway I am sure that it is all a load of garbage..
Still beats the thought of some poor people using Chili to stretch their food further.
You can just picture this beautiful nun concocting her hot and fiery blend of chili while enchanting the missionaries......Lost the plot there for a minute.
I wil give you your explaination....Sounds a lot more plausible..

By the way..Will there be any beautiful nuns making Chili at the Chilli cook off?
KJ - Sep 12, 2008 - 09:11 AM
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p1atl10 wrote:
KJ.....I was talking to a guy whilst imbibing in cold adult beverages and playing pool last night.

He said the Chili Contest Rules prohibit the use of beans in the Chili??????

What kind of an abomination is that?


That is rules as sanctioned for the International Chili Appreciation Society, the folks that put on Terlingua, the biggest of all big tournaments. It is a qualifier, meaning you can't just show up and cook. You have to win one of the sanctioned cook-offs held all over the the states during the year. We are in line to become a sanctioned event, and therefore need to go by the rules that the rest of the field plays by. Once sanctioned, the winner from the Shanghai cook-off will gain automatic entry into the Terlingua cook-off.

No beans. No fruit. No corn. No pasta.....all of these are considered FOREIGN OBJECTS.

haha
GC - Sep 12, 2008 - 09:21 AM
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Baaaaaaaaaaah. Replace "International" with "World Series" and we all know it's a geek sitting in some backwater coming up with rules that make no sense to anyone.

Chili without beans is like Shanghai without over-priced Irish bars.
GC - Sep 12, 2008 - 09:22 AM
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Next you'll be telling us there is no banana in it!
p1atl10 - Sep 12, 2008 - 09:31 AM
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OK....Can't complain unless I try it.
(Well, I could....but that falls under "whining"...)

Will buck up and try it!

See you there!


Out of curiosity....pulled up the Officail Rules.

Must say..am a little disappointed in Section I, Sub G

"PYROTECHNICS - No chili contestant may discharge firearms or use any pyrotechnics or explosives at a chili cookoff. Contestants discharging firearms and/or using explosives or other pyrotechnics will be disqualified from the chili cookoff."

What fun is that?

http://www.chili.org/documents/CASI%20Official%20Rule%20Book.pdf
skyline5k - Sep 12, 2008 - 02:33 PM
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Doesn't say anything about the patrons though. We're still okay!
p1atl10 - Sep 12, 2008 - 02:54 PM
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oooohhh!!! Good Point!
T42 - Sep 13, 2008 - 02:55 PM
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Everyone knows that there are no beans in Texas Chili!!! We shoot people who violate this commandment.
KJ - Sep 17, 2008 - 09:07 AM
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T42 wrote:
Everyone knows that there are no beans in Texas Chili!!! We shoot people who violate this commandment.


.....we just can't shoot them at the actual cook-off....it might lead to disqualification.
computersolutions - Sep 17, 2008 - 11:14 PM
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Aw, damn it. No beans is just so bogus.

I'm still entering this year anyway. We make a wicked chilli, although without beans its gonna be a bit meaty.

I've emailed you KJ.

Now where can I find some decent chillies in town - Jalapeno's preferred. My bag is out..
Gotta stop munching on the things like they're chips.

Lawrence.
dkerr99 - Sep 18, 2008 - 06:30 AM
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I recall that "chili" as we know it was invented by cattle drivers in the southwest US in the 1800's as a food that could withstand the long trip and be reconstituted as they went along. They took meat, chili peppers, tomatoes - cooked it all up - then dried it into "pucks" - then when they camped each night - they would add water and presto - a bowl of spicy protein. The chili (and salt probably) kept it from turning bad. Now - I can't say that is all that appetizing - but thats where it originated.

The Texans today try to hold to that basic recipe - which says no beans - which got added by someone out in east US I think and caught on. I personally like them (the gas adds to the experience...)

My view is a good chili recipe is

chopped or cubed beef (NOT NOT NOT ground beef)
kidney beans and / or black beans and / or pinto beans (not canned)
onions
sweet green pepper
your choice of hot chilis - quantity depending on whether you want to survive the meal
tomatoes (enough so its a stew vs a soup)
spices (everyone has their secret mix...)
some beer (to drink while cooking)
some beer (for the chili to blend and cut the tomato acid)

there are lots of debates on the right spice mix - guess thats why we have contests
wefrucar - Sep 28, 2008 - 09:51 AM
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Beans do not belong in chili, they're just filler. Like flour in mac'n'cheese.

Two questions: will there be sour cream, and will there be beer? Very Happy
KJ - Sep 28, 2008 - 10:29 AM
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First answer: you can garnish for the public with whatever you like, but not for the judges' table

Second answer: are you serious?
KJ - Oct 06, 2008 - 06:50 PM
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Bump!

Good field of teams entered this year in the cook-off. We'll also be having a Corn Hole tournament on the day and perhaps a Golden Tee tournament.

Come on out and join in the fun on Saturday,. KJ
willing_light - Oct 08, 2008 - 03:16 PM
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Michael wrote:
Why Chili? Because of the food of the fire gods! Because you can pick a pizza on just about any downtown corner, but the elusive bowl of decent chili is exceedingly rare in Shanghai and deserves its own day to gather the chili magicians in celebration.


Wonderfully said!
willing_light - Oct 08, 2008 - 03:25 PM
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The day is approaching! Dreaming of chili now, I haven't had any since the last cook-off!

Ken,
I heard you have poker tournaments there at Bubba's. Any info on this?

Thanks
mat - Oct 08, 2008 - 03:27 PM
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Should be a good day. Shame i'm going to miss it again.

Has Brad Turley entered?
travelinjack3 - Oct 08, 2008 - 05:01 PM
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I am so looking forward to this.

I wish I could make the beer event at Sasha's on Friday to make it a full fest weekend but loe I have a work engagment.
mat - Oct 08, 2008 - 05:19 PM
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What's the beer event at Sashas? Bulldog is having one Friday.
travelinjack3 - Oct 08, 2008 - 05:32 PM
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Right. Confuzzed.
mat - Oct 08, 2008 - 05:41 PM
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Yeah, 10 beers at Sashas going to cost a bit more than the 150rmb this Friday that Bulldog Bar is offering.
SnappySammy - Oct 10, 2008 - 10:39 PM
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How much for Diet Coke?
GC - Oct 14, 2008 - 06:15 AM
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KJ wrote:
We'll also be having a Corn Hole tournament on the day and perhaps a Golden Tee tournament.


S&M?
p1atl10 - Oct 14, 2008 - 08:16 AM
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That's "T"...not "P"
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