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ieiuio
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I live in a small city in china, Yantai, here i get a very comfortable life but life here is boring, therefore, i turned myself to find a more exciting life in the big city. I'm still a student in Year 11 ( English System ) and i want to know if i can afford to live in shanghai with the budget of 13k rmb a month, including apartment, International school, bills and clubbing on weekends. I don't mind cooking so i don't need to eat out but i do mind having fun.
I already did few searches and the cheapest int school is 80k a year so that leaves me with around 6 thousand to the rest, if anyone knows a cheaper int school and can give me advices weather a i can afford to live in shanghai with it i would be thankful  |
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ieiuio
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By the way if anyone is on the same boat as me i wouldn't mind sharing a apartment if the person fits me |
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ieiuio
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Could someone please help me with the numbers? |
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I hate to sound old BUT aren't you a little young to be living on your own in Shanghai? Where are your parents? And the fact you said you don't mind sharing with other people proves to me you're not mature enough to live in Shanghai or away from some adult supervision. You have to be careful! Not all people are kind and considerate. People could advantage of you...ie pedophiles!!! |
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OE800
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Ok chill out HAMLover...this person clearly already lives on his/her own. And i'm quite sure that's about 17/16 years old...I'm pretty sure this person can take care of him/herself...especially in clubs, where there are many more dangers than simple roommates who you can be familiar with.
Anyways...if the remainder is 6k then it might be difficult, but not impossible...I have a real nice place that I share...I spend about 3700/month on rent, which i think is too high, but it's a really really nice place with my own bathroom. In total i'd guess my expenses are about 7k/month. If you're frugal, and choose the cheap nights/destinations, you can definitely live on that, but be careful, this city can eat you up and you can blow a lot in a single night if you want. |
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MrPuxi
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OE800, what a bunch of BULL$HIT are you spreading!?! a 16-17 year old living by him/herself in SHA and you find that appropriate? can take care of him/herself? wow, you are not a parent, are you? sorry, to actually "okay" such move is completely irresponsible. |
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ieiuio
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| HAMLover wrote: |
| I hate to sound old BUT aren't you a little young to be living on your own in Shanghai? Where are your parents? And the fact you said you don't mind sharing with other people proves to me you're not mature enough to live in Shanghai or away from some adult supervision. You have to be careful! Not all people are kind and considerate. People could advantage of you...ie pedophiles!!! |
When i said someone who fits me i meant it, I'm not going to share a apartment with someone who doesn't seem in perfect mind status or not in my age range. |
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ieiuio
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| OE800, what a bunch of BULL$HIT are you spreading!?! a 16-17 year old living by him/herself in SHA and you find that appropriate? can take care of him/herself? wow, you are not a parent, are you? sorry, to actually "okay" such move is completely irresponsible. |
If i can or can't live alone is a completely decision of my parents and it is not what I'm asking people help with, I grown up in the middle of adults and unfortunately i lost a lot of my childhood. Thanks for the worries but that's not really what i am aiming to discuss.
So someone can give me more useful advices according to the numbers i gave ?  |
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ieiuio
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Ok chill out HAMLover...this person clearly already lives on his/her own. And i'm quite sure that's about 17/16 years old...I'm pretty sure this person can take care of him/herself...especially in clubs, where there are many more dangers than simple roommates who you can be familiar with.
Anyways...if the remainder is 6k then it might be difficult, but not impossible...I have a real nice place that I share...I spend about 3700/month on rent, which i think is too high, but it's a really really nice place with my own bathroom. In total i'd guess my expenses are about 7k/month. If you're frugal, and choose the cheap nights/destinations, you can definitely live on that, but be careful, this city can eat you up and you can blow a lot in a single night if you want. |
I have been to Shanghai and had a nice time, i spent 3k in a few days (Excluding the hotel and tickets) so i know what this city can do  , But if i live there i won't spend like i do when traveling. |
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nrgfink
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I've been looking for apartments and it's been fairly easy to find decent (definitely not amazing) places for around 5k for a 2br if you go with a chinese real-estate agent
however, i would say that if you're not going to be in school, it might be a little weird.
I'm 23 working here, and most of my time i spend going out I feel fairly young. As I understand it, students here who would be around your age and even through college rarely go out clubbing unless they're foreigners. If you really want to do it I think you've realized it's feasible. Can't say I'd reccommend it though. |
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ieiuio, my comment was not directed to you but to OE800.
you can feel as much grown up as you want, may have "lost your childhood" and grown up amongst adults in yantai where you had a nice and comfortable life. that you can spend RMB 3k within a few days is good for you, congrats. however irrelevant that may be, really.
but still, i stand by my opinion. shanghai is no place for a minor living by himself/herself. if your parents will let you is surely their decision, however i feel it is wrong and completely irresponsible. but then again, i couldn't care less, really.
but one thing strikes me as odd: a comparatively well-off chinese brat growing up in yantai and asking an expat forum for advice on moving to shanghai... hmm, does carry a trollish touch, now doesn't it? |
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ieiuio
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I've been looking for apartments and it's been fairly easy to find decent (definitely not amazing) places for around 5k for a 2br if you go with a chinese real-estate agent
however, i would say that if you're not going to be in school, it might be a little weird.
I'm 23 working here, and most of my time i spend going out I feel fairly young. As I understand it, students here who would be around your age and even through college rarely go out clubbing unless they're foreigners. If you really want to do it I think you've realized it's feasible. Can't say I'd reccommend it though. |
I'm going to study there and I'm a foreigner(Brazilian), i have been there and i know a little about the nightlife there but isn't it cheaper to find apartments by yourself without a chinese agent? I think that when they see you look a little different they put those prices up. |
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ieiuio
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ieiuio, my comment was not directed to you but to OE800.
you can feel as much grown up as you want, may have "lost your childhood" and grown up amongst adults in yantai where you had a nice and comfortable life. that you can spend RMB 3k within a few days is good for you, congrats. however irrelevant that may be, really.
but still, i stand by my opinion. shanghai is no place for a minor living by himself/herself. if your parents will let you is surely their decision, however i feel it is wrong and completely irresponsible. but then again, i couldn't care less, really.
but one thing strikes me as odd: a comparatively well-off chinese brat growing up in yantai and asking an expat forum for advice on moving to shanghai... hmm, does carry a trollish touch, now doesn't it? |
Sorry MrPuxi, but your advices are becoming ignorant.
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you can feel as much grown up as you want, may have "lost your childhood" and grown up amongst adults in yantai where you had a nice and comfortable life. that you can spend RMB 3k within a few days is good for you, congrats. however irrelevant that may be, really. |
The way you said that aimed to offend me because you know that the other post's i made were not directed to you. I also never said I'm Chinese, you showed care and gave me a good opinion but i guess your point changed now.
If you feel like keep coming here and flaming it's up to you but i won't bother myself answering you back in something which isn't being asked. |
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catur
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You're likely forgetting several expenses:
Books/school supplies (even calculators) probably aren't covered in the lower end expat schools.
Transportation
lunch at school
internet connection at home
I'm sure many others. Living on your own is ALWAYS more than we think when we're on a tight budget.
Having said that, I generally agree with Mr. Puxi, and am appalled at the thought of someone your age living here on his own. My son is your age, in school here, but I guess he's led a more sheltered life. Hope all goes well for you, and ask for advice whenever you need it. |
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ieiuio
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| catur wrote: |
You're likely forgetting several expenses:
Books/school supplies (even calculators) probably aren't covered in the lower end expat schools.
Transportation
lunch at school
internet connection at home
I'm sure many others. Living on your own is ALWAYS more than we think when we're on a tight budget.
Having said that, I generally agree with Mr. Puxi, and am appalled at the thought of someone your age living here on his own. My son is your age, in school here, but I guess he's led a more sheltered life. Hope all goes well for you, and ask for advice whenever you need it. |
Yeah i understand people worries but where i come from people mature faster. As i said 13k is my monthly budget but with the school it lowers to 6k a month, Transportation and internet are the only ones which are included in this 6k, books my parents will buy it apart as it's one time thing. I wonder now with the internet and Transportation in case if i live nearby school could be excluded do you think would i be able to eat, go out and pay my bills? |
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MrPuxi
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ieiuio, i suggest that you should seriously brush-up your english. you at no point suggest hat you would not be of chinese nationality. you left me under the impression you were.
never mind, if that offends you that is pretty much your thing. i don't care. go to SHA, blow your money, get screwed over (ohh, you will. the city is just waiting for the likes of you), fail in school...i could not care less. still, if you parents let you, they are irresponsible and custody of you should be taken from them. that is my opinion. feel insulted as much as you like. good luck in the hai. |
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ieiuio
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ieiuio, i suggest that you should seriously brush-up your english. you at no point suggest hat you would not be of chinese nationality. you left me under the impression you were.
never mind, if that offends you that is pretty much your thing. i don't care. go to SHA, blow your money, get screwed over (ohh, you will. the city is just waiting for the likes of you), fail in school...i could not care less. still, if you parents let you, they are irresponsible and custody of you should be taken from them. that is my opinion. feel insulted as much as you like. good luck in the hai. |
Why would a Chinese be here asking for advices? By the way did i suggested i was? Sorry but i wonder until where can human ignorance go. If you had take a few time and read the topic you wouldn't have created all this confusion. My grades for your unhappiness are above average never ranging below A and opposite of many teenagers which live with their parents i take care of my self very well and have never been under the use of alchool or drugs independently of the places i go and the people i hang out with. With all this ignorance i wonder what YOUR kids are going to be like, now go take care of them or work and stop flaming a topic which i made waiting to find reasonable people answering a easy and simple question independently of my decisions . |
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alixiw
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Hate to say it but I thought you were Chinese also because your English is a bit shoddy. Sorry. You're going to an English school, right?
Where are your parents? Just wondering. I assume they're living in China too? because why would your parents send you to a boarding school in China? That's just plain crazy.
Regardless, the whereabouts of your parents or your lack of English skills are really none of my business or concern, but 6K left over to live on per year -in Shanghai is not doable.
Unless you want to live under the bridge.
Seriously..Shanghai is not a cheap place. Like you said you blew 3K rmb in just a few days. But if you are insistent in this endeavor, good luck. sometimes people have to learn the hard way.
PS- Locals come on this site all the time..so that's probably why some thought you could be Chinese.. |
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ieiuio
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Hate to say it but I thought you were Chinese also because your English is a bit shoddy. Sorry. You're going to an English school, right?
Where are your parents? Just wondering. I assume they're living in China too? because why would your parents send you to a boarding school in China? That's just plain crazy.
Regardless, the whereabouts of your parents or your lack of English skills are really none of my business or concern, but 6K left over to live on per year -in Shanghai is not doable.
Unless you want to live under the bridge.
Seriously..Shanghai is not a cheap place. Like you said you blew 3K rmb in just a few days. But if you are insistent in this endeavor, good luck. sometimes people have to learn the hard way. |
Please guys read the topic, English is my second language so I'm wondering if I am being misunderstood or you guys are not reading. It's 6K a MONTH (EXCLUDING SCHOOL AND BOOKS) if it's not enough for a teenager that's all i need to know then i will go ask for a higher monthly allowance now stop looking at me as a rebel teenager, if things don't go as i wish i go back to my place and keep my life but first i need to know how much i need to stay there monthly. |
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MrPuxi
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now you really showed me, didn't you? telling me off and everything. well good luck then. and do work on your english/chinglish. otherwise people may take you to be chinese. |
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fWerrF
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13k/mo for room and board is more than enough, for chinese standard.
but how much is international school? those can get pricey i think. |
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alixiw
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The way you guys are looking at me is as i was a rebel teenager, I'm wondering how much i need to live in shanghai and that's all. I don't need to suffer or whatever else, thanks god at least you answered the question. By all means if i can't live with 6k then i will have to for my parents for a higher monthly allowance.
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I think your English is perfectly fine. I apologize if it may have looked as I meant something else.
I do think that you will need more than 6K (per year) to live on in Shanghai. If you board at school- and all the other expenses are included in the school cost and that is what is left over..I still think that you will need more than 6K unless you just want to sit all weekend long in the park for free entertainment.
Ask your parents for more money if you truly think that you need to be here. But just wondering- your parents have no say or thoughts in whether or not you move to Shanghai? You're 16, right? |
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alixiw
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| now you really showed me, didn't you? telling me off and everything. well good luck then. and do work on your english/chinglish. otherwise people may take you to be chinese. |
He's got a good point there about the chinglish. |
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ieiuio
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13k/mo for room and board is more than enough, for chinese standard.
but how much is international school? those can get pricey i think. |
Thanks for the reasonable answer  . The same school which i study here they have in shanghai and it's around 7k a month and its int school so this leave me with 6k monthly what do you think? Is it enough? |
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