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Andreas
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Oct 29, 2007 - 07:47 PM |
 
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My daughter goes to YCIS since 5 years. We are very happy with the quality of the education she gets there. |
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StMichael
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Oct 29, 2007 - 11:22 PM |
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| Its so difficult to pick the perfect school because there is no perfect school, just the most suitable for your children and only you as a parent will know which is the one. |
Amen! All hands and feet up in support of your statement! |
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MidAgeG
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Nov 26, 2007 - 12:43 PM |
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We have a 5 year old boy and would like him to have a balanced Chinese and English curriculum.
Would like to hear more recent views of Yew Chung School in Pudong Regency Park.
Also, is there other choice that we can consider? |
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StMichael
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Nov 26, 2007 - 06:23 PM |
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I'm not too sure if you'd consider the Shanghai Singapore International School balanced in terms of Chinese and English curriculum (we're more slanted towards English), but we do offer Chinese from CSL to the Singapore (near native) to the local standard. |
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R_bounous
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Nov 26, 2007 - 10:04 PM |
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When in doubt ask a teacher, they will give you the skinny rather than disgruntled parents who in many cases have no idea how children learn, particularly English. There are a hell of a lot of rumours and downright lies being circulated on this thread. Each school has advantage and disadvantages but there are no cowboy outfits that is for sure. It is worth remembering that the fact that you are paying does not mean you will recieve any sort of added value when compared to public schools back home. More often than not disgruntled parents are those that expect that little extra and are not used to being told they are not going to get it. My advice would be to choose the school most convenient to you and see how it goes. If you need some honest advice pm me. |
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MidAgeG
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Nov 27, 2007 - 10:05 AM |
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Hi StMichael,
Thanks for your suggestion. We have decided not to consider SSIS for two reasons, first is the challenging academic standard, this is not necessary a bad thing but just not for our kid at this age, and we are kind of weary of the Singlish accent. |
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StMichael
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Nov 27, 2007 - 09:44 PM |
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| we are kind of weary of the Singlish accent. |
Heh...so does it mean that you'd pull out your kids or throw a fuss if you find out that the teacher teaching your kid at Yew Chung or SMIC (they've got faculty from Singapore) are Singaporeans? Just playing the devil's advocate here.  |
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MidAgeG
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Nov 27, 2007 - 10:37 PM |
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Don't take this personally but I think the school environment there tends to promote Singlish. You know, the students also speak Singlish. Nothing wrong with that as most students may eventually pursure their further education at Singapore. It's just not for us. |
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StMichael
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Nov 27, 2007 - 10:42 PM |
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Heh, nothing personal, don't worry - just trying to point out a perception bias in your thinking (I am a student of philosophy and thinking too!). Like I mentioned in the other thread, it is an uphill task for us educators to promote a "more high-classed" brand of English, rather than one they are familar with.
And you still have not answered my "trick question" - would you pull out your kids then? I suspect not, since your problem appears to be with the environment rather than the nationality of the faculty.  |
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oopsiedaisie
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Nov 27, 2007 - 11:40 PM |
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I would not pull out my child for as long as the Singaporean teacher can be understood by my child and respects the school's intended educational philosophy - having worked at SSIS before- I found that Singaporean teachers have a set way of thinking and working that I could describe as interesting at best - nothing personal StMichael, just different. And I disagree that there is no such thing as standard English, the syntax of Singlish is rather special - often times difficult if not actually impossible to understand for it is a blend of Chinese dialects not even Mandarin) And no I don't know you - there was Madam Lim - head of English but don't remember or know you as head . |
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MidAgeG
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Nov 28, 2007 - 11:35 AM |
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Thanks for all the feedback so far but the discussion is skewing towards SSIS. May I sak if anyone here have experience with Yew Chung School at Regency Park Pudong? |
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Batavia
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Nov 28, 2007 - 01:03 PM |
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My son is in YCIS and we are happy with his progress. |
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HK2ShviaUSA
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Nov 28, 2007 - 06:47 PM |
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been looking into schools again...and heard that the english level is not that high at YCIS compared to Concordia and SAS. My impressions (and only my impressions) are that there are alot of non-native English speakers (european, asian, etc.). They have a stronger emphasis on Chinese than SAS, Concordia (tourist chinese at best). I guess it depends on what you are looking for. YCIS is loosely based on the British curriculum (?). So it depends on what your kids' background is and what your objectives are.
Then again, I have heard that Koreans, Japanese and returning Chinese/Asians form a huge majority of the kids in SAS. So I question the english level there. But, looking at my friend's kids writing samples from SAS, the quality is certainly better than what my kids are doing (we are at a 50%-50% bilingual international division of a chinese school). |
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StMichael
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Manya
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Nov 30, 2007 - 03:11 PM |
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| I am moving to Shanghai soon with the family and wanted to get some first-hand feeback about the Yew Chung International School in Shanghai. What is it like for Western kids? Is is good, bad or just ok? |
Dear Wendy,
This is Marina from the marketing department of Yew Chung International School of Shanghai. I am sorry that you could not contact us. Please re-send your request to our Admissions Officer Mr Gerhard Peter (gerhardp@sh.ycef.com).
YCIS Shanghai is the oldest international school in this city. We have many strengths such as bilingual curriculum, strong ESL programme, dedicated teachers, intensive music and art programmes, international environment, convenient locations both in Pudong and Puxi, etc. YCIS Shanghai nurtures the whole person and promotes Christian moral values.
We will be happy to arrange a tour for you once you are in Shanghai. |
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sc_saetang
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Jan 14, 2009 - 02:13 PM |
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Dear All,
We are considering enrolling our kids (10 and 7) at YCIS in Aug-09 and would like to hear more from parent.
Since the school claims that it offers 70% Eng and 30% Chinese, we wonder if the Eng level is not as high as other international school?
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iara
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Jan 14, 2009 - 04:27 PM |
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My son goes to Concordia.A friend's daughter to YCIS. Both are in the same level, for the same years (both did pre-school, kindergarten, 1st and now are in the 2nd grade). Both are from Brazil, with no english background at all.
So, what I can compare is: My son english is much better, he speaks fluent english. But my friend's daughter chinese is way much better, she is even writing.
At Concordia, mandarim is not so important; just now my son is learning more characters and having homework.
So, I think it all depends in what you need/want.
I'll be happier if my son's chinese was better, but I'm quite happy with his english level. |
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StMichael
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Jan 14, 2009 - 05:23 PM |
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| sc_saetang wrote: |
Since the school claims that it offers 70% Eng and 30% Chinese, we wonder if the Eng level is not as high as other international school? |
I am an educator by training and by profession. Why would a school with 70% English have an English level not as high as a school that offers 100% English? If the logic is there, then educational systems like Singapore's (where one cannot go to university if he fails Chinese) can be assumed to have a lower level of English compared to the American educational system. |
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CwangPlee
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Jan 14, 2009 - 10:25 PM |
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i would advice you not to go to YCIS. i am 14 years old, attended that school for 3 years and i am currently in shanghai american school. i would say that ycis is a school that tries to get as much money as possible and they are not organized and stuff. however i would say shanghai american school, i am very impressed by how organized it is, it is also a non profit school |
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jfpower
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Did they also teach you to use capital letters to begin sentences "and stuff"? |
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StMichael
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Both Yew Chung and Shanghai American are not-for-profit organisations. |
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hctshanghai
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Jan 18, 2009 - 04:08 PM |
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Hi. I must say that I can agree with some of the others about the unfriendliness of YCIS and the administration. This is our second round of living in Shanghai, the first time 2002-2004. YCIS has expanded. We chose to send our four children to YCIS again because we were pleased with what our children were learning. I think that every school has its downfalls. I think you will hear negative stories from each and every parent as well as positive stories ( I kind of think it's like talking to women about their birth experience-some see all the bad and some see all the good). I think all the international schools are way over priced, regardless it's what we are stuck with. The main thing is go visit the schools, talk to the administration and "get the feeling" about what school you think is best for your child. And you must have a back-up because sometimes there are waiting lists (although that migh be improving since many expats are being sent home). Also, you want to be living in an area near your school instead of across town. I know some families who have been living here for 5-7 years and have had their children in YCIS and are really liking it for their children. I believe the British system is quite different from the way our schools function in America, but at this point, I think that my kids are getting the Mandarin quite well at YCIS and they also emphasize the arts which is a nice change. Seem like that is the first to go when making budget cuts in the schools in America. So, again, visit the school and see what you like and don't like and compare that way. Hope this helps. |
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