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static

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Posted: Sep 06, 2007 - 08:31 PM
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Posted: Sep 06, 2007 - 08:49 PM

What degree do you have?

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Posted: Sep 06, 2007 - 08:56 PM

what did you graduate for????

"recent university graduate" means nothing if you do not specify graduate on what.
what level/what field/what do you know and can you do with your diploma.

do you speak mandarin or have some knowledge of it?

and many more questions to be answered that would help people tell you what you can expect as salary in shanghai for what you can offer your future boss.

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Posted: Sep 07, 2007 - 12:57 AM

i also

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Posted: Sep 07, 2007 - 07:32 AM

in some ways you are getting an ok offer for a complete novice (post graduation with no experience). let me put it another way... many foreigners and locals alike are here after they graduate working as interns (a completely foreign concept compared to what happens in NZ and Australia, no ones works for free, especially after graduation), whereby they (the intern) receives no salary other than a small stipend each month, just enough to cover some simple expenses... so count yourself lucky here... shanghai is no longer the way it used to be, so many (too many) foreigners with a lack of skills or qualifications/work experience, hoping to jump on the bandwagon in Shanghai and make it big... IMO.

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Posted: Sep 07, 2007 - 09:59 AM

thanks for your comment sinned, its probably better for me to look at the upward potential with the company rather than the fact i can get more money working at home in vancouver for mcdonalds =)

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Posted: Sep 07, 2007 - 10:11 AM

Then why not go back home if Micky Dees can give you more money?

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Posted: Sep 07, 2007 - 10:26 AM

^read the above post for that answer

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Posted: Sep 07, 2007 - 10:48 AM

You don't need a university diploma for a job like that. Unless you are desperate for money or want to make a career in real estate, I think it would be a waste of time and your diploma. Internship is a better way to go normally but depends on what field you are in.

If you are desperate for money, check out Canadian or British Embassy in Beijing, they are always looking for people and pay more than twice that. Not the most exciting jobs, but will definitely put more bread/beer on your table Smile

I worked at the Visa Section of the British Embassy a few years ago to take a break from a very demanding job - at the time there was a good bunch of people there, very International.

If you speak Cantonese, wouldn't it be easier for you to get a job in HK, Guangzhou or Shenzhen?

Good luck!!

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Posted: Sep 07, 2007 - 11:11 AM

MIcky Deess has no potential?

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Posted: Sep 08, 2007 - 02:01 AM

yeah i dont know im new to shanghai, and its really an interesting place to live right now. but 6000k just seems really low since english teaching jobs start at significantly more, with almost no requirement for a degree.

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Posted: Sep 08, 2007 - 06:57 AM

Static,

Your last statement simply isn't true. If you think it is, try and do it.

signed, teaching in Shanghai with a Masters degree. Very Happy

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Posted: Sep 08, 2007 - 08:48 AM

If you could ignore the comments they got (perhaps) from their own personal experience and remain positive all through then you're one of the tough cookie. However tough alone doesnt help, you need luck, so much lucks indeed and more important good networks to take you to the next ladder. I was once in your position, took me months fighting the odds and hopeless mind before eventually scored the job that paid even less than 6k. I survived that one and now 3 years down the road, got into so much better position and pay... but you know, day-to day in 3 years could be challenging at times.. so be prepared..

Certainly dont lose hope, but also dont day dream too much...

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Posted: Sep 08, 2007 - 09:36 AM

Darrick wrote:

Static,

Your last statement simply isn't true. If you think it is, try and do it.

signed, teaching in Shanghai with a Masters degree. Very Happy

How's it not true? 6000 is VERY low and teaching English with no experience and no degree does pay better than that. It is harder to find a position that will hire someone to teach English with no qualifications but everyone knows they exist and are easy to get if you know the right people.

Anyway why do you really want to come to Shanghai? If you don't want a career in Education it will be very difficult with no work experience. 4 year degrees aren't nearly as valuable as they once were and decent companies don't often take risks on college graduates with no experience. Don't listen to the success stories of the few people who reply saying otherwise.

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Posted: Sep 08, 2007 - 10:16 AM

My son goes to a local kindy that in supposedly International and his teacher is a 'native speaker'. He, indeed, is a native speaker but when I read his reports, it's like a 5 yo writing - he can't spell even the simplest words! I assume he was white trash in his country and there is no way he has any degree, let alone in Education. I know that salaries in this kindy are between RMB10000-12000, so go figure.

It's very hard to give any career advice to Static until he/she gives us an indication of what sort of diploma and qualifications he holds.

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Posted: Sep 08, 2007 - 10:35 AM

there are plenty of TOFEL/IELTS/EFL tutors here, both qualified and unqualified, experienced and inexperienced, some good at what they do and others who aren't, some who earn way less than 6,000 Yuan per month and others who earn more...

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Posted: Sep 08, 2007 - 11:15 AM

this is exactly what i waspointing in my post the op must give more information about the diploma he/she holds
what qualifications and what can he/she actually do with this diploma

if the diploma is let say in mechanic no way he/she willl find a job as a chef for exemple just an idea what is he/she capable of contributing to a potentiel employer.

speaking cantonese is valuable in south china not in the north i assume that speaking cantonese he'she also speak mandarin and probably a local or something like that may be abc or such but still without knowledge of what he/she can do and bring to china i think hard to get some good advises and connections

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Posted: Sep 08, 2007 - 11:18 AM

In my opinion 6000RMB is too low but you can try giving private tutorial as a sideline. You could earn more with that. Thats what my friend do. He teaches English to businessman who want to learn English. Rate is 300RMB/hour.

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Posted: Sep 08, 2007 - 11:32 AM

Totally agree with freeman2007.

As for teaching English, being able to speak a language doesn't necessarily mean being able to teach it, it's not as easy as it might seem, unless you don't care about the end result, of course. There are so many crappy teachers out there (I am not saying that Static is), a lot of them need English classes themselves.

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Posted: Sep 08, 2007 - 12:52 PM
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static wrote:

Hello all,

The first position outside of teaching English that I applied for was for a multi-national real estate company. The position entails aiding expats find housing and acting as a liason between the expat's company and the local apartment home owner etc.

The starting salary they offered before tax is 6000 RMB. Is this acceptable ? They did say that after 3 months I would be able to obtain commission that would significantly increase my pay depending on my sales performance.

By that, do you mean that you're a real estate/property agent for a company like century 21, etc.?

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Posted: Sep 08, 2007 - 02:32 PM

IMO - pretty simple, if you are desperate - then take the role ... but still be on the market ... if you're not needing cashflow, then wait it out ... good luck!

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Posted: Sep 08, 2007 - 02:43 PM

It will be close to impossible to lead anything resembling a decent expat life in Shanghai for 6,000 RMB a month. Vague promises of commission increase in the future are almost never kept.

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Posted: Sep 08, 2007 - 03:02 PM
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[quote="foodcoma"][quote="static"]Hello all,

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Pegasus333

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Posted: Sep 08, 2007 - 04:56 PM

Since you know Cantonese, you must be of Chinese descent. Even if you have an English teaching qualification, you will find it very difficult to secure an English teaching job in China if you have a Chinese face. You will have a better chance of success in the second job of real estate. But I would have thought a job with Mcdonalds is certainly one with a brighter prospect though you may not think so. It is because Mcdonalds under promises and over delivers while that Chinese dodgy real estate shop over promises and under delivers. Well, as they often say, one must cross the yellow river before one is satisfied. Wink