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babebibobu
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After the breakup of Yugoslavia, the Europe of regions, now we have Kosovo, a "sovereign independent state"! On the other side of the world, Spielberg (Lobby? What Lobby?) wants China to support the breakup of African nations into religious, racial entities.
Those brilliant visionary peacemakers wants a world of communities, ethnically and religiously pure, under the umbrella of benevolent US, NATO and the gentle guidance of G_d's Chosen People!
Part of the ploy, now it will become mandatory for every 11 year old French schoolkids to repent for the killing of Jews: each of them will be assigned the memory of a dead Jewish kid killed by the Nazi. Brainwashing at its best, on a unprecedented scale, which even the Nazi havent dared to imagine! |
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jacobbarnes
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Feb 18, 2008 - 12:16 PM |
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You're off your rocker.
Ethnicity in Kosovo became and issue when Milosevic gave his infamous field of blackbirds speach in the late 80s.
He saw the handwriting on the wall and conveiently went from being a socialist to a Serb nationalist.
Ethnicity became an issue in Kosovo when paramiltary groups like the Akran tigers targetted civilians, burnt villages and destroyed minarets.
The sad state of Yugoslavia has much more to do with the Karadzics and Milosovics and their enablers in Russia than the Jews.
Save it I am neither a zionist nor a jew. There is just a much simpler explanation and as Ockam (yes I know a vile Anglo-saxon) might say sometimes it is that simple.
The Albanians of Kosovo have a right to feel safe, and in light of the Serb majority making ethnicity an issue in the former Yugoslavia (why the field of blackbirds speech, why national i.d.s that indicatge whether you are Eastern Orthodox or Muslim, why the targetting of civilians in Bosnia and Kosovo)--or would you suggest that they too were part of the grand zionist conspiracy.
No I believe that you sir have been blinded by mono-mania.
Does Isreal need to find a solution to the Palestinian question--certainly. Would it Help if the U.S. did not carry their water--certainly. Is zionism a racist concept--I'm not gonna tough that one, but I wouldn't call you crazy to make the argument. What does all this have to do with Ksovo: ZERO.
Your post says more about you than anything. Oh and Sarkozy does seem to be overreachgin so why don't you go on over to that thread and bash him and the lobby all you want, cause as we anglo-saxon Americans like to say that dog won't hunt.
And before you start going on about main stream media you can put a sock in that too, as the American mass-meida (I lived in U.S. as the sad events unfolded) never coverred the slaughter in Kosovo, Srebrenica or elsewhere in the former Yugoslavia because most Americans did not care and did not even bother to try to understnad what was going on. So I didn't base my opinion on t.v. or the mass media. I actually know what I am talking about, and although you are an interesting, and oft discussed poster, and sometimes make valid points you are miles from the point on this one.
So step back and reconsider, is it possible every geo-political event need not be looked at through your Isreal lense, and then ask yourself why do you need to constantly fight this zionist dragon, why is your initial inclination always to think, how does this relate to the Jew?
You may find the answer enlightening. |
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babebibobu
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Feb 18, 2008 - 12:36 PM |
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Thanks for the nice post. We do need more posters with brains on this forum. So your theory here is that it was all because of the bad communists? The fact remains that the "US" (lets put quotation marks around that one and not try to see who is pulling the strings) are promoting separatist groups everywhere in the world. We have seen, are continue to see this, in Eastern Europe. We see this in Africa. We see it in the Pacific Islands. See the official plan for Europe, under the new US-sponsored European Constitution. They are reorganizing the planet along ethnic and religious lines, seemingly in the name of some Great Ideal. As for Israel, isnt it ultimate model for such apartheid states? At least, it is hard to see that Sionist activists the world over have been promoting the breakup up of sovereign nations - most recently the odious Steven Spielberg. Why is that? And why am I obsessed with Zionists (sorry I tend to forget the Z)? Perhaps if they did not try to hard, were not so visible, we would not have noticed. They went way too far in their shameless effort - recent examples Spielberg again and Sarkozy's new brainwashing scheme, announced at the very meeting where he went, as president of France (sorry soon forbidden to capitalize this word), report to CRIF - an association that openly represent zionist Israel in France. |
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jacobbarnes
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Feb 18, 2008 - 12:48 PM |
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I don't know about Spielberg.
Funny thing you don't completely understand about Americans, they are for the most part incredibly naive. They think Americans are all essentially decent people and their government although flawed, tries to do the right thing. I know it's funny.
So many of them look for other nations that are doing bad things, or other pet causes where they can take a convenient stance without really sacrificing anything but at the same time feel good and possibly morally superior.
I don't know if Spielbergs stance has anything to do with the berg in his name, or if he is in fact a zionist, I think it's more that sort of thing. He wants to thing celebrities can change the world and help the bad Chinese see the light.
Oh and I don't think the communists were the problem in Yugoslaivia, but once that system colapsed it was replaced by ethnic nationalist movements, many of which were led by former communists.
Just as Putin and Zhuganov became nationlists in Russia. Like most politicians they believed in power over all other things and when the exisint system colapses it become convenient to become a nationalist pick and "other" or outsider and blame all your problems on them.
Kind of like the "immigration crisis" in the U.S.
As far as why you spend so much time thinking about Sionism/Zionism, only you can answer that.
Oh and you are an interesting poster who at least has something to say, that is rare around these parts. |
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babebibobu
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Feb 18, 2008 - 01:12 PM |
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Yes thanks Jacob... As to why, perhaps you could see it that way: 99.999% of the media talking about, for example, Kosovo a small country where brave freedom-loving people wants to live in Peace against all the Once-Red Villains. Babebibobu's job here, as an unpaid propagandist, is to shed a different light on world's event. Its easier to do on the Internet than in real life, where one could lose his job and - in most of Europe at least - be prosecuted for writing this. That is why we like Sarkozy's latest initiative - it gives unprecedented air time to our cause. |
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Andreas
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Feb 18, 2008 - 04:31 PM |
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Kosovo is quite unique actually, because it was the first time that NATO has been fighting for organized crime. Which then spread out with the 'refugees' over NW Europe. |
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TheMasterofDisaster
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Feb 18, 2008 - 08:43 PM |
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yes, a few dozen gangsters got killed by the serbian police, then NATO bombed serbia/ yugoslavia. killed 5000 people unneceserilly, and destroyed one of the few remaining states that protected its peolpe from barbarian free market capitalism.
funny that they wave albanian flags isnt it? u might presume there isnt a kosovan flag wudnt u?
i presume england will soon be handing and recognising "northern ireland" back to the country it belongs to?
and will be embargoing/ invading the apartheied state of isreal as it so concerned? |
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Andreas
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Feb 18, 2008 - 09:02 PM |
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And I want my 5 stolen car radios back !!! |
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babebibobu
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Feb 18, 2008 - 09:23 PM |
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Its seem they made up a flag with the map of the country, on blue ('Europe' blue) background with a few yellow stars ('Europe' stars but having yellow stars really cant do any harm). Thats what I just saw on TV.
Kosovo
Area 10,000 sqm
Population 2 millions (no proper recent census)
GDP per capita around 1500 USD
Unemployment rate over 40%
(This "country" has been surviving, or should I say, created with European subsidies to the tune of several biliions Euros a year)
Shanghai
Area 6300 sqm
Population 17+ millions
GDP per capita over 7000 USD
Unemployment rate 5% |
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bougie
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Feb 18, 2008 - 09:39 PM |
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Is this about kinky sex ? |
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babebibobu
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Feb 18, 2008 - 09:49 PM |
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Andreas, good point about the Albanian mafia that is running Kosovo with US & Europe support. And with revenue from drug trafficking all over Europe. We have entered a very difficult period for Europe, I am afraid. |
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Feb 18, 2008 - 10:44 PM |
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findus
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Feb 19, 2008 - 12:40 PM |
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http://www.reuters.com/article/newsMaps/idUSTP34030820080219
China Shits Its Pants
BEIJING (Reuters) - China's ambassador to the United Nations has warned that Kosovo's independence declaration could cause conflict and undermine the U.N., and repeated his country's "deep concern" over the nascent state's unilateral move.
Wang Guangya told an emergency session of the U.N. Security Council, of which China is a veto-wielding member, that negotiations between Kosovo and Serbia should continue, the official Xinhua news agency reported on Tuesday.
"The issue of Kosovo status does have its special nature," Wang told the session.
"Nevertheless, to terminate negotiations, give up pursuit of a solution acceptable to both parties and replace such efforts with unilateral action will certainly constitute a serious challenge to the fundamental principles of international law."
His remarks underscore those of China's Foreign Ministry in Beijing, which said on Monday that the country was "deeply worried about the grave negative impact" that Kosovo's independence would have in the region.
The majority ethnic Albanian territory, once ruled as a part of Serbia, has been under United Nations supervision since 1999, when NATO bombing forced the withdrawal of Serb forces that had been attacking Albanians there.
Kosovo's action sets a worrying precedent for China's own territorial integrity. China claims the self-governing island of Taiwan as its own and faces separatist sentiments in its far-western regions of Xinjiang and t¡bet.
Wang said U.N. Security Council resolution 1244, which gave the U.N. the authority to administer Kosovo, could not be unilaterally jettisoned.
"If a resolution adopted by the Security Council is not observed and implemented, the resolution in question would become a mere scrap of paper," Xinhua quoted him as saying.
"What's more, the authority and credibility of the Security Council as the primary organ for safeguarding world peace and security would be compromised."
Wang also called on the European Union to "make greater efforts to reconcile the positions of Serbia and Kosovo".
Europe's major powers and the United States have said they recognized Kosovo's new independence, but China joins Russia, Spain and Serbia among others in opposing the move.
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babebibobu
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Feb 19, 2008 - 03:14 PM |
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Shits in its pants? China is very right to point that resolution 1244 is not being respected. This is the breakup of the world - Russia, China, may be next. France too - Corsica, the Pacific territories, Brittany, Alsace, etc... This is EXACTLY what Sarkozy has done by recognizing Kosovo. The so-called ineffective Kouchner, is not that ineffective after all. He is really doing is job as FOREIGN minister of france (no capital letter please). |
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tomnoddy_uk
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Feb 19, 2008 - 04:53 PM |
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Good for them is what I say. It is what the overwhelming majority of Kosovians (?) would want (in my experience). Much better than having the UN live in the country. |
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tomnoddy_uk
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Kosovars is the correct term apparently. |
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findus
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Feb 19, 2008 - 05:44 PM |
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| babebibobu wrote: |
| Shits in its pants? China is very right to point that resolution 1244 is not being respected. This is the breakup of the world - Russia, China, may be next. France too - Corsica, the Pacific territories, Brittany, Alsace, etc... This is EXACTLY what Sarkozy has done by recognizing Kosovo. The so-called ineffective Kouchner, is not that ineffective after all. He is really doing is job as FOREIGN minister of france (no capital letter please). |
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babebibobu
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And some of us are opposing it. I see a civil war in Europe within 10 years. |
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findus
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Feb 20, 2008 - 02:33 AM |
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Right.
I oppose stuff and things. I see a civil war about jazz and trinkets somewhere because of something. Therefore none is allowed to do anything because it might happen and stuff. |
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CoffeeHawk_0
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Feb 20, 2008 - 06:50 AM |
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Europe will continue to unite to combat the economic power of China and the US.
China will become the world's largest economic force.
The US will struggle to maintain it's luxurious lifestyle.
Parts of the Middle East will collapse when the demand for oil drops; as hydrogen replaces oil.
Subsequent clashes in the Middle East (as economies collapse due to falling oil prices and no other industries to rely on) will create large scale wars eventually including eastern and western countries; Armageddon baby! |
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tomnoddy_uk
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Feb 20, 2008 - 10:27 AM |
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oil won't fall for a long time with the current oil supply situation.
hydrogen won't be around for a few decades yet |
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babebibobu
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Pathetic predictions by Coffeehawk! I like the 'Europe will continue to unite" in a thread about Kosovo. Well done, pal. |
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babebibobu
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I know he is a good guy, but his posting style starts to resemble Nathalie's. |
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CoffeeHawk_0
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Feb 20, 2008 - 12:49 PM |
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I didn't say all of Europe boys. Parts of Europe, will not sit idle while China, India, and the US, South America, and Africa become dominant economic forces.
Look for the S. Am. Union to start next. |
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