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YseUp
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July 22, 2008 - 05:44 AM |
 
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So I'm considering moving to Asia in the next 6 to 12 months and I'm investigating various cities.
As a 20-something male I need to consider my sex/relationship life as well.
Here in the UK I enjoy meeting different kinds of women, I like to keep everything casual and don't enter into exclusive relationships.
I have 2 questions:
1. Are there enough ex-pat women between 18 and 30 for me to meet? The great thing about living in London is the amount of women I can meet in shops, bars, clubs etc. Will I feel wanting for choice in Shanghai?
2. I guess I could meet local women as well. How do they view casual relationships, sex and dating. When I visited SE Asia I avoided all local women because I felt they were really looking for deep romantic love or my (meagre amount of) money.
This might seem prejudiced but 95% of the Asian women that I've hooked up (or tried) with have been really hard work, and looking for some kind of romantic hero / provider man that they can fall in love with.
Is there scope for my kind of lifestyle or would I be better off in Honk Kong, Singapore or Bangkok. |
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mrl
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July 22, 2008 - 06:46 AM |
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I think you will feel at home in Shanghai.
If not, I think you will feel at home in the shady barber shops. |
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YseUp
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July 22, 2008 - 06:51 AM |
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I'm not interested in paying for sex directly or indirectly (dinner, dates, gifts, holidays).
Only adults need reply to this post. |
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p1atl10
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July 22, 2008 - 07:50 AM |
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Check your "economy thread...
Good suggestion from OTD.
A little more information and some more less "generic" questions and we could probably help. |
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woaihuan
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July 22, 2008 - 08:11 AM |
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Bangkok, you'd probably be paying for sex. Hong Kong... not so much. Plus there are loads of whities there. No idea about Singapore.
I don't think Shanghai is right for you. |
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Cambronne
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July 22, 2008 - 08:15 AM |
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I felt they were really looking for deep romantic love or my (meagre amount of) money.
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I dont understand this one. Its contradictory, as is most Western propaganda about China anyway. |
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Cambronne
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July 22, 2008 - 08:22 AM |
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This might seem prejudiced but 95% of the Asian women that I've hooked up (or tried) with have been really hard work, and looking for some kind of romantic hero / provider man that they can fall in love with.
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That one made me think. Based on my experience, it the other way round, the sentence above would apply to Western women, not at all to Asian ones. |
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woaihuan
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July 22, 2008 - 08:25 AM |
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You meet a lot of sluts Cambronne. |
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Cambronne
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July 22, 2008 - 08:27 AM |
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Sluts? Not at all. You misunderstood me. I met Asian women who were all (almost, say 95%) rather independent clever highly educated women - certainly not hopelessly looking for a "hero" or "provider" as in the sentence above. Learn to read, btw. |
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woaihuan
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July 22, 2008 - 08:30 AM |
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Oooh... I thought you meant 95% of Asians you met were easy.
It's probably just because you meet them in a work setting.
I still disagree, though. |
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Cambronne
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July 22, 2008 - 08:33 AM |
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True, unlike the typical whie-trash men here, I meet girl in normal daily situation, which is work, or lunch-breaks etc in business areas. Not in bars or whorehouses. |
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YseUp
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July 22, 2008 - 12:40 PM |
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Hey guys, once again. It's difficult to ask specific question at this point as I'm still doing research.
I'm not considering Asia to get laid or to find a wife or anything like that.
Although I'm not good looking or anything I have no trouble meeting women over here as I actually have a pair of balls and enjoy striking up conversation with women in all kinds of situations (including broad day light) without the aid of alcohol.
I'd like to think I'm honest and a straight forward kind of guy and I'm not interested in playing games. I'm just wondering if my way of doing things would be met with a lot of resistance in Asia. When I travelled around SE Asia I did not mind socialising with the locals but avoided hooking up with them as the Western travellers were more in my headspace (Why anyone needs to pay for sex in SE Asia when there are thousands of Swedish backpackers all over the place is beyond my understanding). |
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Magnolia
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July 22, 2008 - 01:23 PM |
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Question 1 - Yes.
Question 2 - Trickier, but not impossible. But you will have to muck through a lot of what you aren't seeking unless you happen to hit the jackpot. And if you do find the perfect casual partner, she will probably be a 'keeper' who won't have you.
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I'm just wondering if my way of doing things would be met with a lot of resistance in Asia.
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Hit or miss. Depends where you are in town... some may be shocked, others flattered while another segment may have no clue of how to react. Thats the good thing about Shanghai... millions upon millions of people and an ever-increasing expat culture... if at once you don't succeed, try, try again.
In all honesty, you will probably spend more time fending off advances of bar girls than worrying about technique. Shanghai is an easy town, it all depends on what you put into it. |
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Cambronne
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July 22, 2008 - 02:52 PM |
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In all honesty, you will probably spend more time fending off advances of bar girls than worrying about technique.
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Thats assuming he goes to a bar - common term for a whorehouse. |
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woaihuan
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July 22, 2008 - 02:53 PM |
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Magnolia
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July 22, 2008 - 02:55 PM |
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sorry, in Cambronne-speak, bar = Starbucks. |
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beiaixi
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July 22, 2008 - 03:55 PM |
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Hi,
I can see that some people just have a "want-it-all" attitude but not sure that being greedy would actually work!
Anyway: GOOD LUCK on that mate! |
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CIA
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July 22, 2008 - 10:06 PM |
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Expat women are usually older and "not available" (i.e. married with kids)
You need to look to locals (Chinese girls) for 'dating' as they will probably be your best bet statistically speaking. |
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SnappySammy
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July 23, 2008 - 01:20 AM |
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I don't understand if you want Wasp Woman why come to China..Stay in England..If you want Chinese woman then come to China....
It's saying I really like to play baseball, so I think I'll move to China.... |
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Magnolia
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July 23, 2008 - 02:54 AM |
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^ although Japan would be an option for baseball |
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YseUp
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July 23, 2008 - 03:09 AM |
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Thanks for all the replies guys.
SnappySammy: If women were the only focus of my life, I'd go to Sweden or Denmark.
But that's not the point. So I'm investigating different options. I've lived in a few different countries and cities so I know there is a difference in type of women and dating / sex / relationship culture. |
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woaihuan
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July 23, 2008 - 08:01 AM |
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Well, let me put it simply.
Dating: The guy pays and you're typically not going to get anything afterward.
Sex: Women typically aren't as slutty here as in the west, and a few dates is not going to get you anything from most. Barbershops (brothels) are small and widely available. I'm sure someone can go into more detail on that, in regards to price and services...
Relationship culture: Women typically date for marriage. If you're dating a young one, 18-24, they won't be too worried about getting married right away. However if you're dating someone 25 or older... you can expect they won't want to waste time (and that still doesn't mean you're going to get anything). Most of them will want their parents approval, as they likely live with their parents, and getting that as a foreigner is not easy. |
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Nathalie25
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July 23, 2008 - 10:01 AM |
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5 years ago, I thought that marriage could help me to get some romance in that moment, but now, I don't think it is mature to marry with person which you never know him seriously and personally for wit for fool, so people should uunderstand or realise what they really want for selves when they date or relate with their girls or boys in town~~ |
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woaihuan
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July 23, 2008 - 10:09 AM |
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Sounds like you're just rationalizing the fact that you'll never get married. |
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Mae_shanghai
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July 23, 2008 - 11:02 AM |
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if you think you can find those right women in shanghai very easily.you needn't come here. irresponsible man |
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