Agreeable Chinese women... hard to get to know!

by **bookmanoldstyle** » Wed May 26, 2010 8:24 pm

rickettyrabbit wrote:^ Maybe the irony will be lost on you, but what you've read is people (unfairly) stereotyping others. You find it to be "completely sexist, racist, and downright appalling at being human beings", then you turn around an apply this stereotype to whom? Everybody?

Twannnnnnnnnnnnnng! That's the sound of the needle on my irony meter being pinned by an irony overload.

yup...everybody's sexist, racist, and all that other great stuff. myself included. irony is always lost on me, under me, over me....

again, looking forward to shanghai.

by **san5324** » Thu May 27, 2010 12:08 am

victorinchina wrote:^ Should be easy enough for you to understand what goes on in Chinese girls heads...

I mean, you acting like a 16 year old girl and all...

ding-ding-ding... its a knock out !! lol

by **Suzy_Xu** » Sat Jul 17, 2010 9:28 pm

Maybe you are just an arrogant laowai who thinks he is so much better then everyone else because there are so many young Chinese girls throwing themselves at the 'money' in Shanghai etc. You should try not pretending to be all superior to everyone who is not from your race and wage bracket. Believe it or not once you meet people outside of Shanghai and the other big places, you just may meet some real honest, open and friendly people who will talk to you and not just agree all the time.

by **cliu** » Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:13 pm

i didn't follow the whole thread, just read your first post. And all of a sudden, just let me nag over here for a while...arrggghhhh~~~~
don't talk about Chinese girls, I found problem with Chinese guys either.
They don't enjoy life, they drink alchohol for the purpose of 'social' or 'networking'. They are just not drink to relax. Not hanging around for fun. Every outing must be a 'potential' dating.
gosh...I need to know you first,ok? before i can make the decision whether to have a serious relationship with you or not.
When asked them, what hobby they have? what book they read? what food they prefer to have tonight?
Always chinese rest with chinese rest. I enjoy Jap food, Italian food, Korean food, Mexican food, Western food and chinese food too, of course. but not every single dating...comon

sorry if i m out of topic.

by **NoChinaForOldChang** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:18 am

well kalan the problem is that they're dating your money and that's only what they're agreeing to every time. if you weren't to spread them, they wouldn't fly to it- ya get me? i'm talking about hos and money, dawg. don't you pay attention to your rap that you blare out of your radioshack cd player?

by **KalanStar** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:03 am

Wow, I guess this thread has been officially resurrected! Now if only i could remember all the things I posted in here... or I could read i..t... bloody hell, 10 pages, I'm not interested in myself enough to reread all that garbage! Just let me say this, Chinese women are hard to get to know, but once you do get to know them you have to ask yourself, why did I bother! Actually, that's a bit cynical...

I'm still in contact with 2 of the girls from this thread, and I know them better than ever, still lots of sexual tension, but I've not taken the plunge! I think my biggest problem with Chinese women is that they have so very very little experience in the world. I mean, their lives are really boring because China is really boring and they've never been anywhere else! Sometimes when I'm talking to Chinese girls I feel as if I'm talking to a child. They just don't seem to have learned (or memorized what their parents memorized from their parents before them etc. etc.) very much in life! I have a 23 year old cute female colleague. we get on well, flirt non-stop, hang-out sometimes, and generally enjoy each-other's company. Sometimes I just want to bang her brains out, but at other times, like when she's talking about her favorite pop-star (idol) and how she loves her so much, dresses like her and wants to be a famous singer like her, I feel like slapping her more than screwing her. i mean, com'on! You're 23 for christ's sake, stop babbling on like a 15 year old!

When I contrast the women I meet here with the women I've met and dated from Korea, Japan, Canada, the US, Germany, Bulgaria France etc. etc., the major difference is life experience. Only in China have I had a girl tell me she was reading a book, and upon further inquiry it turned out to be about accounting. Only in China have I mentioned Japan to a beautiful young university grad and have had them respond with vile poisonous racial hatred that would shock the devil's momma! Only in China have a met a girl who told me her hobby was traveling but had never left her home country, or even seen half of it! Only in China have I sat and listened to a girl talk about how she wants to meet "the one' as long as he has a good job, a house, and a car. Only in China have I had conversations that always and only touched on shopping, money, their parents, or about how Chinese people are not like loawai (I being the only example used), and on a the deepest level, this is China, 5000 years of history blah blah f*cking blah! Sorry, but how could any Westerner settle down with a Chinese girl and listen to that kind of nonsensical drivel the rest of their lives!!!

Ahhhhhrrrrgggg! China is getting to me again!!! I'll be in Korea next week, ahhhhhhhhhhh

Natalie, Sunny, Bridget, Olivia, Hannah... finally some descent girls to chat with!

by **JessicaSun** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:29 pm

KalanStar wrote:I'm still in contact with 2 of the girls from this thread, and I know them better than ever, still lots of sexual tension, but I've not taken the plunge! I think my biggest problem with Chinese women is that they have so very very little experience in the world. I mean, their lives are really boring because China is really boring

Honest words made from your heart. you said the women you met have very very little experience in the world, I wonder what kind of experience can be called ' experienced'? travelling to many countries can be called 'experienced'? or something else? I''m all your ears.

by **KalanStar** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:57 pm

JessicaSun wrote:
KalanStar wrote:I'm still in contact with 2 of the girls from this thread, and I know them better than ever, still lots of sexual tension, but I've not taken the plunge! I think my biggest problem with Chinese women is that they have so very very little experience in the world. I mean, their lives are really boring because China is really boring

Honest words made from your heart. you said the women you met have very very little experience in the world, I wonder what kind of experience can be called ' experienced'? travelling to many countries can be called 'experienced'? or something else? I''m all your ears.

Traveling, reading, involved in hobbies/sports etc., but mostly traveling. I can't stand hearing about "the west" and how it's different from China from people who have never been anywhere. Also girls here like to talk about shopping, their jobs, money etc. etc., and these topics are just boring. I like to hear about what they've learned in their lives from experiencing the world. It's much more interesting.

by **JessicaSun** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:00 pm

haha, how about preparing presentation material for boss for tomorrow morning? AND it has been revised V9! just because BIG BOSS is coming!! have to show different datas, pie chart, column chart.... no funny~~ just dont wanna OT today!

So is it interesting for you? I guess not.

by **greeneyedlady** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:45 am

I think what Kalen is trying to say is, it's interesting to talk to people that actually have opinions and thoughts in their heads. So many people live in a bubble and don't want to see what's around them. It just doesn't happen in China, it happens everywhere. The world is so interesting and most people never take the time to explore it.

by **JessicaSun** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:04 am

greeneyedlady wrote:I think what Kalen is trying to say is, it's interesting to talk to people that actually have opinions and thoughts in their heads. So many people live in a bubble and don't want to see what's around them. It just doesn't happen in China, it happens everywhere. The world is so interesting and most people never take the time to explore it.

Good Point! See, Kalan, here is a girl with deep opinion about your thread~

by **KalanStar** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:21 am

^^Yes, and she's right. If I go to my hometown, I can't talk to the people at all without being very annoyed or bored. It's not a China only thing, but it does seem to be much more common here. Considering the size of Shanghai, it is quite surprising to meet so many people with a villager's mind!

by **greeneyedlady** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:26 am

But if you are taught from a very early age NOT to see the world around you what can you expect as an adult.

I love it when guys date or marry a Chinese girl below their social status. In reality they are marrying a child that they need to "teach" how act properly in the real world. Some of the girls take to learning and some refuse. The one's that refuse really make the most horrible GF/wives.

I guess that just our "western" way to change people to what we think is better.

by **Suzy_Xu** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:45 am

greeneyedlady wrote:I guess that just our "western" way to change people to what we think is better.

But who is to say if "western" ways are really better for Chinese? "What appeals to one side does not always appeal to the other. Maybe Chinese ways could be better for some Western people as well?

by **greeneyedlady** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:46 am

You might be right but I think examples are needed Suzy....

by **Suzy_Xu** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:51 am

greeneyedlady wrote:You might be right but I think examples are needed Suzy....

Just a question. Not have anything special in mind. Just think is human way for all to mthink they are better and can teach others when many times we are the one that need teaching and improving.

This is not mean as attack on anyone or anything btw, just a comment. I know I am not like most as I look, listen and think about many different ways before jump and say yes China only one. I 'opened' my eyes to the world many many years ago and see much can improve here but am sure Chinese can teach much as well.

by **Nacirema** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:55 am

Historically, Chinese girls have been told to stfu and be a good wife. A horrible result of the one child policy was the devaluation of their family utility. Instead of growing up and supporting her parents in old age, a girl could only hope to find a wealthy husband. Education was reserved for males (at least, families would only pay for a good education if they had a son), which exasperated the problem.

Not to attack any of the above opinions, but instead of demonizing the victims of a social prejudice, I think it would be more sensitive to sympathize with the lingering effects, which really are beginning to clear up as Chinese minds are becoming more open.

by **Suzy_Xu** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:59 am

Nacirema wrote:Historically, Chinese girls have been told to stfu and be a good wife. A horrible result of the one child policy was the devaluation of their family utility. Instead of growing up and supporting her parents in old age, a girl could only hope to find a wealthy husband. Education was reserved for males (at least, families would only pay for a good education if they had a son), which exasperated the problem.

Not to attack any of the above opinions, but instead of demonizing the victims of a social prejudice, I think it would be more sensitive to sympathize with the lingering effects, which really are beginning to clear up as Chinese minds are becoming more open.

This is very true but in my opinion there still are way too many 'Chinese males' who still fight to keep Chinese women down. I was lucky to be first born of three and have a father who saw a future for me even though I was 'just a girl' as my mother and grandmotehr thought.

by **KalanStar** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:55 am

I think a lot of Chinese, both men and women, need to be educated in simple civility! Before the revolution in China, Chinese of the lower classes had the aristocracy to aspire to. The loss of this Mandarin class significantly set back the social graces of the average Chinese to about 5000 years ago! Unfortunately, most Chinese are too proud to be educated. They take offense to anyone trying to teach them anything. If China and it's people truly want to integrate into the world community, such ideas have got to change. No more "this is China" BS when a foreigner questions them about or comments on Chinese people's distinct lack of respect for others in public, ie pushing, beeping horns, yelling, spitting etc. These things make laowai think Chinese are a bunch of apes! On a related topic, it has always been the Chinese mindset that China was the centre of the world and the centre of civilization while all outsiders were barbarians. This self congratulatory delusion has meant that for the most part Chinese people have learned very little from outsiders. This has also got to change.

I spent a lot of time growing up in a village of 500 people in the countryside of Canada. The people there are of the same mindset as many Chinese I meet, blissfully ignorant. But I rose above them and got the hell out of there as soon as I could because I realized that the world was a much bigger place and there was a lot to learn and experience beyond the borders of my rural locality. I think many Chinese have got to do that too. Stop focusing on how great they think everything is here, and figure out what makes other places and their people just as great! if I go back to my parents home, I literally start to go insane after a week or two interacting with and listening to them! I'd rather be in Shanghai any day!

by **Suzy_Xu** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:29 pm

KalanStar wrote:I think a lot of Chinese, both men and women, need to be educated in simple civility!
In some civilizations it is polite to 'burp' and others it is not
Before the revolution in China, Chinese of the lower classes had the aristocracy to aspire to. The loss of this Mandarin class significantly set back the social graces of the average Chinese to about 5000 years ago!
Set China back or pushed back?
Unfortunately, most Chinese are too proud to be educated. They take offense to anyone trying to teach them anything.
Sort of agree, much of this is the arrogant cultural revolution ideals pushed on many
If China and it's people truly want to integrate into the world community, such ideas have got to change.
Very true but I can't see the majority changing as most are still like sheep and follow the few
No more "this is China" BS when a foreigner questions them about or comments on Chinese people's distinct lack of respect for others in public, ie pushing, beeping horns, yelling, spitting etc. These things make laowai think Chinese are a bunch of apes!
Don't agree here as said before some civilizations think burping etc are polite, some don't. this is just Chinese ways and also as the worlds largest population some bad things are never going to be changed. Yes they should but ......
On a related topic, it has always been the Chinese mindset that China was the centre of the world and the centre of civilization while all outsiders were barbarians. This self congratulatory delusion has meant that for the most part Chinese people have learned very little from outsiders. This has also got to change.
Very very true and I know as a kid growing up how we were 'pushed' with so much rubbish. Most of this was what make me decide to look and learn for myself about others and other places
I spent a lot of time growing up in a village of 500 people in the countryside of Canada. The people there are of the same mindset as many Chinese I meet, blissfully ignorant. But I rose above them and got the hell out of there as soon as I could because I realized that the world was a much bigger place and there was a lot to learn and experience beyond the borders of my rural locality.
Good for you and I did the same but becaused of way I did it I was criticized even on here by fellow Chinese as well as western. But then what about the old western saying "ignorance is Bliss? Should we judge peoipl efor living/wanting simple life?
I think many Chinese have got to do that too. Stop focusing on how great they think everything is here, and figure out what makes other places and their people just as great!
Total true and even I have tell some students (quietly) to look at many news source and not just one before decide what is right or wrong
if I go back to my parents home, I literally start to go insane after a week or two interacting with and listening to them! I'd rather be in Shanghai any day!
I love my family but hate the small village and thinking where I grew up but do go back for the sake of them seeing their frist grandchild (my daughter of Chinese/Australian blood), but I don't enjoy being there. Thejn again I don't like Shanghai either as it is too big and full of too many Chinese and Western people who are not 'typical' people of the normnal world. Maybe they are typical but when they get to Shanghai they pretend and act like they are better then everyone.

Just my thoughts - and I'm still damn ugly

by **matchalatte** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:34 am

[quote="Suzy_Xu"][quote="KalanStar"]I think a lot of Chinese, both men and women, need to be educated in simple civility!
In some civilizations it is polite to 'burp' and others it is not ---hmmmm...which ones if I may ask? I know slurping is ok in most of the countries in Asia but burping? Really? How loud?

No more "this is China" BS when a foreigner questions them about or comments on Chinese people's distinct lack of respect for others in public, ie pushing, beeping horns, yelling, spitting etc. These things make laowai think Chinese are a bunch of apes!
Don't agree here as said before some civilizations think burping etc are polite, some don't. this is just Chinese ways and also as the worlds largest population some bad things are never going to be changed. Yes they should but ...... --- Suzy I think you miss the point here. KS is saying that for the sake of integration some of things HAVE to be changed including spitting and all that. I myself can't stand the honking and the spitting the most. I don't think this was the case from way back and you can't argue it from traditional cultral standpoint.

by **Suzy_Xu** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:24 am

matchalatte wrote:Suzy I think you miss the point here. KS is saying that for the sake of integration some of things HAVE to be changed including spitting and all that. I myself can't stand the honking and the spitting the most. I don't think this was the case from way back and you can't argue it from traditional cultral standpoint.[/i][/b]

Am not arguing, just saying that with so many people here it is hard to change and as you know most follow bad examples and few follow good examples. I agree is bad but who know, one day maybe others will start the same hahahahahaha

by **Moroes** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:52 pm

Suzy_Xu wrote:
matchalatte wrote:Suzy I think you miss the point here. KS is saying that for the sake of integration some of things HAVE to be changed including spitting and all that. I myself can't stand the honking and the spitting the most. I don't think this was the case from way back and you can't argue it from traditional cultral standpoint.[/i][/b]

Am not arguing, just saying that with so many people here it is hard to change and as you know most follow bad examples and few follow good examples. I agree is bad but who know, one day maybe others will start the same hahahahahaha

In the West a lot of habit changes have happened because they teach children, like littering is bad. And if a parent litters the kid will scream "Mum/Dad! Don't litter! its bad!" The parent may get shocked but the parents also learns to be a rold model. Now if a Chinese kid did that to his/her Chinese parents in China... A nice beating from the parents would probably happen. How would you expect much change. In the name of FACE. You are not allowed to tell a Senior off. Doesn't matter if you're right.

by **Suzy_Xu** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:03 pm

Moroes wrote:In the West a lot of habit changes have happened because they teach children, like littering is bad. And if a parent litters the kid will scream "Mum/Dad! Don't litter! its bad!" The parent may get shocked but the parents also learns to be a rold model. Now if a Chinese kid did that to his/her Chinese parents in China... A nice beating from the parents would probably happen. How would you expect much change. In the name of FACE. You are not allowed to tell a Senior off. Doesn't matter if you're right.

Yes, so much is wrong here because of FACE. My daughter been raise with best of China and Best of West so she independant and do things for herself and know right from wrong, but when she at kindy she follow all the bad ones so not look out of place. Is so hard to stop

by **KalanStar** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:11 am

The Chinese are known for their worst attributes, being loud, spitting etc. When I talk to anyone in Asia about mainland Chinese, I always hear the same complaints. Then guess who's the one making excuses for Chinese people, I am, and that sucks.

Anyway, more important than manners or the lack thereof, in regard to dating, is the narrow view of the world. We Western guys showing up in china have obviously traveled away from home and are experiencing a foreign culture expanding our understanding of ourselves and our own culture's place in the world, but almost no Chinese has done that, so it's hard to relate with them.

I'm going to see a Korean friend in a couple of days. She's lived in Canada and England. Traveled extensively in Japan and Europe and studied abroad. When I talk to her about my experience in China, she can relate to me better than most Chinese in China who know me just because of her previous experience even though she's never been in China. Because of this, it is easy for me to feel close to her and have a really strong interest in taking to her. In China, I can't find this.

by **Nacirema** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:58 am

^^ HAHA. "Speaking of Chinese girls, I have this international korean girl (I'm surprised you didn't call her hot!) that I'm going to see in a few days"

by **CarrieWang24** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:06 pm

KalanStar wrote:
From these experiences, I can see why Chinese women might be easy to take to bed. If I said: "I like f*cking.", probably they'd respond: "I like f*cking too."

I guess u would prefer they"d respond like this "*******,get out of here,f*cking ur own country women"

:lol:

by **KalanStar** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:56 pm

CarrieWang24 wrote:
KalanStar wrote:
From these experiences, I can see why Chinese women might be easy to take to bed. If I said: "I like f*cking.", probably they'd respond: "I like f*cking too."

I guess u would prefer they"d respond like this "*******,get out of here,f*cking ur own country women"

No, but I wouldn't say it anyway... Now that I think of it, they'd probably reply, "really?... how big is your, um... bank account!?" :lol:

by **CarrieWang24** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:56 pm

KalanStar wrote:
CarrieWang24 wrote:
KalanStar wrote:
From these experiences, I can see why Chinese women might be easy to take to bed. If I said: "I like f*cking.", probably they'd respond: "I like f*cking too."

I guess u would prefer they"d respond like this "*******,get out of here,f*cking ur own country women"

No, but I wouldn't say it anyway... Now that I think of it, they'd probably reply, "really?... how big is your, um... bank account!?"

oh....then hope u dont let them down.... :zzzz::

by **san5324** » Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:45 pm

i dont think chinese women are hard to get to know at all.... if ur attentions are good, it will be very easy...

if u just wanna **** as many girls as u can, they will find out real easily and dont look at u at all.. ( unless u have the gold digger type).. but hey, if that is what u want

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