Justice or just Bernie trying to shake things up in F1??

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2007/8/6594.html

PS Yu feel free to move this topic

i feel sorry for him to loose his pole. I once lost mine but look down and there it was again. rEJOICE.

Did the pole have a work visa? maybe it was deported?

Damn IT! Without the pole....where are the naked ladies going to dance?

I think I need to change nationalities...Sounds like the Polish guys have a better gig!

F1 is a total farce.

Its a grown men's soap opera. And I have no respect for Hamilton now, he is being gifted the WDC. Alonso is a genius. Can't wait to see him at Ferrari soon. A team that would respect and his talent over their own teams nationality.

Brits are losers.

^ "You are only saying that because you hate Britain CLM"

Ah.

Let's wait for the sad fkers to come up with their tiring drivel.

I am just sick of watching F1 and the completely biased British media affecting things. Its so lame, I mean Hamilton is obviously a good driver and has been an amazing story the last year. But its very clear he is now getting great preferential treatment over Alonso, a 2xWDC. This whole weekend was a complete sham the way Ron Dennis (Brit) the team principle fcuked with Alonso's strategy to try and better Hamilton.

Looks like LH was to blame.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/61368

Kimi deserved to win but due to the nature of the track overtaking is down to the pitstops. I agree with CLM on LH getting the better treatment over a 2 x champ. Thats why Alonso is getting pissed with the team who are the most corporate in F1, which makes me want to swing the support his way.

good for the sport.
its like the old days of Senna and Prost.

If it comes down to a whinging competition, which is seems to be heading towards, i'm putting the house on the pom. They would win a whinning competition underwater.

Dazza wrote:Looks like LH was to blame.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/61368

Kimi deserved to win but due to the nature of the track overtaking is down to the pitstops. I agree with CLM on LH getting the better treatment over a 2 x champ. Thats why Alonso is getting pissed with the team who are the most corporate in F1, which makes me want to swing the support his way.

Reading the article one has to wonder about the stewards decision to move Alonso back 5 places. As well as McClaren's refusal to appeal the decision.

Seems it is all a bunch of lies from Ron Dennis, scattered with some truth. The truth being that it was Alonso's turn to have the last flying lap and they changed the plan to benefit Lewis. Alonso just said fcuk it, I am taking the last lap as was his prerogative.

Its sad really, because if Hamilton had won this WDC on merit it would have been the coolest story in a long time.

When was the last time you saw a team principal blow his fcuking stack like that when his driver got pole position and the other was sitting second?

Haha, unreal the favouritism. Alonso has to get out of that team.

That last, pathetic attempt by Dennis to explain what happened is pure and utter bullshiet. Hamilton didn't let Alonso pass, despite orders. Alonso, the cry baby he is, decided to take vengeance.

These pretentious fuqs have egos the size of Texas. But I love watching Takuma Sato. If he could run just one more eurotrash off the road, it makes my day.

Gooooooooooo Super Aguri.

Here's an excerpt from the latest:

Hamilton tells Dennis: Go f*cking swivel!
Mon 06 Aug, 07:23 AM

The full extent of Lewis Hamilton's temporary falling out with McLaren team boss - and long-time mentor - Ron Dennis came to light ahead of the Hungarian Grand Prix, revealing the heated post-qualifying exchange that was the apparent cause of Dennis' headphone-throwing display on pit-wall.

While many guessed that the displeasure was directed at Fernando Alonso, after the Spaniard had blocked Hamilton at the session's final tyre change, analysis of the radio traffic between Dennis and his protégé provided interesting reading for Britain's Sunday newspaper buyers.

"The 22-year-old Brit then swore at Dennis over the team radio, blasting: "Don't ever f****** do that to me again"," reported both News of the World and The Sunday Times.

"Dennis hit back, blasting: "Don't ever f****** speak to me like that."

But Hamilton responded: "Go f****** swivel."

...

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/06082007/ ... wivel.html

that's all i remember from yesterdays race

And this...

now my pole is loose , too

lucar wrote:And this...

That reminds me... I saw a camel the other day bringing in a cart of Watermelons to Judytown. Ferocious looking beast.

What's amazing about this whole scandal is how fcuked over Alonso got, he penalized, and will likely lose the WDC because he was taken off pole, which at Hungary is a basically a guaranteed win, because it is very hard to get the downforce needed to pass on this track.

The stewards, the British f1 media etc all crucified Alonso, even headlines on F1 calling him an outright Cheater!!! Now it is clear that it was Hamilton who tried to change the drivers strategy despite team protocol which switches each race to make it fair for both drivers. And it was the team who held him on his pit stop!!! Not him trying to cheat at all.

So the media, the stewards and the FIA all owe Alonso a huge apology and should probably penalize Hamilton, but it will never never never ever happen to a British driver. EVER.

In fact, today top headline on Planet F1 is "McClaren Tell Alonso He Can Leave."

Haha, what a farce this sport is. I long for the days of Champ Car, top international drivers, actual passing and interesting race courses.

McLaren is spelt like that, not like McClaren.

anyone who wastes their time watching a motor racing sport where you can't even overtake, gets what they deserve

Swiss-James wrote:anyone who wastes their time watching a motor racing sport where you can't even overtake, gets what they deserve

Alonso has every right to be pissed off IMO, He will probaly leave seeing as Renault and BMW have expressed an interest in him. The sport is fast becoming a farce thats why MotoGP rocks. Anyway on the positive side, I have read for the first time in the upcoming Shanghai GP ticket holders will be allowed onto the track post race. Even though a bunch of drunk expats are more likely to hop the fence during it...

cry boo Brits are "losers" and me hate them and Hamilton is stupid and rubbish and everything is unfair.

CLM you really should leave there, you are getting developing country syndrome. Have syou stopped washing your hands after a piss and worrying about whether you'll get good quality rice when you leave China?

So Ron Dennis had a go at LH but he still favours him?

LH and FA both did wrong - but LH disobeying orders is not the same as FA literally blocking him in the pits. So it's FA's fault for cheating badly. Literally speaking LH didn't cheat. Though he was in the wrong. And I am biased, of course.


BUT:

Facts: LH won the race. So fvk you everyone else. Losers moan. Winners get blowjobs.

Saying the sport is a "farce" is just silly. In every sport, there are usually teams that win most. In football, people always complain that refs give more decisions to the top teams.

Then people say "it wasn't like in my day when everyone was honest and the players got the team bus home with the fans after the game and you could go round your neighbour's for a cup of sugar and leave your door open and no one would rob you..."


As soon as you start moaning about how things 'aren't like they were' = YOU HAVE FINALLY GOTTEN OLD!!!!

Haha, welcome back Nick-la. So the spoilt brat made his return to SHEX after now having found a love for sport.

I will not begrudge you the new young handsome (we all know this is the most important factor for you in a sports hero) brit and his championship. It takes a national hero to bring one into this sport. It was the great Gilles Villeneuve and his equally great son that did it for me. So i dont want to squash your dreams and hopes in one post.

Despite true greats, like the Villeneuves, having won races and WDC on skill and merit, not all championships can be decided this way....i know....especially English ones.

But you need to understand, one Senior Alonso, did not cheat. He was told to wait in the pits by his team and his engineers. After having to succumb to the cheating of his teammate.....yes....your hero....the great....and wonderful....British.....xiao Hamilton.

And no amount of English grandeur can change that.

No trust me, i really wanted and hoped that Hamilton could have been the story of this F1 season. I like him, i like his driving, i admire a rookie and underdog enter a sport and overtaking a champion on equal ground.....and winning. It is great, amazing and wonderful.

Unfortunately.....thanks to your wonderful media....its great stewards (employed by your English billionaire) what i would have considered to be an amazing achievement in a year of sports greats...Barry Bonds for one...to have been the greatest....is now....sadly....Tainted.

Old, yes i am aging. And i admire a time when great young drivers like Jacques Villeneuve stepped up and beat great champion teammates, like Damon Hill (sorry, i know...he was English and shouldnt be mentioned in the same breath) and amazing competitors...like Michael Schumacher and did it with merit, strength, and by being daring and fair.

I guess.....great winners like that....can't come along in every generation.

So enjoy.

I wont begrudge you that.....enjoy.

Yeah, Schumi was as fair as Chinese distribution of wealth.

So just because LH was over-aggresive (just like Schumacher), he has ruined his whole story? He still won all the other races on merit, and by merit - is still an amazing driver, one of the best. If Bernie put you in a car then no matter of favours would help.

Anyway. Slightly pointless discussion.

There was a time when a KKK gathering was the only occasion 21 white guys would be chasing the black guy!

Kind of switching sports, but did anyone see the Dario Franchitti crash at last weeks indy cars!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du2A7jnqWz0