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Postby underh20 » Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:40 pm

kate84 wrote:Thanks underh20! It all sounds very complicated...

I don't think I'd be able to wire money from BOC then, because I don't get tax receipts... and I get paid in cash, not by direct deposit... so changing rmb to gbp at the bank would be...unlikely i guess.

how about changing money using those guys with the bags that hang around outside? is that really sketchy? i take it they won't want to see tax receipts.

i guess western union is looking to be the most useable way to get my money home.

a friend of mine mentioned a post office in xujiahui that can wire money to a foreign bank account for like 90rmb or something. have you heard of this?

and i don't really understand the bankers draft thing. wouldn't i need a bank of china UK account to get one? or can i get one from my bank of china account here, then send it to my UK account? i look on the bank of china UK website but couldn't find much about it...

thanks again for your help!


Even with Western Union and getting a BOC demand draft, you still need the documentation mentioned to first exchange your RMB into GBP.

The post office you mentioned is a Western Union agent. Most post offices are and so are most branches of Agricultural Bank of China.

With a bankers draft you don't need an account in BOC UK. You can cash the check in any bank in the UK subject to whatever national check clearing rules you have there. In the US, for example, there is a hold for up to 5 days while the check is clearing.

The black market money changers can be a viable option, but there is some risk involved. You can mitigate the risk of getting counterfeit currency, but there is a chance -- probably quite slim -- that the police catch you and then you have a big problem. Maybe someone here can recommend a reputable black market contact for you.
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Postby Humac » Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:05 pm

underh20 wrote:Unfortunately, things are back to normal -- well, whatever you want to term normal.

Suspected that might be the case. It couldn't be that easy all the time. Similar relaxations during next year's Expo maybe?
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Postby underh20 » Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:03 pm

^ Let's hope so!
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Banking Stuff

Postby Kevin23 » Thu May 07, 2009 4:18 pm

Okay, i need to open a bank account over here so that I can pay my rent...What do I need to do this. I'm on a multi-entry-Visa from South Africa. Will just my passport be good enough to open this account?
Oh, r the local banks reliable, or should I opt for a CitiBank...

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Postby Cylon » Thu May 07, 2009 4:29 pm

1. You don't actually need a bank account to make a transfer to a local account (for your rent)

2. Better choose a local bank, foreign banks have higher maintenance fees/minimum balance and have very limited branch/ATM networks.
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Postby RussianBear » Thu May 07, 2009 4:38 pm

underh20 wrote:^ Let's hope so!


Hi Under, we miss you ! Welcome back !

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Postby Kevin23 » Thu May 07, 2009 4:41 pm

Yeah, but cant do internet banking from an offshore account...maybe this is just a South African requirement, however it would be nice to have a local account anyways....would avoid me paying like 25% bank charges on cash widrawals....
Oh, and the passport...is that adequate enough to open an account.....which is the best Chinese bank to use?

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Postby Chrisse » Thu May 07, 2009 6:31 pm

RussianBear wrote:
underh20 wrote:^ Let's hope so!


Hi Under, we miss you ! Welcome back !
That post was about a month ago dude...
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Postby RussianBear » Thu May 07, 2009 6:37 pm

Oooops..
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Postby Reggin » Thu May 07, 2009 6:54 pm

RussianBear wrote:Oooops..

Welcome back to Earth, Bear
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Postby hundan » Thu May 21, 2009 1:39 am

I am back in England for a bit. Let me confirm: the China UnionPay card can be used in the 5 citibank ATM's in London, incl the Hanover Sq ones near Oxford Street. But the agreement to roll out CUP card use to all ATMs in the LINK network has not been implemented yet. I know the website said that it woudl be early in 2009, but I phoned the LINK in England and they said it hasn't been actioned yet, and all they can say is that it will happen later this year, and the announcement will be on their website. So there are 5 locations in the UK where you can withdraw money on a CUP card - all in London.
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Postby hundan » Sun Jul 26, 2009 8:38 am

This link http://en.chinaunionpay.com/news/newsro ... 54670.html shows that CUP cards will be activated in all LINK ATMs in the UK in the third quarter of 2009 - and that covers 99% of ATMs in the UK. It hasn't happened yet, but should happen within two months.
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Postby hundan » Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:52 am

It works now. CUP cards can be used in all LINK machines in the UK. I made a withdrawal today in Lincolnshire.
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How to handle major income in China

Postby doo69 » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:56 pm

I'm working in Shanghai for a European company with local management. I have a very low basic salary for an expat - however, my commission and bonus (over sales) are extremely good. I'm about to close some major deals, and will have significant income, which will be paid in several installments over the next two years. At the moment I'm employed by this company with a standard Chinese contract, and I have a separate agreement signed and chopped for the commission/bonus scheme. I'm considering how to handle this regarding:

- best way to receive $$ (as employee or use a company I have setup in HK)
- tax
- sending $$ abroad if needed
- investing

Any input will be appreciated.
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Postby DrShanghai » Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:25 am

Hk bank account would be the best way to receive, you don't need to set up a company personal account works fine. No currency controls.
This is what my friend does, very similar situation. It works well for him.
If you get paid to HK account no taxes at the HK end, but China will want tax, and your home country too.
I will not get into that end of it.
You can use the ATM card any where in the world.
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Postby doo69 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:31 am

Thanks for the input DrShanghai. I'm employed by the Shanghai branch of the company, but I guess they could find a way of paying me in HK.
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Re: Banking & Credit

Postby hitmen » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:00 pm

I dont get it. what advantage do you get if you pay taxes at the US end and at the china end?
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Re: Banking & Credit

Postby cmu69 » Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:58 pm

I have savings account in bank of china and i have recently activated my online banking.
Now when i tried to transfer money to some other bank in other province, i could not understand to details required to be filled over there.I am from Shenyang.
Please help me !
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Re: Banking & Credit

Postby best1 » Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:53 pm

cmu69 wrote:i could not understand to details required to be filled over there.I am from Shenyang.
Please help me !


So, you (Chinese) post on expats forum and ask help for internet banking with Bank of China ? :lol:
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Re: Banking & Credit

Postby fulltrack » Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:20 pm

best1 wrote:
cmu69 wrote:i could not understand to details required to be filled over there.I am from Shenyang.
Please help me !


So, you (Chinese) post on expats forum and ask help for internet banking with Bank of China ? :lol:


^^ And you are a Mongol who believes all foreigners living in Shanghai or what?
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Re: Banking & Credit

Postby best1 » Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:29 pm

Fullcrack, sorry, i don't understand the mix of Mongolian-German language.
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Re: Banking & Credit

Postby fulltrack » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:21 pm

best1 wrote:Fullcrack, sorry, i don't understand the mix of Mongolian-German language.


and I don't know what the fruck you mean with German language, jzzzzzz...... grow up.
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Re: Banking & Credit

Postby best1 » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:45 pm

fulltrack wrote:
best1 wrote:Fullcrack, sorry, i don't understand the mix of Mongolian-German language.


and I don't know what the fruck you mean with German language, jzzzzzz...... grow up.


Sorry if i was wrong about your German part. :lol: 100% Chingiskhan, are you ?
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Re: Banking & Credit

Postby fulltrack » Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:01 pm

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bestloser1 wrote:Fullcrack, sorry, i don't understand the mix of Mongolian-German language.


and I don't know what the fruck you mean with German language, jzzzzzz...... grow up.


Sorry if i was wrong about your German part. :lol: 100% Chingiskhan, are you ?

You don't know nothing about me bestloser1 and i even don't give a fart what you think :lol: :lol:
Whatever you wanna think is right. :lol: :lol:
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Re: Banking & Credit

Postby fulltrack » Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:03 pm

overagedho20 wrote:
dullcrack wrote:
best1 wrote:
cmu69 wrote:i could not understand to details required to be filled over there.I am from Shenyang.
Please help me !


So, you (Chinese) post on expats forum and ask help for internet banking with Bank of China ? :lol:


^^ And you are a Mongol who believes all foreigners living in Shanghai or what?


Good old DullCrack, out defending his fellow pig farmers.


Hi overagedho20 are you already done with j*rking when you see your mum in the pig farm?
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Postby best1 » Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:08 pm

FullCrack wrote:You don't know nothing about me bestloser1 and i even don't give a fart what you think :lol: :lol: Whatever you wanna think is right. :lol: :lol:


Anyway, seems if you have something German. :lol:
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Re: Banking & Credit

Postby best1 » Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:12 pm

overh20 wrote:Good old DullCrack, out defending his fellow pig farmers.


Hi Over.. no worries.. it's the "dog's work" - guard pig farms. Usually he bark don't bite. :roll:

JUST KIDDING.
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Re: Banking & Credit

Postby fulltrack » Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:13 pm

overh20 wrote:
dullcrack wrote:
overagedho20 wrote:
dullcrack wrote:
best1 wrote:
cmu69 wrote:i could not understand to details required to be filled over there.I am from Shenyang.
Please help me !


So, you (Chinese) post on expats forum and ask help for internet banking with Bank of China ? :lol:


^^ And you are a Mongol who believes all foreigners living in Shanghai or what?


Good old DullCrack, out defending his fellow pig farmers.


Hi overagedho20 are you already done with j*rking when you see your mum in the pig farm?


It's when I see your mom. And you can go out and buy yourself a new girl pigglet to fondle with son since I tipped your mom 5 kuai because she didn't spit this time.


Yeah i know, she is also good looking, thanks for the tip :wink:
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Re: Banking & Credit

Postby KalanStar » Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:14 pm

^^And "The Stupid Flame War" of the year award goes to these 3 losers! :lol:
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Re: Banking & Credit

Postby fulltrack » Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:15 pm

best1 wrote:
FullCrack wrote:You don't know nothing about me bestloser1 and i even don't give a fart what you think :lol: :lol: Whatever you wanna think is right. :lol: :lol:


Anyway, seems if you have something German. :lol:

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