Looks like they are interrogating his right hand man, Wang Lijun, right now.

http://insideoutchina.blogspot.com/2012 ... ulate.html

Interesting, thanks for posting it.

How can a Chinese citizen expect to gain asylum in a US embassy within China?

This is not possible by definition since you cannot seek asylum in your own country. If Wang had tried to claim some sort of status at the US embassy it would have to have been as an "internally displaced person", defined as "Someone who has been forced from his/her home for refugee-like reasons, but remains within the borders of his/her own country". I cannot imagine a police chief being able to legitimately claim this status.

There's chatter in the US blogosphere about Obama's government bungling this by refusing Wang's request for asylum. Absolute hogwash proposed by mental midgets. Wang doesn't qualify for asylum under anyone's definition.

rickettyrabbit wrote:Interesting, thanks for posting it.

How can a Chinese citizen expect to gain asylum in a US embassy within China?

This is not possible by definition since you cannot seek asylum in your own country. If Wang had tried to claim some sort of status at the US embassy it would have to have been as an "internally displaced person", defined as "Someone who has been forced from his/her home for refugee-like reasons, but remains within the borders of his/her own country". I cannot imagine a police chief being able to legitimately claim this status.

There's chatter in the US blogosphere about Obama's government bungling this by refusing Wang's request for asylum. Absolute hogwash proposed by mental midgets. Wang doesn't qualify for asylum under anyone's definition.

IIts a tricky one. It is commonly thought that an Embassy's soil is sovereign territory of the country concerned but it actualy isn't. However the host country cannot enter. There are cases in the past where people have sought asylum in their own country but its unusual and usually solved by negotiation rather than by international law.

rickettyrabbit wrote:
How can a Chinese citizen expect to gain asylum in a US embassy within China?

This is not possible by definition since you cannot seek asylum in your own country.

Fang Lizhi was granted asylum after entering US embassy in Beijing and stayed in the embassy for a year, before he got out of the country in 1990.

It appears to violate US policy, so it must have been (and in the case of Fang and his wife, was) a special case. I can't imagine the same exception being made for a former chief of police.

The official line is that Wang Lijun did indeed enter the US Consulate but it was on "official business" in his capacity as deputy mayor of Chongqing. He is also said to have re-emerged of his own accord.

However he has now been relocated to an undisclosed location.

This is interesting, coming just a day or two before Xi Jinping's visit to the USA. I wonder whether the two events could be related, and if so, how?

There has also been speculation elsewhere about whether Xi Jinping really does have the succession sewn up. Could this be a pre-emptive strike by the Xi camp against Bo Xilai, who despite not being a current member of the Standing Committee, could nevertheless have constituted a threat to Xi, thanks to the powerful influence of hardline Communist old-guarders allied behind him?

Wang Lijun wrote a letter saying that if Bo XiLi was put on the Standing Committee it would destroy China. He also said that if his letter were published he'd either be dead or in secret detention. He was right.

Great Article:
Scandal May Topple Party Official in China
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/17/world ... ted=1&_r=1

Bo xilai is so dead, I am just waiting to see how Zhou yongkang and Jiang zemin would end up

Don't worry about Jiang. With his special eyeglasses he'll see them coming before they can get anywhere near him.

^not if his enemy is Hu jintao.
Some believe it's Hu's scheme that Wang lijun ran over to American embassy, make a scene, and destroy Bo&Zhou's scheme of replacing Xi jinping.

they all seem pretty desperate now.

Nothing can escape detection when you're wearing these . . . x 2

THATCAT wrote:^not if his enemy is Hu jintao.
Some believe it's Hu's scheme that Wang lijun ran over to American embassy, make a scene, and destroy Bo&Zhou's scheme of replacing Xi jinping.

they all seem pretty desperate now.

general consensus is that Hu is from a different faction than Xi Jin Ping...

haha!
I just had to dig this post out and prove myself right... Bo Xilai is for real dead, well not literally(yet).

blairmcphase wrote:

THATCAT wrote:^not if his enemy is Hu jintao.
Some believe it's Hu's scheme that Wang lijun ran over to American embassy, make a scene, and destroy Bo&Zhou's scheme of replacing Xi jinping.

they all seem pretty desperate now.

general consensus is that Hu is from a different faction than Xi Jin Ping...

that's right, Xi wasn't faction of Hu until he was told about Bo's plan.

This is the story of Bore
A dynasty not unlike those of yore
Who achieved in their hour
Great riches and power
By hubris is their empire no more

Bore I was a revolutionary star
With the nation’s great heroes on par
Righting all wrongs
While singing Mao songs
The people knew that he would go far

Bore II rose to power with deceit
Determined to intrigue and cheat
He made himself chief
Of his own personal fief
A shoo-in for Politburo seat

Bore III on his father depends
With an educational fund, never ends
For nightclub and party
And a bright red Ferrari
Throwing money, he bought himself friends

Popularism and nostaligia were the glue
That held fast the empire of Bore II
His hunger for power
Grew more by the hour
Yet few but his police chief knew

His master’s trust and distrust he had earned
In desperation, to Americans he turned
He feared for his life
As the wages of strife
In vain: by law he was spurned

For Beijing this was great loss of face
Bore II was dismissed in disgrace
Grandpa Wen was in tears
As he yelled in his ears
“Say goodbye to that Politburo place”

Bore II, now imprisoned by walls
May wonder what fate then befalls
In prison for years?
A shot twixt the ears?
It is thus that his empire falls

For Bore III, one may now enquire
Whether he will meet the fate of his sire
No more partying all night
Until the dawn light
From the circuit he must now retire

^^Excellent!

Was that translated or is it original? I'm betting that with a catchy tune, it could become a big seller in China.

Nothing new under the Moon:
Tzars Promise Heavens in Russia,
Dynasties change Dynasties in China,
USAWarMongersJewishLobby seeks fresh blood.

RB, you aren't a zionist, are you?

Rumors in the west that the military is getting involved in the leadership struggle in an active way in Beijing. Anyone in Beijing confirm this?

Online rumour fills information void in jittery China
By Marianne Barriaux (AFP) – 4 hours ago

BEIJING — Groundless rumours of a coup that have swept Beijing in recent days are a sign of nervousness after the sacking of political star Bo Xilai exposed rifts in China's ruling Communist Party, analysts say.

Bo had been tipped to join an elite group of leaders who effectively run China later this year, and his downfall -- announced last week in a brief official dispatch -- is the biggest drama to hit the Communist Party in years.

But the news has been only lightly covered by China's tightly controlled state media, opening the way for lurid online speculation involving a crashed Ferrari, gunshots and even tanks rolling into central Beijing.

"People are nervous, there's not much information available," Bo Zhiyue, an expert on Chinese elite politics at the National University of Singapore, said Thursday.

"They are hungry for new information, and if there's nothing new, they will make up new information."
Bo, a flamboyant member of the Politburo -- which groups the 25 most powerful politicians in China -- was removed as party chief of the southwestern metropolis of Chongqing last Thursday.

His sacking came weeks after his former right-hand man and police chief Wang Lijun reportedly tried to defect to the United States in a dramatic event that remains shrouded in mystery.

The incident sparked speculation about Bo's future, but his sacking still came as a shock, as the party normally likes to maintain an appearance of unity, which it believes is crucial to preserving stability in China.

The state-run Xinhua news agency -- which reported the news -- gave no reason for Bo's ouster.

So far, the only official information on the subject has come from a brief statement by Li Yuanchao, a powerful party leader, last Thursday that gave no concrete information about the reason why Bo was dismissed.

Since then, rumours -- all of them unverifiable and most of them highly implausible -- have emerged to fill the void of official information.

Rumours of a military coup orchestrated by security czar Zhou Yongkang against some of the top leaders are perhaps the most fanciful.

These emerged earlier this week when netizens started reporting on microblogs that there were tanks on one of Beijing's main thoroughfares and that they had heard gunshots.

Security in the capital has not visibly increased.

An apparently official document that was posted online, alleging that one of Bo's family members was being investigated for corruption before he was sacked, has been given more credence.

The document -- allegedly compiled by the party's highest authority -- reveals Bo reportedly turned on Wang when the latter broke news of the probe to him, prompting Wang's escape to a US consulate to request asylum.

Even a deadly Ferrari crash in the capital has sparked intense speculation over the identity of the driver, after reports of the incident were censored online.

David Kelly, research director at analysis group China Policy, said top authorities were likely trying to contain the effects of Bo's dismissal -- and the rumours.

"The problem is to deal with the aftershocks -- the sudden emotional swings of the public mind," he said.

Search terms such as "gunshot", "tank", "Bo Xilai", "Wang Lijun", Bo's son "Bo Guagua" or his wife "Gu Kailai" have all been censored on Sina.com's popular microblog, or weibo.

"All this is saying that the factional struggle has now burst into the open," said Willy Lam, a China expert at the Chinese University of Hong Kong.

tylerdurden wrote:Search terms such as "gunshot", "tank", "Bo Xilai", "Wang Lijun", Bo's son "Bo Guagua" or his wife "Gu Kailai" have all been censored on Sina.com's popular microblog, or weibo.

Seems Western Media bullshitting again.

You're right - what does Western media know? Compared to Eastern media, it doesn't have the final word on anything, let alone everything!

Hm this sounds like yet another opportunity for the Party to demonstrate how to botch Public intercourse, I mean Relations.

Seriously. Hire a guy. Da Shan or somebody.

Shinbone wrote:You're right - what does Western media know?

What to say ?

Did you heard what "Journalism Is The Second Most Ancient Profession After Prostitution ?"

bus3 wrote:Rumors in the west that the military is getting involved in the leadership struggle in an active way in Beijing. Anyone in Beijing confirm this?

Yea Zhou yongkang is so dead as well.

let's wait and see what will happen...

and this morning I just read on baidu news that China is going to stop using prisoners' organ, this is really something. after all the years of "bloody harvest", now they decided to stop, right after they nailed Bo xilai.
so it's for real that they get organs from people that are alive.
I'm traumatised!

After assuming this story i made conclusion what it's "questionable"
to buy Ferrary for own son in the country with median income 300 euro.
Modesty is virtue.

Eary.Bird wrote:

Shinbone wrote:You're right - what does Western media know?

What to say ?

Did you heard what "Journalism Is The Second Most Ancient Profession After Prostitution ?"

no I think dictatorship is the first most Ancient Profession in this country, Prostitution comes second.

THATCAT wrote:no I think dictatorship is the first most Ancient Profession in this country, Prostitution comes second.

Of course, we can't demand from a cat understanding differense between "political regim" and "profession", but at least, every animal understand where is better for them, in "Democartic Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, etc" or "Communistic China", right ?