Tried to go over to the Brasa Chicken in Jin Qiao today and it's shut down. I also hear the one in JinAn is gone?

Anyone know what's going on with this restaurant? Finish in Shanghai or regrouping

Terrible service too - ordered the other night for the first time took them 1 hour 45 min to deliver and they also managed to deliver the wrong order...

Not ordering again....seems i am not the only one if they're all shutting down

greeneyedlady wrote:Tried to go over to the Brasa Chicken in Jin Qiao today and it's shut down. I also hear the one in JinAn is gone?

Anyone know what's going on with this restaurant? Finish in Shanghai or regrouping

I hope the latter, because while I only ordered it a few times, it was a good amount of reasonably high quality food at equally reasonable value.

Perhaps the usual Shanghai business f*ck up of quickly declining standards and trying to expand too fast. When the first branch opened there were lots of positive reviews on here. All I seem to read now are complaints about slow/incorrect deliveries.

That is such a shame... I loved their roast chicken and potatoes.

I stopped ordering from them about a month or so ago, that time being the second time the food was no good. I loved it back when it first came out, but as of recent weeks/months, the taste of the chicken just got worse.

Looks like another VARGAS story, very good start - brilliant food and a couple of month down the road the food quality and service turns to crap! XxxX

Doubled edge sword, dumping a lot of promotion into the forum at start up and now they are a topic so their issues are now news.

XxxX wrote:Looks like another VARGAS story, very good start - brilliant food and a couple of month down the road the food quality and service turns to crap! XxxX

Unfortunately it is quite common in Shanghai, not only Vargas Group (although maybe he is even worse!)

What a pity, I liked the concept and the chicken was really tasty at the beginning...

I thought the food and value were good, sad to see this happen (whatever is happening)

Considering they JUST opened their branch in Jing'An, I would guess legal problems instead of money problems

So, Beijing Ducks won over Brasa Chicken ... because of the price, i guess ?

Usually i pay only 40+ rmb for full duck ... how much it was for Chicken, 100 rmb+ ?


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What is this Beijing Ducks thing? I love Beijing Duck but seems there aren't too many good ones in Shanghai.

There is a GREAT one in Shanghai. As good as Da Dong (or whatever it's called in BJ).

Restaurant called Nanling (although i don't think it's even written in English). YueYang Lu, near YongJia lu (Think that's it, the one that's parallel with Jianguo). Right next door to People 6 bar. It's a building, set off the street with lots of parking in front.

Seriously VERY good duck. Best i've had.

Roast duck/roast chicken/white chicken..
local place zhenning lu/corner yuyuan lu...only to go, beside their restaurant Golden 360
they ran out of goods by 5...long lines, best barbecues IMHO

So unsurprising. I knew it would turn out this way.

How hard can it be to run a chicken delivery business? You take the order. You make the chicken. You give it to the delivery guy. He delivers it. Only utter morons would not be able to do this.

I often order from Commando Chicken via Mealbay. Never had a problem. Brasa's food was just as good but the Mealbay delivery service made Commando the obvious choice.

carlon78 wrote:So unsurprising. I knew it would turn out this way.

How hard can it be to run a chicken delivery business? You take the order. You make the chicken. You give it to the delivery guy. He delivers it. Only utter morons would not be able to do this.

When you opening?

Going GOING GONE
All Brasa Stores are now officially closed. The Big Man known to his friends as Fat Eddy has stopped all killing, culling and cooking of the poultry and will relax at the gym for awhile until his next big idea of world wide domination or something to do with food takes shape
He is opening a new Cacsha bar in Pudong near Thumb Plaza in the newt few weeks, just hope he doest "big this up" too much or it may go the same way as his Brasa Bird....

I watched a doc on a Chinese business man who opened a very successful dumpling restaurant in Dalian. Within a year it was the most popular place for dumplings in the city, so he decided to open a second. It too was also very successful. So, 6 months later he decided to become the biggest dumpling chain in Dalian opening 7 new restaurants. His partner thought it was a bad idea and left over majority owner's expansion plan. So they expanded. After 6 months their reputation was ruined and they closed 6 of the new restaurants at a considerable loss. Now they have 3 outlets and the ex-partner has returned and business is good again.

So what happened? Well, the typical Chinese lack of work ethic got in the way. The owner couldn't be in all locations often enough and the staff just slacked off, f*cked the dog, slept on the counters, spent their time text messaging etc. etc. I don't know how many times I've been told by Chinese friends and colleagues; "Today is an easy day." "Why?" I ask. "Oh the boss isn't in the office so we don't have to do anything." The Chinese are better suited to slavery than independent labor. Now if Brasa could get slaves, they'd be a roaring success!

KalanStar wrote:
So what happened? Well, the typical Chinese lack of work ethic got in the way. The owner couldn't be in all locations often enough and the staff just slacked off, f*cked the dog, slept on the counters, spent their time text messaging etc. etc. I don't know how many times I've been told by Chinese friends and colleagues; "Today is an easy day." "Why?" I ask. "Oh the boss isn't in the office so we don't have to do anything." The Chinese are better suited to slavery than independent labor. Now if Brasa could get slaves, they'd be a roaring success!

So typical. I'm working in Singapore this week, and the office is a breath of fresh air. No background soundtrack of QQ beeps. No calculators decorated with crystals and Hello Kitty. No stench of fish from the communal kitchen. People dressed for work and not the nightclub. People who actually look as if they're working and enjoying what they do. Toilet bins that don't look like a gorilla has haemhorraged in them. No dregs of tea leaves clogging the sink. No shrieking ayi. No jabbering phonecalls (WEI? Ah ah ah. Mm mm mm. Ng ng ng. Hao hao hao. BAI BAI".

carlon78 wrote:

KalanStar wrote:
So what happened? Well, the typical Chinese lack of work ethic got in the way. The owner couldn't be in all locations often enough and the staff just slacked off, f*cked the dog, slept on the counters, spent their time text messaging etc. etc. I don't know how many times I've been told by Chinese friends and colleagues; "Today is an easy day." "Why?" I ask. "Oh the boss isn't in the office so we don't have to do anything." The Chinese are better suited to slavery than independent labor. Now if Brasa could get slaves, they'd be a roaring success!

So typical. I'm working in Singapore this week, and the office is a breath of fresh air. No background soundtrack of QQ beeps. No calculators decorated with crystals and Hello Kitty. No stench of fish from the communal kitchen. People dressed for work and not the nightclub. People who actually look as if they're working and enjoying what they do. Toilet bins that don't look like a gorilla has haemhorraged in them. No dregs of tea leaves clogging the sink. No shrieking ayi. No jabbering phonecalls (WEI? Ah ah ah. Mm mm mm. Ng ng ng. Hao hao hao. BAI BAI".

Serious LOL

The QQ beeps drove me fcuking mental in my last workplace. None of my Chinese colleagues cared about it seemingly (unsurprisingly), which fits my theory that Chinese are addicted to noise.

carlon78 wrote:So typical. I'm working in Singapore this week, and the office is a breath of fresh air. No background soundtrack of QQ beeps. No calculators decorated with crystals and Hello Kitty. No stench of fish from the communal kitchen. People dressed for work and not the nightclub. People who actually look as if they're working and enjoying what they do. Toilet bins that don't look like a gorilla has haemhorraged in them. No dregs of tea leaves clogging the sink. No shrieking ayi. No jabbering phonecalls (WEI? Ah ah ah. Mm mm mm. Ng ng ng. Hao hao hao. BAI BAI".

On the negative side you have to tolerate what has to be the most annoying accent in the world - Singlish, ok la cannot la can la etc etc.

Found the following on Smart Shanghai home page just now...


Brasa Chicken's four locations in Shanghai have closed en masse. We talked to an unidentified manager at one of those places, who offered that they'd be closed for two months. Take that how you will. The Vargas
empire, however, taking defeat in stride, is opening up another bar / restaurant in Pudong. Two floors: bar / lounge on the first floor (rum, cacasha, Spanish music) and a 40-seat eatery on the second. Opening in November.

chingiskhan wrote:
On the negative side you have to tolerate what has to be the most annoying accent in the world - Singlish, ok la cannot la can la etc etc.

No ****! So that's what the "can" thing is! A guy was asking me about something today, and when I told him I was able to complete a task, he said "Ah, ok. Can, can, can, la." Now it all makes sense!

I thought it was 'ken' and seems to translate as Yes or OK sort of.

carlon78 wrote:

chingiskhan wrote:
On the negative side you have to tolerate what has to be the most annoying accent in the world - Singlish, ok la cannot la can la etc etc.

No ****! So that's what the "can" thing is! A guy was asking me about something today, and when I told him I was able to complete a task, he said "Ah, ok. Can, can, can, la." Now it all makes sense!

Apologies to any Singaporeans, I just find the accent so painful to listen to. If you don't listen carefully it's not recognisable as English at all. They say stuff like:

"Eh, borrow me $5 today, tomorrow I return you, can or not?"

For God's sake!!!

chingiskhan wrote:
Apologies to any Singaporeans, I just find the accent so painful to listen to. If you don't listen carefully it's not recognisable as English at all. They say stuff like:

"Eh, borrow me $5 today, tomorrow I return you, can or not?"

For God's sake!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48dBnQDxPUw

Enjoy .... specially "big cock, medium coke .. "

chingiskhan wrote:Apologies to any Singaporeans, I just find the accent so painful to listen to. If you don't listen carefully it's not recognisable as English at all. They say stuff like:

"Eh, borrow me $5 today la, tomorrow I return you la, can or not la?"

For God's sake!!!

Fixed...

Last year I was in Shenzhen taking a bus to HK downtown, the guy next to me was on the phone the full 1,5 hours saying nothing but
"Kap, kap.... kap kap kap kap ... kap kap kaaaaaap, kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap..... kap kap kap kap kap kap,, kap kap kap... kap kap kap... kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap .................. kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap ka............... kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap........ kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap ,..................kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap kap "

It's Thai for 'yes' I believe. I was totally going insane..

TIC wrote:Last year I was in Shenzhen taking a bus to HK downtown, the guy next to me was on the phone the full 1,5 hours saying nothing but
"Kap "

It's Thai for 'yes' I believe. I was totally going insane..

By the way, about kap's mean: ...

krap' and 'ka' These words do not have any meaning - they are put at the end of sentences to make them sound polite. They will therefore often drop the 'r' ('kap' instead or 'krap').

http://www.knowphuket.com/thai_language.htm