Building my own PC, where to buy new parts

by **heyitschili** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:18 pm

Hey all, I am going to build my own computer rig here and I was wondering where the best place in town (or online) to buy new parts for it would be. I have used NewEgg in the US in the past, and I know they have a Chinese variant, but it doesn't seem to be as extensive in terms of PC hardware.

I know the electronics market on Xiangyang has computer parts, but I'm looking for new stuff.

MediaMarkt? Never been, not sure about that.

Anybody have suggestions, they'd be much appreciated.

by **findus** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:29 pm

You can usually find a decent range of stuff across Newegg China and 360buy. I was able to put together a decent rig finding (almost) every specific item I wanted using just these two.

by **ATP** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:42 pm

Congratulations--you're undertaking one of the most frustrating things I ever had to do, and started from scratch. In putting my machine together, I didn't do the actual, physical construction--I did all the enormous research, evaluation and selection of the components.

To answer you directly, the place often recommended is:
Bai Nao Hui
cao xi bei road
上海市漕溪北路
cao xi bei lu

It is opposite Oriental Shopping Centre (Dong Fang Sheng Xia), on the same side as Mei Luo Cheng (the place with the large glass ball above KFC in Xu Jia Hui). There are now 2 Bai Nao Hui, 1 & 2, you can try both of them. If you are dealing with these chaps, you'll need to be able to speak a particularly good Chinese, or have a Chinese friend accompany you. It will help if you have your configuration ("pei zhi") to take along with you.Do a lot of research on pricing, to help you avoid getting ripped off.

by **jzzzzzzz** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:50 pm

It's obviously up to you but I would recommend 360buy over anywhere at Xujiahui. Cheap prices, no rip offs, you can return anything if there is a problem blah blah blah.

by **jeffinflorida** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:22 pm

I have bought from newegg in the US and here in China. They do ok.

http://www.newegg.com.cn/

by **asnu07** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:36 pm

Hi,
try the IT malls on ZhangYang Rd. / Pudong Nan Rd. in Pudong. (ShangCheng Rd. Exit Line 9 is closest).
Especially in the upper levels they sell everything you could ask for (CPUs, vents, memory,...)
Happy shopping!
A.

by **ATP** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:43 pm

OP, try and avoid the (likely) shills such as this.

by **findus** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:32 pm

findus wrote:You can usually find a decent range of stuff across Newegg China and 360buy. I was able to put together a decent rig finding (almost) every specific item I wanted using just these two.

I take it back, stay well clear of Newegg.

by **LtSaw** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:11 pm

taobao

by **Danielm103** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:46 pm

asnu07 wrote:Hi,
try the IT malls on ZhangYang Rd. / Pudong Nan Rd. in Pudong. (ShangCheng Rd. Exit Line 9 is closest).
Especially in the upper levels they sell everything you could ask for (CPUs, vents, memory,...)
Happy shopping!
A.

this is where I go, its hard to find the latest and greatest though.
be prepared to haggle

by **faust-of-winter** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:41 pm

jzzzzzzz wrote:It's obviously up to you but I would recommend 360buy over anywhere at Xujiahui. Cheap prices, no rip offs, you can return anything if there is a problem blah blah blah.

Agree. Getting stuffs from 360buy is much easier than dealing with them local sales. Plus 360buy is cheaper and they do deliver quite fast. I ordered a b/w laser printer from them around 4pm, and it arrived 10am next day. 799rmb, now that's a steal.

I've built several pcs here in SH, unless I'm in an urgent situation and knows exactly what I'm going to get, I prefer online buying over buying it in person (well having a very little time to go out is a big problem as well....

)

by **shaboom** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:26 pm

I'm in pretty much the same boat. I'm moving to SH in March and, despite having a decent laptop (i7, 8gb, 6970 etc) I'll still want to build my own desktop for music production and more taxing visual tasks like rendering in After Effects.

I was wondering if I bring some parts with me, seeing as I just shelled out for a nvidia 590 and some new ram and I have a sound card I'd hate to part with, id I'll have any trouble getting it through baggage handling/customs and such. Also, whats the mark up on decent motherboards, CPU

s and parts in general?

by **Danielm103** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:11 am

I just finished building one, bought all the parts at ZhangYang rd.

Top of the line Asus motherboard , i7 2600k and 16gb ram corsair
1 - 800w power supply
2 - 1tb Seagate drives
2 - Asus GTX560 GPU's in SLI mode
1 - Asus DVD player
1 - surround sound speakers
1- gigabyte case
2- Samsung monitors

Didn't keep track of the total cost, I probably paid about 10% more than buying online. I don't like buying parts online though.

computer parts are more expensive in china in general , so know the prices before you go shopping . If your armed with a smart phone you can look up prices while negotiating. Many vendors will even help you search on newegg .etc for prices comparisons. Of course it's hard for these guys to compete with newegg, so expect to pay a little more.

buy your MB, CPU

, RAM from the same vendor, make them assemble the parts and fire it up. This way you know it works , from there you can take it home and shove it in your case, or have them do it.

closely inspect every part, I have seen some memory chips that have had their stickers replaced as to look like something they are not. If it's not in a sealed static bag, don't buy it.
This is the third box I've built, and I haven't been wronged yet : )

by **heyitschili** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:29 am

Excellent rig!

by **shaboom** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:48 pm

Nice rig, bet you'll be getting a bigger PSU before long though. Those 560 (especially the Ti) seem pretty hungry

When it comes to different brands, I guessing it's a lot more restrictive a field and hard to find parts by smaller companies such as XFX or Crucial?

by **Danielm103** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:20 pm

shaboom wrote:Nice rig, bet you'll be getting a bigger PSU before long though. Those 560 (especially the Ti) seem pretty hungry

When it comes to different brands, I guessing it's a lot more restrictive a field and hard to find parts by smaller companies such as XFX or Crucial?

Yeah, I'm considering this, I also may need some extra wind pointed at those cards, they get pretty darn hot while gaming or doing cad renderings.

You can find most of the goodies here, you may have to search a bit. I'm looking for one of those Intel 311 Larson creek SSDs for a drive cache, but no luck so far

by **carlstar** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:36 pm

800w is fine for 2 gtx560s (I assume ti) if it is good enough quality though 1 AMD 6970 or newer 7900s would save on power and noise.
Didn't need to buy 16gb RAM. 8gb would be plenty with a good speed of about 1333 - 1600.
You have really taken an arrow to the system by not getting a SSD as your main drive. HDD will be your bottle neck in a big way and if you have a top of the line ASUS like an expensive sabertooth then you want to be getting your moneys worth.

Crucial is on 360 or newegg
Some things here are not available in USA and vice versa. Depends on the supply. Just don't buy the cheap rubbish you can get online that may be tempting. Things are not equal and cheap is often the worst thing you can do.
Always buy online and make sure you buy from a place you can trust. Cheaper that way and that is the point of building your own.

by **Danielm103** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:01 pm

carlstar wrote:800w is fine for 2 gtx560s (I assume ti) if it is good enough quality though 1 AMD 6970 or newer 7900s would save on power and noise.
Didn't need to buy 16gb RAM. 8gb would be plenty with a good speed of about 1333 - 1600.
You have really taken an arrow to the system by not getting a SSD as your main drive. HDD will be your bottle neck in a big way and if you have a top of the line ASUS like an expensive sabertooth then you want to be getting your moneys worth.

Crucial is on 360 or newegg
Some things here are not available in USA and vice versa. Depends on the supply. Just don't buy the cheap rubbish you can get online that may be tempting. Things are not equal and cheap is often the worst thing you can do.
Always buy online and make sure you buy from a place you can trust. Cheaper that way and that is the point of building your own.

your probably right about the ram, I use ~6gb when I have my compilers running, I thought I could use the extra headroom.

Actually, from my research, an SSD has little effect on the work I'm doing (compiling C++ source) . This is why I'm opting for the Intel Smart Response route (hence the 311 SSD), as it may help with other tasks.

Cheers

by **carlstar** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:49 pm

Oh the caching route. If it is under 60gb then you have to really.
CAD can use up lots of RAM so probably good, pretty cheap too.

by **shaboom** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:28 am

carlstar wrote:Crucial is on 360 or newegg
Some things here are not available in USA and vice versa. Depends on the supply. Just don't buy the cheap rubbish you can get online that may be tempting. Things are not equal and cheap is often the worst thing you can do.
Always buy online and make sure you buy from a place you can trust. Cheaper that way and that is the point of building your own.

I'm from the UK so somewhat spoilt with Scan and Overclockers. I've heard some horror stories about newegg through the years, they seem to be around the same standard of service as Dabs (who often don't send items until you hassle them via email or phone and, out of the 3 times I had to order a part from them, have sent me two broken items...one of them being a 5770 that literally arrived in 4 pieces).

If I do go the route of bringing some components with me, is there a chance I'll get stung with import tax on them?

Smart Response is okay, especially if you only want to shell out for a small SSD. It's pretty much the same cache system as used in my Series 7 Chronos, and that works just fine (once it's learnt which stuff I launch most often).

by **Mister_happy** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:37 am

I have been bring bits of PC with me from the UK for about 8 years and have had no problems. But keep the numbers small down to the ones and twos', as how many 600GB Intel SSDs do you need to build 1 PC.

I have used Newegg and 360buy for a long time and had no issues with them at all. I had 360buy deliver on the same day, newegg 24 hr normal, if it comes from outside Shanghai they email you to say its delayed, 3 days max.

I would bring your own software Windows 7 and Office as English versions here are very high price.

by **StormXLR** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:54 pm

Been building rigs in china for awhile for myself and friends

i bought some parts from Taobao, but mostly from Xujiahui at Gigabyte store on the second floor at i think it was bainahui or the other smaller one, if you know what you are talking about, have some knowledge of Chinese they wont try to fool you, for example I bought my 2500k there for like 1100 rmb.
this is my rig atm

Intel SB 2500k under Corsair H70
GIgabyte GA-P67A-UD5-B3
Sapphire Radeon HD 6970
Zotac NVIDIA GeForce GTS 450 ( dedicated physx)
Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9R 16 GB
Crucial M4 As OS drive
WD Green 1TB|2x WD RE4 500g RAID0|Hitachi HDT7 1TB
Using Antec 1200 chassis

The problem is the prices here for higher end hardware is astronomical! Was looking into upgrading to 7970 but it costs around 800$ here!
BTW IM SELLING MY PSU its in great condition im just looking for a smaller one coz im moving to college dorms and i got to pay for electricity bills there

Please consider it coz I dont want to sell it to some idiot who doesnt know how to even plug it in and throwing away such a good PSU would be a sin!
Here is the link to the topic where you can see the psu and my contact information
antec-truepower-qauttro-1200w-950rmb-willing-to-trade-t137020.html

by **carlstar** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:10 pm

Zotac NVIDIA GeForce GTS 450 ( dedicated physx)

Yeah i forgot all about the dedicated drive not in sli or xfire. So does it make much difference to the 6970?

Shaboom. I bought in a whole PC, minus the case and power supply in my luggage without a problem, well except when they check to make sure it isn't a bomb.

360buy also has gps tracking online of your gear.

by **StormXLR** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:38 pm

carlstar wrote:Zotac NVIDIA GeForce GTS 450 ( dedicated physx)

Yeah i forgot all about the dedicated drive not in sli or xfire. So does it make much difference to the 6970?

Shaboom. I bought in a whole PC, minus the case and power supply in my luggage without a problem, well except when they check to make sure it isn't a bomb.

360buy also has gps tracking online of your gear.

If the game uses hardware accelerated PhysX then yes it does increase FPS greatly, but the problem is there are few titles that use PhysX, probably only around a dozen total. So really there is no point of getting a dedicated card for it

I just got this one when my 6970 was on RMA.

by **shaboom** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:53 pm

carlstar wrote:Shaboom. I bought in a whole PC, minus the case and power supply in my luggage without a problem, well except when they check to make sure it isn't a bomb.

That's good to know and it's going to save me money from not having to re-buy a bunch of stuff. Will have to check how much I end up over weight allowance though as I have a couple of bits of midi hardware I want to bring with me too. Cheers.

Slightly related question: I see they're upgrading connection speed in SH areas, what's the lag like when playing games on EU/US servers? Oh and hows Steam? I know how to get around region locked stuff via Steam but DLing titles from them through a VPN is always a slow affair. What's the closest Steam content server?

The 7970 is a nice card, but it's just not fair enough ahead of even a GTX580 to really warrant a purchase. Better off saving some cash for the 7990. Two Tahiti GPUs on one board sounds good.

by **StormXLR** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:17 am

shaboom wrote:
carlstar wrote:Shaboom. I bought in a whole PC, minus the case and power supply in my luggage without a problem, well except when they check to make sure it isn't a bomb.

That's good to know and it's going to save me money from not having to re-buy a bunch of stuff. Will have to check how much I end up over weight allowance though as I have a couple of bits of midi hardware I want to bring with me too. Cheers.

Slightly related question: I see they're upgrading connection speed in SH areas, what's the lag like when playing games on EU/US servers? Oh and hows Steam? I know how to get around region locked stuff via Steam but DLing titles from them through a VPN is always a slow affair. What's the closest Steam content server?

The 7970 is a nice card, but it's just not fair enough ahead of even a GTX580 to really warrant a purchase. Better off saving some cash for the 7990. Two Tahiti GPUs on one board sounds good.

If you have simple vpn you can buy games of steam website ( that are area blocked) and they will be activated on your account and then you can just dl them no problem without a need for a vpn.

Thats how I buy all of my games. Download speeds of steam varry from 50-60kb/ps to 800+ I got cheapest fiber optics installed as a free upgrade for my area.

Also I do not know what are you talkign about because 7970 outperforms 580 by quite a margin. The price for both of them in China are about the same ~4000 rmb and higher
Do not believe me?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/rad ... 04-16.html
You can continue to wait for 7990, or if you are going to be playing on a single 1080p screen a 7970 is more then enough. Your money though and I am not the one to tell you how to spend it

Though you can buy my PSU for only 950 rmb! I bought it for 1.4k

by **shaboom** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:28 am

No thanks on both counts: Already running a GTX590 and a XFX gold series PSU

I didn't say it didn't outperform it, but not by enough of a margin (and with AMD's incredibly poor aftermarket and catalyst issues recently) to warrant replacing anything above a 570 or 6970 with it.

by **mical** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:58 am

I've built 8+ machines here, from simple systems to dual cpu xeons, w/16tb of external RAID .

I've had bad luck with newegg, over the years.

I don't speak Chinese so the most successful approach for me, especially for my high end machines components has been to search on Taobao for "reputable" retailers with physical shops located in Shanghai, usually the xujiahui/caoxibei area, then i visit the shops, with their online store loaded on my phone or laptop. If you don't speak Chinese THEY WILL CHEAT YOU! With their own website in front of them they can't do it.

For items non-critical items, such as fans, heat sinks, cables etc, i buy off of taobao

I also second the idea of buying ram cpu and mobo from the same vendor, get them to test it. In addition, when Ive had problem components (usually dead hard drives) they take items back with little fuss.

by **1626** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:03 pm

I guess we'll see how good Newegg is. I'm about to order a Curcial M4 128GB SSD and a Hitachi 750GB HD to replace my aging Macbook Pros guts.

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