




yamari wrote:news flash - cancer is not caused by a lack of aspirin and the stuff eats away your stomach lining. we dont need low doses of drugs over long periods. many research projects come up with all sorts of conflicting advice so need need to jump on the bandwagon each time they publish a report.

snook49 wrote:Of course thre is a benefit from low doses of aspirin. Whilst the lower dose also, diminishes stomach upset as well.
I've been taking low doses of aspirin, ( 80mg) one a day for years now, As a supplement to heart disease prevention. it appears to be effective, since i've not had a heart attack and have all my markers in good order as well.
Cheers, drink red wine daily, but not in abuse.

snook49 wrote:Of course thre is a benefit from low doses of aspirin. Whilst the lower dose also, diminishes stomach upset as well.
I've been taking low doses of aspirin, ( 80mg) one a day for years now, As a supplement to heart disease prevention. it appears to be effective, since i've not had a heart attack and have all my markers in good order as well.
Cheers, drink red wine daily, but not in abuse.

snook49 wrote:yamari wrote:news flash - cancer is not caused by a lack of aspirin and the stuff eats away your stomach lining. we dont need low doses of drugs over long periods. many research projects come up with all sorts of conflicting advice so need need to jump on the bandwagon each time they publish a report.
Who made you Marcus Welby MD?
In an Article, Rothwell and colleagues examine deaths due to all cancers during and after randomised trials of daily aspirin versus control originally for prevention of vascular events. The authors study eight eligible trials which covered 25,570 patients. The findings could have implications for guidelines on use of aspirin and for understanding of carcinogenesis and its susceptibility to drug intervention.



anter wrote:snook49 wrote:yamari wrote:news flash - cancer is not caused by a lack of aspirin and the stuff eats away your stomach lining. we dont need low doses of drugs over long periods. many research projects come up with all sorts of conflicting advice so need need to jump on the bandwagon each time they publish a report.
Who made you Marcus Welby MD?
News flash Yamari.
The researchers, published in Lancet, are not saying that lack of aspirin causes cancer.
Doh!
For the reference used by BBC go to Lancet ref below.In an Article, Rothwell and colleagues examine deaths due to all cancers during and after randomised trials of daily aspirin versus control originally for prevention of vascular events. The authors study eight eligible trials which covered 25,570 patients. The findings could have implications for guidelines on use of aspirin and for understanding of carcinogenesis and its susceptibility to drug intervention.
http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lance ... 40-6736(10)62110-1/fulltext



nongminbongren wrote:I used to work in big pharma and met doctors all the time. You'd be surprised if you knew just how many of them who used a small dose of aspirin each day. It's an old drug so it's very well researched - excellent safety profile. Big pharma will never market aspirin in a big way though since there is no real money to be made on the product.
Totomolo's advise to live a healthy live is always valid. I'm not sure about the vegetable quality in China though. It both looks and tastes odd in my opinion.
) with well known side-effects about gastronintestinal irritant effects (bleeding), and I have left the worst side-effect about potential brain bleeding in the closet

Mr Totomolo wrote: Ohh and last remark:more than 50 millions Americans take regularly doses of low dose aspirin for long-term prevention of cardiovascular disease...Not a money maker for laboratories ?

yamari wrote:The body is an organism that has be designed by something smarter than we are.
yamari wrote:Drugs are our attempt to mess with that something and because of our lack of understanding they often lead to other problems in the future.
yamari wrote:Without a sound philosophy one will be swayed by trends and research usually done by an industry to sell drugs.
yamari wrote:Taking aspirin to me is a bad thing because it goes against basic sense.
yamari wrote:You can keep quoting your second hand knowledge all day to me and it won't sway me because I know...(etc)
yamari wrote:Aspirin has a numbing effect and I know that health is the opposite of being numb.
King of Pop


yamari wrote:The body is an organism that has be designed by something smarter than we are

jzzzzzzz wrote:yamari wrote:The body is an organism that has be designed by something smarter than we are
Uh oh....
Shanghai

Some experts say that taking aspirin would cause bleeding and other problems in healthy patients. They also criticize that the study didn't show any benefits for women; only one-third of the participants were female, and the effects for that group were minimal.
"I definitely think we wouldn't want to make any treatment decisions based on this study," said Dr. Raymond DuBois, a cancer prevention specialist, according to AP.
Although it is recommended for people with heart conditions, aspirin has been known to have serious side effects. It can cause bleeding in the stomach and intestines.
Read more: http://www.thirdage.com/news/aspirin-ma ... z17Ub8qVnW

TheBeaver wrote:
"I definitely think we wouldn't want to make any treatment decisions based on this study," said Dr. Raymond DuBois, a cancer prevention specialist, according to AP.
Although it is recommended for people with heart conditions, aspirin has been known to have serious side effects. It can cause bleeding in the stomach and intestines.


TheBeaver wrote:
No funding was provided for the new Lancet analysis but several of the authors have been paid for work for companies that make aspirin and similar drugs.

Rollin'



Mr Totomolo wrote:[of course, the researchers have no any interest, whatsoever, in promoting aspirin, you know...it is a generic medicine, and labs really don't make money with that...![]()



nongminbongren wrote:[
Totomolo. have you heard about blockbuster drugs? That's the kind of drugs the pharmaceutical companies make money on. There's plenty of old drugs out there. Aspirin is one, pilokarpin is another. They are still in use, but look at the price tag - they are dirt cheap. Big Pharma is doing everything they can to phase out these old (cheap) drugs and replace them with new (expensive) drugs. That's how the industry works.
You can say what you want about aspirin; every drug has side effects. But what we all need to do is to weigh risks against each other. If your predisposed to heart disease and not to ulcer, then I think aspirin might be one way to go.

Mr Totomolo wrote:nongminbongren wrote:[
Totomolo. have you heard about blockbuster drugs? That's the kind of drugs the pharmaceutical companies make money on. There's plenty of old drugs out there. Aspirin is one, pilokarpin is another. They are still in use, but look at the price tag - they are dirt cheap. Big Pharma is doing everything they can to phase out these old (cheap) drugs and replace them with new (expensive) drugs. That's how the industry works.
You can say what you want about aspirin; every drug has side effects. But what we all need to do is to weigh risks against each other. If your predisposed to heart disease and not to ulcer, then I think aspirin might be one way to go.
You are right![]()
http://www.nextag.com/Bayer-Consumer-He ... 5B1169B5BD
US$ 16 for a drug which is 120 years old, without royalties, just a nice repackaging to make look "new" and "improved" , just like the new Toyota...![]()
And I agree wholeheartedly that every drug has side effects; this is why it should be prescribed when there is "clear and present danger", not promoted like vitamins or vegetables juices.
This is mercantilism, and everybody knows it...but nobody wants shake the mud and make the labs angry... too much money involved

anter wrote:On BBC tonight there is a story derived from research published in Lancet.
They have found, as well as cardiovascular benefits of taking a mini aspirin a day, there is research connecting regular mini asprin taking with lowering the risk of developiong certain types of cancer.
OK BBC is quoting 25% lower risk and even if the aspirin taking is stopped after long term use the benefits to lowering risk of cancer are at about 20%.
Anyone on here pay for Lancet subscription?
Please check this report, the research, because if this is the case then there is further link to show that inflamation in the body is connected to developing cancer, amongst other diseased.
I have a question re the benefit of to cardiovascular and cancer lowering risk as opposed to the gut irritation aspirin causes.
Is there a low irritant version of the mini aspirin or some way to lower the irritation in the stomach?
The Beaver wrote: You need to read more before making wild, sweeping, broad generalizations about the so-called benefits of aspirin re cancer.



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