Showers

Fri, May 25

19°C - 23°C

66.2°F - 73.4°F

Partly cloudy (day)

Sat, May 26

19°C - 26°C

66.2°F - 78.8°F



























China may ease one-child rule

The place to share news stories and discussions about them. News stories posted to other sections are typically moved here as well. Traditionally, the primary raison d'etre of this section was to post hard-to-access/find articles that often dissapear crossing the GFW. But please note subject and postings are subject to scrutiny.

China may ease one-child rule

Postby bleepingbleeper » Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:51 am

China may ease one-child rule
Demographers warn China of developing crisis: Not enough babies
By ALEXA OLESEN
The Associated Press
updated 12:00 p.m. CT, Sat., April 24, 2010

DAFENG, China - When asked why she and her husband do not want a second child, Shi Xiaomei smiles at her pudgy 9-year-old son and does a quick tally of the family budget.

Her salary as a cleaning lady and the income from a mahjong parlor in their spare room barely cover their son's school fees and other expenses.

"With just one, we can give him nicer things. But if you tried to split what we have between two or three, they would all end up with nothing," the 34-year-old says at her home in Dafeng, a prosperous but still-rural county north of Shanghai.

For years, China curbed its once-explosive population growth with a widely hated one-child limit that at its peak led to forced abortions, sterilizations and even infanticide. Now the long-sacrosanct policy may be on its way out, as some demographers warn that China is facing the opposite problem: not enough babies.

A stroll down the dirt path linking Shi's close-knit neighborhood suggests why.

Though a little-known exception allows a second child when both parents are single children themselves, there are few takers.

"Why would we want another one? That's just looking for trouble," said Huang Xiaochen, 28, mother of a year-old son.

"Kids are running in and out of here all the time," her husband Zhu Yingzhun said, pointing to his front door which, like many here, is often left open. "He doesn't need a sibling to have someone to play with."

Policy refinements under review
Officially, the government remains committed to the one-child policy. But it also commissioned feasibility studies last year on what would happen should it eliminate the policy or do nothing. An official with the National Population and Family Planning Commission said privately that the agency is looking at ways to refine the limit without getting rid of it.

A people shortage may seem unlikely in a country of 1.3 billion, the most in the world. The concern, though, is not with the overall number. Rather, as the population shrinks, which is projected to begin in about 15 years, China may find itself with the wrong mix of people: too few young workers to support an aging population.

It is a combination that could slow or, in a worst-case scenario, even reverse China's surging economic growth. The government and families will have to tap savings to care for the elderly, reducing funds for investment and driving up interest rates. At the same time, labor costs probably will rise as the work force shrinks and squeeze out some industries.

In a survey of 18,638 women in Dafeng and six other counties in Jiangsu province, 69 percent of those eligible to have a second child said they would stop at one, with economics being the major factor. The Chinese Academy of Social Sciences survey did not calculate a margin of error.

"Government control is no longer necessary to maintain low fertility," Zheng Zhenzhen, who headed the study, wrote in the November issue of Asian Population Studies magazine. "A carefully planned relaxation of the birth-control policy in China is unlikely to lead to an unwanted baby boom."

'Earthquake is happening'
Family size has dropped dramatically since the 1970s, when the average Chinese woman had five to six children. Today, China's fertility rate is 1.5 children per woman. Most families have just one, but exceptions allow multiple children for ethnic minorities and a second one for rural families whose first baby is a girl.

If that fertility rate holds, China's population will peak at 1.4 billion in 2026 and then start shrinking, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. By the end of this century, China's population would be cut almost in half to 750 million, according to a model developed by Wang Feng, a demographer at the University of California, Irvine. That would still be two and a half times bigger than the U.S. today.

Wang says the government's focus on slowing population growth has dangerous side effects.

In just 10 years, the age 20-24 population is expected to be half of today's 124 million, a shift that could hurt China's economic competitiveness by driving up wages. Over the same period, the proportion of the population over 60 is expected to climb from 12 percent — or 167 million people — to 17 percent.

"We feel like we're seismologists, you know," said Wang, who has helped lead a data-driven campaign to persuade the government to drop the one-child policy. "This earthquake is happening and most people don't see it. We feel we have the knowledge to detect this and we should tell the public."

Male surplus
Sonograms became more widely available in the 1990s, and some parents who wanted a son aborted their baby if they learned it was a girl.

Though the practice is illegal, statistics make clear that it is widespread. The male-female ratio at birth was 119 males to 100 females in 2009, compared with a global average of 107 to 100.

Experts fear that, in the years to come, the gender imbalance will create a frustrated generation of men unable to find spouses. That in turn could fuel the trafficking of women and girls to be sold as brides.

Still, not all experts agree the one-child rule should be dropped.

Li Xiaoping, a researcher at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, welcomes the coming population decline, saying it will ease food and water shortages and limit pollution. Writing in the state-run China Daily newspaper, Li said the government should stand firm on the one-child limit while finding ways to boost the earning power of a smaller work force.

A change would mark a turnaround from a 30-year-old policy that dates from an era when the Communist Party controlled every aspect of peoples' lives: where they lived and worked, who and when they married and how many children they could have.

The government credits the rule with raising millions out of poverty by preventing 400 million additional births. The gains have come at a cost, however. Families who violated the one-child rule were fined. Some lost their jobs or homes.

Others underwent forced abortions or sterilizations, the subject of well-known author Mo Yan's latest book, "Frog," the tale of a rural midwife who struggles with an emotional breakdown after a 30-year career performing such brutal procedures.

"Yes, our slowed population growth delivered economic prosperity, but needless to say, we've paid a great price," said Mo, whose book was inspired by his aunt, a country doctor. "No matter how you look at it, it's been a tragedy."

Xie Zhenming, who heads the government-funded, research-oriented China Population Association, expects change within the next five years, gradually, in steps.

Susan Greenhalgh, an expert on the policy's history, agrees. The anthropology professor at the University of California, Irvine, believes the government will avoid dramatic change, out of fear that it could revive bad memories and make people wonder whether such a harsh measure was ever necessary.

"My view is that it will gradually be taken apart, piece by piece, over the next few years," she said, "until we all wake up and discover that, lo and behold, the one-child policy has been dismantled to the point that it's no longer a one-child policy."

Copyright 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36754653/ns/world_news-asiapacific/

MSN Privacy . Legal
© 2010 MSNBC.com


here's another one:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/chinas-one-child-policy-largely-ignored-2010-03-18

may not be all new info, but interesting to read, especially the last sentence:
"In no country have cities been generating population. They've been consumers of population. It's the rural regions which generate population"
bleepingbleeper
Veejay
Veejay
 
Posts: 1953
Joined: Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:24 pm

Re: China may ease one-child rule

Postby KalanStar » Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:02 am

^^Not really "new" news, the gov. announced "an easing" of the regulation over a year ago. What is interesting in the CCTV9 news these past couple days is the story of a pregnant woman who lost 3 children and her husband in the recent quake. Although the news repeatedly reports her pregnancy and the number of children she had had, it seems like no one bats an eye at the fact that her family was so large to begin with! The "one child policy" is a city policy! I see many recent immigrant families with 2 or 3 children in Shanghai!

Video of the story I mentioned: http://english.cctv.com/program/worldwi ... 1149.shtml

Another example:
"Cheng Chuanliu, the father who locked his two-year-old son to a post with a chain, wants to have more children to cover the heartache of a "lost" daughter and a recently deceased third child.

"If my four-year-old daughter is found soon, I won't have another baby. If not, I will have two or three more," Cheng told METRO on Monday."

http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90782/6927480.html
Last edited by KalanStar on Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:17 am, edited 1 time in total.
A wise man said, "Keep your stick on the ice. We're all in this together"
User avatar
KalanStar
Low Seater
Low Seater
 
Posts: 3455
Joined: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:47 am

Re: China may ease one-child rule

Postby bleepingbleeper » Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:15 am

but if, according to the last quote i put up, urban dwellers are less likely to have children, wouldn't it make sense to institute a population control policy to the rural areas? maybe not one-child, should your agricultural output decline, but limit to 2 or 3? i don't know what the average family size would be in rural farming communities...
bleepingbleeper
Veejay
Veejay
 
Posts: 1953
Joined: Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:24 pm

Re: China may ease one-child rule

Postby rickettyrabbit » Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:36 pm

I've read articles in foreign newspapers about how the relaxation of the one-child rule has made no difference in Shanghai for the same reasons as in western countries -- more career-oriented women and the need for two incomes to support the desired lifestyle.
Wabbit
"I work so hard, don't you understand
Making maple syrup for the pancakes of our land."

Frank Zappa
User avatar
rickettyrabbit
Board Royalty
Board Royalty
 
Posts: 7394
Mood: Cool
Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:35 am
Location: Low radiation zone

Re: China may ease one-child rule

Postby SindbadMalone » Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:03 pm

The 1 child policy is one of the greatest ideas the Chinese govt ever had.
They may ease it for urban areas. But by now with rocket high real estate prices.
nobody would want more than 1 child.

Generally speaking. I think the 1 child policy is great. It should also be applied
to countries like India, who will sooner or later surpass the Chinese population
Also despite the decline in newborn children in western countries. Due to medical
improvements the average age is rising.

We have a world population of 6.something billion. Everybody wants to eat. Have
access to fresh water and a chance of having a career. With limited resources
it's a global challenge to find out what population figure is suitable for all of us
to have an enjoyable life.
User avatar
SindbadMalone
Reacher
Reacher
 
Posts: 271
Joined: Sat Jan 03, 2009 5:02 pm

Re: China may ease one-child rule

Postby rickettyrabbit » Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:17 am

^ We're getting pretty close to serious global food shortages. The one-child policy makes sense. There ARE limits to growth.
Wabbit
"I work so hard, don't you understand
Making maple syrup for the pancakes of our land."

Frank Zappa
User avatar
rickettyrabbit
Board Royalty
Board Royalty
 
Posts: 7394
Mood: Cool
Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:35 am
Location: Low radiation zone


Return to News and Opinion

 


  • Related topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest