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China's murky ownership rules

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China's murky ownership rules

Postby rickettyrabbit » Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:22 am

Who owns what?
The perils of investing where the law is unclear
(The Economist, Jul 7, 2011)

OWNERSHIP is rarely straightforward in China. After Mao Zedong died and land was opened up for commercial development, each plot came with only a 50-year government lease. No one knows what will happen when those leases expire. Yet building projects continue apace.

Foreign investors face a similar conundrum. Several Chinese industries, such as mining, steel, education, telecommunications and the internet, are both capital-hungry and politically sensitive. They need foreign investment, but the law bans foreigners from owning stakes in them.

Eager investors and canny locals have found ways around the rules. Perhaps the most important is the creation of a complex investment vehicle called a “variable interest entity” (VIE). It works like this: valuable Chinese assets are placed in a Chinese company. This entity, the VIE, must be run by a Chinese citizen. A series of contracts are then arranged, shifting the returns from the VIE first to a foreign-owned company registered in China and then to an offshore company, perhaps in the Cayman Islands.

This structure—a Chinese-owned company in China, a foreign-owned company in China and an offshore parent—is known as the “Sina” model, after the first Chinese internet company to be listed overseas. It is used by about half of the Chinese companies listed in America, says Paul Gillis, a professor at Peking University. Numerous other unlisted companies use it as well. It allows Western companies to invest in China without breaking local ownership restrictions.

There are signs, however, that the Chinese government has begun to frown on VIEs. In 2006 the Ministry of Information, which regulates internet firms, said it was taking a look at them. In 2009 three other ministries announced that VIEs were banned for companies involved in internet games.

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Now that the issue is in the news, China is under pressure to spell out what is permissible, and what is not. The risk that big foreign firms will suddenly find that their investments in China are illegal or worthless is surely remote. Or is it?

http://www.economist.com/node/18928526

The more I read elsewhere, the more convinced I am that a few Shexpat veterans whom I thought were a little too jaded and pessimistic about China seem to have been spot on.
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Re: China's murky ownership rules

Postby tylerdurden » Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:55 am

If they can find a way to take it all back, they will. Believe me.

China will keep taking what it can from the West, until it feels it has what it needs. Then it will close its doors again.

We are, after all, talking about a nation where the concept of "honour" has no honour.
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Re: China's murky ownership rules

Postby KopyKatKiller » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:24 am

each plot came with only a 50-year government lease.


I find this interesting. Why, because the peasants that inhabited the land were told while Mao was alive that they had their homes for life. He died, the gov then said 50 years, but not for anyone in a development zone. Now that development is a common sight, many of the tenants of this land have been evicted and the story is that people have a 75 year lease... but when will that story suddenly change??? Looking at investing in real-estate here is really a game of building your financial future on a footing of sand. If the wind changes, the sand blows away and you are left with nothing. Even Chinese I talk too seem to have no idea what will happen in 75 years or whether the 75 year term is really from point of construction or point of ownership. I doubt I'll live long enough to find out, but I bet a lot of the owners of 75 year homes will see their homes disappear due to poor construction if not to outright repossession by the state.

BTW Wabbit, you back in Shanghai yet or still living the good life in Van?
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Re: China's murky ownership rules

Postby rickettyrabbit » Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:44 pm

^ Too busy to come back to Shangers right now. Maybe this fall?
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