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converting biz visa to permanent work visa

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converting biz visa to permanent work visa

Postby chardy » Fri Oct 17, 2003 3:17 pm

anybody know how difficult/easy it is to convert a 1-year multiple-entry F visa to a permanent work visa? i'm wondering if i'm getting the runaround from my prospective employer. is it really that tough for a company (big international one, i should add) to do? :? any info much appreciated!
(sorry if this has been covered in another thread somewhere; for some reason i'm unable to use the search function).
thanks folks!
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Postby bluemoon » Mon Oct 20, 2003 10:18 am

You can write to vladimir@legkostup.com for more information and help service. They have thebest service and know how to do all kinds of visa things . :roll:
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Postby okido » Thu Oct 23, 2003 4:33 am

It's not difficult at all! I have a process and required documents for work visa application procedure drew up in power point format (when I was getting my work visa last year). I am more than willing to share it with anyone who needs it. Give me your email. I will send it to you.
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Postby robbie » Thu Oct 23, 2003 9:01 am

thks okido,pls send one for me, dushifeng@citiz.net
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Postby chardy » Thu Oct 23, 2003 11:58 am

hey okido,
thanks - i've sent you a PM with my email address. appreciate any info i can get -- the more well-armed i am the better! :D
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Postby okido » Fri Oct 24, 2003 2:07 am

chardy, sounds like your employer isn't very helpful in this regard. it does require the employer to prepare some documents too and send a person to do the initial works but except the "letter" there are nothing that they are not already have. I am crossing my fingers for you. Wish you finally have found someone friendly and helpful in the organization.

hummm.. am I taking the business from those visa application agents? hope my life won't be in danger. :-)
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Postby chardy » Fri Oct 24, 2003 3:52 pm

well, here's the deal. they've approached me about working for them here (i've worked for them before, elsewhere). but they're dragging their feet now. they say they really want me on board but "it's just that visa regulations are so rigid." i just wanna know if that's really the case (sure didn't seem to be for my fiance's company when they moved him up here from overseas!), 'cause if it's BS i don't wanna waste my time waiting around. :roll:
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Postby chardy » Fri Oct 24, 2003 3:55 pm

well, here's the deal. they've approached me about working for them here (i've worked for them before, elsewhere). but they're dragging their feet now. they say they really want me on board but "it's just that visa regulations are so rigid." i just wanna know if that's really the case (sure didn't seem to be for my fiance's company when they moved him up here from overseas!), 'cause if it's BS i don't wanna waste my time waiting around. :roll:
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Postby okido » Sat Oct 25, 2003 1:01 am

Looks like the company is reconsidering the idea of hiring you. :-( Since you have worked for them elsewhere, it shouldn't be so hard to apply for the license (as long as you have also provided necessary support documents for the application). After getting the license, everything else is a matter of walking along the process and getting the paperworks done.

Anyway, now you should have a clear idea of what the company would need to do and what documents you would need to prepare. Again, good luck. And, if you don't mind, let me know of the result.
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Postby AX » Mon Oct 27, 2003 2:57 pm

Hi OKiDO,

Please send me your powerpoint chart from converting from F to Z. My employer is screwing it up bad and I need it asap. Thanks! Please send to inchina100@yahoo.com
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Postby Concubine » Tue Oct 28, 2003 12:39 pm

Hi okido

Please send me your powerpoint chart for converting the F visa to a Z visa. My e-mail is kkimsey@strgb.com

Thanks!!
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Postby okido » Thu Oct 30, 2003 2:20 am

Concubine (!), the file has been sent to your email address. Please note me when you get it.
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Postby Hanabi » Tue Feb 17, 2004 10:43 am

Hey Okido
I would appreciate if you could forward this to me email:
shanghai_hanabi@yahoo.co.uk
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Postby SiaoKia » Tue Feb 17, 2004 5:52 pm

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Postby LeiFeng » Tue Feb 17, 2004 11:17 pm

I've noticed that bluemoon definitely has a relationship with a "visa consultant". Everytime the subject comes up, she refers peope to this "Vladimir" character.

Okido, haven't you thought about converting the PowerPoint presentation into some format that's downloadable and just placing it on the site? Unless you have some other reason for building up a mailing list of those interested in Work Visas ;-)

Maybe you can answer the one question that's been on my mind (not that I ever - touch wood - will have to go through the tedious process of getting an employment license again). During SARS, they eliminated the requirement that people who were not top-level executives had to leave to get their first Z visa issued outside of China (a policy that certainly lacked "socialist characteristics"). Has this requirement now been reinstated?
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Postby AlexChua » Tue Feb 17, 2004 11:38 pm

Hello Okido put me in ur list alexchuake@hotmail.com. thks
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Postby Lancelot » Wed Feb 18, 2004 1:35 am

hey Okido,

Sent me the copy too lanceramos@yahoo.com
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Postby Hanabi » Wed Mar 03, 2004 11:24 am

hi Okido
Please forward your powerpoint chart to email: shanghai_hanabi@yahoo.co.uk

Thank you
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Postby jake2778 » Wed Mar 03, 2004 12:34 pm

Could someone tell me the benefits of having a Residence permit( little green book) compared to a one year Business F visa????

You are allowed to borrow money from the bank with the F business visa. I don't see why some really would love to have this residence permit. What is so special about it and what can you do that you can't do with other visas????
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Postby LeiFeng » Wed Mar 03, 2004 1:21 pm

You are entitled to certain benefits that F visa holders are not. To give a trivial example, hotels will often discounts to "Chinese citizens and residence permit holders". That in itself is not enough to justify the work in getting a res permit, but if you want to be here for the long term, u should be on a res permit, if only because it's convenient not to go to HK every X months.
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Postby jake2778 » Wed Mar 03, 2004 1:29 pm

LeiFeng,

So thats the only reason? So you don't have to go back once a year to Hong Kong? Once I year on the company to Hong Kong is fine with me...

Thanks for the reply man
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Postby JB12 » Wed Mar 03, 2004 1:34 pm

Hi Okido
Could you please also forward your powerpoint chart to my email address: jerome_burckel@englishtown.com

Thanks in advance
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Postby JB12 » Wed Mar 03, 2004 1:35 pm

Hi Okido
Could you please also forward your powerpoint chart to my email address: jerome.burckel@englishtown.com

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Postby LeiFeng » Wed Mar 03, 2004 2:49 pm

Jake, not having to make the trip is more of a joke than an advantage... there are definitely advantages to having a residence permit - for example, you can get a driving license (which you need res permit for) and can do some other things that others can't. I just don't have time to research it for you guys.
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Postby Diwata » Sun Mar 07, 2004 9:48 pm

Hello,

Can anyone tell me, how long is the tourist visa? It would be my first time to come in Shanghai, and I wonder how long the max. can I stay?

Thanks for replying to this message.
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Postby jenming » Mon Mar 08, 2004 9:31 am

Can anyone tell me, how long is the tourist visa? It would be my first time to come in Shanghai, and I wonder how long the max. can I stay?


go to the left side of the page, and click on "Forum Search". Then type in, "tourist visa" (with or without quotes. you'll find what you're looking for.

hope this helps,
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Postby Sinsabit » Thu Mar 11, 2004 9:32 pm

Just to add.

Maybe this only applies to UK people but..
I got a 90 day tourist visa from the Chinese embassy in the UK.
I have been told that if I want to extend in Shanghai I can only get 1 month via the official PSB within the city.

So for me, 4 months is the basic length of stay (disregarding further application efforts).
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Postby skytiger » Wed Apr 14, 2004 11:33 am

okido,

Would it be possible to send your powerpoint presentation to me.

Thank you,

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Postby gregsh » Wed Apr 14, 2004 11:52 am

Okido,

Could you send me your Power Point file.

Thanks in advance,
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Postby itv1980 » Wed Apr 14, 2004 3:31 pm

Typical tourist visa is mostly handed out for one month to three months. When in China you can extend this tourist visa for another month, after showing documents of registration at a hotel, booked tickets or travel with group. Then the entry and exit bureau hold now grudge and extend your visa.

Maximum on tourist visa 4 mon ths

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