Moaning Lisa Lee wrote:Yep, You are right "Under 20 IQ", I am confused. I am confused why so many "experts", offer definitave advice on visas, when the same advice does not apply to ANY two people.
I have just received my L spouse visa, changed from F, in Tianjin, and have 3 months at a cost of RMB 160, and the wife's Hukou was viewed, (which is also mine), and no temporary residence permit is required. ( I keep a copy in my passport). She does not need one, so neither do I. I also have the promise of a 12 months extension next time round.

How can you have hukou and need a visa? What kind of **** are you that you don't even know WTF things are called?

The advice applies to any two NORMAL people. Sad to say, but you are abnormal. Not a big surprise really given most of what you post.

Why do you make it so confusing by using a mix of English and pinyin?

Just use the English to avoid confusing.

^ What are you talking about?

hukou, laowai, etc.

^ Is your problem drug induced or is it just simply genetic?

If you don't know WTF hukou is, you are stupider than you have given us to believe. How much more can we dumb it down for you, "that little red book that shows one has registered and is considered a Chinese citizen"?

Isn't the appropriate expression "dumber than a bag of hammers"?

ATP wrote:Isn't the appropriate expression "dumber than a bag of hammers"?

Actually I prefer my trademark phrase -- ****.

But I am not in the mood to see Moanling Lisa Lee cry and snivel over being labeled something that, scientifically, fits him to a T.

monalisalee wrote:Yep, You are right "Under 20 IQ", I am confused. I am confused why so many "experts", offer definitave advice on visas, when the same advice does not apply to ANY two people.
I have just received my L spouse visa, changed from F, in Tianjin, and have 3 months at a cost of RMB 160, and the wife's Hukou was viewed, (which is also mine), and no temporary residence permit is required. ( I keep a copy in my passport). She does not need one, so neither do I. I also have the promise of a 12 months extension next time round.

Hi Monalisalee, as a foreigner, you cannot have a hukou in China. Only locals qualify for this, and depending on where they are born, they qualify for certain 'privileges'. It seems that each city/town/province has their own rules and regulations regarding visas for foreigners. Of course, here, money talks, so depending on your contacts or guan xi, some people qualify for more than others.

Since each government office is different, and rules keep changing, it is best to personally go to the appropriate office and inquire and apply in person.

underh20 wrote:^ Is your problem drug induced or is it just simply genetic?

If you don't know WTF hukou is, you are stupider than you have given us to believe. How much more can we dumb it down for you, "that little red book that shows one has registered and is considered a Chinese citizen"?

I know what a hukou is, but to those new to China that require the directions you hand out, some of them still have to learn the lingo.

as you can read on wangjianshuo's blog...

http://home.wangjianshuo.com/archives/2 ... _china.htm

underh20 wrote:

ATP wrote:Isn't the appropriate expression "dumber than a bag of hammers"?

Actually I prefer my trademark phrase -- ****.

But I am not in the mood to see Moanling Lisa Lee cry and snivel over being labeled something that, scientifically, fits him to a T.

Very sorry to disappoint you or burst your bubble! My post was meant in reference to our dear friend, woaihuan.

woaihuan wrote:....
I know what a hukou is, but to those new to China that require the directions you hand out, some of them still have to learn the lingo.

Houkou? Explain how someone new to china has a houkou (for that matter, explain how ANY foreigner has a houkou).

leidelaohu wrote:

Wang xiansheng is okay - seems like a pretty nice guy - but like too many Chinese people, he sees something in the west and falls in love with it without understanding.

And I might add, the opposite is equally true.

leidelaohu wrote:Many things in China are very practical so ditching them for some pipe dream has bad consequences.

A nation that has had no time or space for dreams?

leidelaohu wrote:Wang falls for the surface appearances way too easily.

The problem stems from the fact that he is - as far as I know - a foreigner then living (still living?) in the US.

Far, far greater understanding comes by the second and most often, by the third generation of immigrants. This applies across the board.

The problem stems from the fact that he is - as far as I know - a foreigner then living (still living?) in the US.

Actually WangJianShuo lives in Shanghai.

Wang xiansheng is okay - seems like a pretty nice guy - but like too many Chinese people, he sees something in the west and falls in love with it without understanding.

Yes, and foreigners do the same as well. Though some just become jaded expats as time goes on, only giving lip service to some of what is actually good but believing our own self-righteousness about how bad things really are... and yet we stay.

^ $$$

dfoo wrote:

woaihuan wrote:....
I know what a hukou is, but to those new to China that require the directions you hand out, some of them still have to learn the lingo.

Houkou? Explain how someone new to china has a houkou (for that matter, explain how ANY foreigner has a houkou).

I NEVER SAID FOREIGNERS HAVE HUKOUS.

That was not me.

They were flaming a guy for saying he had a hukou. He obviously did not know what a hukou was.

I blamed them for saying Hukou instead of using the English translation, because I thought this was likely the route of the problem.

woaihuan wrote:

dfoo wrote:

woaihuan wrote:....
I know what a hukou is, but to those new to China that require the directions you hand out, some of them still have to learn the lingo.

Houkou? Explain how someone new to china has a houkou (for that matter, explain how ANY foreigner has a houkou).

I NEVER SAID FOREIGNERS HAVE HUKOUS.

That was not me.

They were flaming a guy for saying he had a hukou. He obviously did not know what a hukou was.

I blamed them for saying Hukou instead of using the English translation, because I thought this was likely the route of the problem.

Still moronic.

As if we are going to start saying "that little red book that shows one has registered and is considered a Chinese citizen" instead of hukou.

If you don't understand the terms, ask.

woaihuan wrote:

dfoo wrote:

woaihuan wrote:....
I know what a hukou is, but to those new to China that require the directions you hand out, some of them still have to learn the lingo.

Houkou? Explain how someone new to china has a houkou (for that matter, explain how ANY foreigner has a houkou).

I NEVER SAID FOREIGNERS HAVE HUKOUS.

That was not me.

They were flaming a guy for saying he had a hukou. He obviously did not know what a hukou was.

Actually, the guy doesn't know much of what anything is.

He constantly screws up terminology / words / sentences / letters of the alphabet and just about anything else you can imagine.

Obviously he is bipolar.

underh20 wrote:^ $$$

Hope springs eternal, it is said.