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do it yourself gallstone removal?????

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do it yourself gallstone removal?????

Postby CoffeeHawk_0 » Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:58 pm

http://www.shanghaiexpat.com/index.php? ... 174#748174

Can any medical professional comment on this?

I'm not in need as far as I know, but I'm curious if this is real or risky, etc. :roll:
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Postby shanghaithunder » Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:35 pm

http://www.curezone.com/cleanse/liver/c ... urgery.asp

http://www.curezone.com/cleanse/liver/

Tried both shile I was doing the master cleanse. Works wonders and feels great afterwards..a little unsettling at times, but worth the effort
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Postby Snippets » Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:02 am

Total scam - you are passing gelled balls of olive oil. Educate yourselves by reading this:

http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRel ... ushes.html

The Truth about Gallbladder and Liver "Flushes"
Peter Moran, MB, BS, BSc(Med), FRACS, FRCS(Eng)

Gallbladder and liver "flushes" are widely advocated as a way of treating gallstones and helping with medical conditions ranging from allergies to cancer [1-4]. In the usual “flush,” half a cup or more of a vegetable oil is consumed together with citrus juice and Epsom salts (magnesium sulphate), usually after a brief fast. Many green, brown, yellow or black blobs of various sizes may later appear in the bowel movements. Some bear a slight resemblance to gallstones, but they are not stones. They are merely bile-stained "soaps" produced by partial saponification (soap formation) of the oil. A recent demonstration found that mixing equal volumes of oleic acid (the major component of olive oil) and lemon juice produced several semi-solid white balls after a small volume of potassium hydroxide solution was added. After air-drying at room temperature, these balls became quite solid and hard. When formed in the intestine, these objects absorb bile and become green [5]. It has also been shown that red dye will appear in the interior of the “stones” if consumed with the oil [1].

The fact that the material is due to some kind of transformation of the oil is clear from user descriptions and ultrasound images. The most obvious evidence is that the alleged “stones” float on the toilet water [2,3,6], as might be expected of a largely oil-based substance. Gallstones sink. Patients with medically diagnosed gallstones may be able to confirm this for themselves by looking at their own ultrasound scans.The stones, if free to move, will settle at the lowest part of the gallbladder, even though bile is much denser than water. The picture to the right shows a cross-section of the gallbladder (the oblong black area) with three moderately large stones in the lowermost area.
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Postby Andreas » Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:38 am

Thanks for that Snippets. I knew I had seen it before somewhere, but could not find the link anymore.
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