lilazn_boi wrote:Converse - 55rmb
Ray Ban Aviators(Glass lens) - 30rmb
D&G Sunglasses(Plastic lens) - 30rmb
Jack Smith Tie - 15 rmb
Dress Shirt - 40 rmb
Carry on sized suitcase - 140rmb
Vans shoes - 60rmb
Hand Crank Flashlight - 10rmb
Apple Usb Charge Cable - 15rmb
Generic T-Shirt - 20rmb
Higher quality timberland T-Shirt - 30rmb

Good shopping! Was the dress shirt custom made? If so, where did you get it? That is the lowest price I've seen.

realtrueblue wrote:

SoMike wrote:It is pretty funny how these shop owners are trying to pull customers from these sites. .[to their shop]

Aren't you doing more or less the same ?
Harvesting visitors here to guide them to your website?
Where, by the way, the really usefull information is hidden behind a subscription...

Yep, I market on Shanghai Expat, just like I market elsewhere. I suspect that everyone with a signature link is doing some sort of marketing. However, I don't expect people to "fall for the trap" of going to my website since all of the information I share is absolutely free (or even costly for me considering the prizes that I aim to give out that aren't sponsored by companies). The subscription info and prizes are also completely free as a "thank you" to those that have taken the time to sign up for my newsletter.

Also, I've given back to Shanghai Expat through the forums and by authoring an article on the ShEx front page. I can't say that any shop owners have offered to do that for me (if they did, I'd be happy to give them or anyone else space on my page).

goalie75 wrote:Whats up guys, I'll be in Shanghai in a few weeks and I just had some questions.

1. Do they have quality Nike shoes? (specifically Air Force 1's)

4. Do they have headphones? And has anyone seen the Beats headphones by Dr. Dre?

Thanks if you take the time to read this and answer any questions. All help is greatly appreciated!!

1. The shops in the larger fake markets rarely have knockoff Nike shoes anymore. However, I know that some of them have "backrooms" that they can take you to which aren't on the sales floor. I'm sure they will have them there, just not in the open because of crackdowns. Just ask for Nike Air Force Ones, I'm sure they will know what you are talking about.

4. Plenty of fake headphones, though I probably wouldn't bother buying them. Fake Beats headphones are everywhere. I'm into music and headphones and all of that so it's hard for me to buy real headphones at a decent price without knowing if they are fake. The fakes I've seen, Beats, heartBeats (the lady GaGa ones), Seinnheisers, Monster Turbines, any Sony ones . . .

I want a Prada Smoking... Where can i get one for around a 500 RMB? I don't have a smoking yet so it has to be measured well! Who can help me?

Anyone know of the Rongfu fake market near Pudong Times Square is still there? The address is 1271 Pudong South Road. Haven't seen mentions of it online for a couple years. Thanks!

Hi All,

Will be coming to Shanghai in about 2 weeks but very limited number of days... 2 days, then onto Huangshan / Huangzhou / before coming back to Shanghai for another 2 days. I definitely want to hit the fabric market to gets some suits done. This forum has been very helpful, but a few more questions/clarifications:

1. Are suits in the fabric shop typically canvassed or is this subject matter that needs to be discussed? If so, any one know what "canvassed" is in chinese? And what would be the price difference? I am hoping to get some good quality suits in the 600-800 RMB range. Is this reasonable (some sites says a good suit = 500 RMB?)

2. What is the typical % you typically put down? 50%?

3. I am hoping to get done 2 suits, 2 sport coats, and 5-8 shirts. Prefer for a one-stop shop as I don't have a lot of time. What would be the best recommended shop?

Thanks!!

rainynite wrote:Hi All,

Will be coming to Shanghai in about 2 weeks but very limited number of days... 2 days, then onto Huangshan / Huangzhou / before coming back to Shanghai for another 2 days. I definitely want to hit the fabric market to gets some suits done. This forum has been very helpful, but a few more questions/clarifications:

1. Are suits in the fabric shop typically canvassed or is this subject matter that needs to be discussed? If so, any one know what "canvassed" is in chinese? And what would be the price difference? I am hoping to get some good quality suits in the 600-800 RMB range. Is this reasonable (some sites says a good suit = 500 RMB?)

2. What is the typical % you typically put down? 50%?

3. I am hoping to get done 2 suits, 2 sport coats, and 5-8 shirts. Prefer for a one-stop shop as I don't have a lot of time. What would be the best recommended shop?

Thanks!!

Im gonna check the biz card of the guy at the stall where i got some shirts, i saw this person being recommended here and was a great deal. I think i paid like 50% in advance and balance against shirts (after trying them all).
Be sure to convince the guy aswell to make them the same day, if not, will take them 5 days, like it happened to me.
Ok anyway ill check tomorrow and post here the stall # (i do hope i still have the biz card)

cooljw wrote:Anyone know of the Rongfu fake market near Pudong Times Square is still there? The address is 1271 Pudong South Road. Haven't seen mentions of it online for a couple years. Thanks!

There is a fabric and fake market (quite big) in the Science and Technology Museum Subway station in Pudong. Not sure if that is the one you mean, if not maybe try check this one out. Not as crowded as the Puxi one, and a bit easier to get down the prices. This one is still supposed to be there, haven't been there in a while though, so not sure...

Good luck!

rainynite wrote:Hi All,

Will be coming to Shanghai in about 2 weeks but very limited number of days... 2 days, then onto Huangshan / Huangzhou / before coming back to Shanghai for another 2 days. I definitely want to hit the fabric market to gets some suits done. This forum has been very helpful, but a few more questions/clarifications:

1. Are suits in the fabric shop typically canvassed or is this subject matter that needs to be discussed? If so, any one know what "canvassed" is in chinese? And what would be the price difference? I am hoping to get some good quality suits in the 600-800 RMB range. Is this reasonable (some sites says a good suit = 500 RMB?)

2. What is the typical % you typically put down? 50%?

3. I am hoping to get done 2 suits, 2 sport coats, and 5-8 shirts. Prefer for a one-stop shop as I don't have a lot of time. What would be the best recommended shop?

Thanks!!

As promised in my last post, heres the info
2nd floor stall 228, the name of the guy is HOU JIAN LIN (he looks like jet li) and his phone number is 13701894968

^ It would be somewhat helpful if you gave out the location of the market with the stall you recommend as there are several. Sounds like the South Bund Spinning Market at 299 Lujiabang Lu. Op will do better at S&T if he goes there.

Renovator wrote:^ It would be somewhat helpful if you gave out the location of the market with the stall you recommend as there are several. Sounds like the South Bund Spinning Market at 299 Lujiabang Lu. Op will do better at S&T if he goes there.

Sorry but are you referring to me as the OP for my post above? I was planning to head to the Lujiabang Lu market but sounds like you think the S&T market is a better idea? Just curious why? I assumed since S&T is a bit more diverse that Lujiabang would be a better spot to head to, but maybe that's an incorrect assumption?

Renovator wrote:^ It would be somewhat helpful if you gave out the location of the market with the stall you recommend as there are several. Sounds like the South Bund Spinning Market at 299 Lujiabang Lu. Op will do better at S&T if he goes there.

Sorry you're right, im referring to lujiabang's market (id thought it would be clear since our buddy was talking about it).

Anyway he got it right, so lets hope it goes smooth for him!

^S&T will be far less expensive for same quality goods. Rents are lower there and goods are produced outside Shanghai city limits where the wages are lower and there is fierce competition amongst stalls because the tailor section over expanded.

Lujiabang Lu market, goods are produced behind the market in the garment district, subcontracted to whomever has spare time hence you need to pay for the higher Shanghai city wages plus higher rent at the market for the stall plus less competitive amongst stalls.

Renovator wrote:^S&T will be far less expensive for same quality goods. Rents are lower there and goods are produced outside Shanghai city limits where the wages are lower and there is fierce competition amongst stalls because the tailor section over expanded.

Lujiabang Lu market, goods are produced behind the market in the garment district, subcontracted to whomever has spare time hence you need to pay for the higher Shanghai city wages plus higher rent at the market for the stall plus less competitive amongst stalls.

Thanks again for the responses. So most of my research has been on the Lujiabang Lu market as I had assumed that S&T was more focused on fake stuff. I don't have a lot of time (family wants to go to the Expo, so I only have one day to put my orders in and then won't be back for 2 weeks to pick up the goods). Would you have any recommendations at the S&T market for men's suits & shirts?

rainynite wrote:

Renovator wrote:^S&T will be far less expensive for same quality goods. Rents are lower there and goods are produced outside Shanghai city limits where the wages are lower and there is fierce competition amongst stalls because the tailor section over expanded.

Lujiabang Lu market, goods are produced behind the market in the garment district, subcontracted to whomever has spare time hence you need to pay for the higher Shanghai city wages plus higher rent at the market for the stall plus less competitive amongst stalls.

Thanks again for the responses. So most of my research has been on the Lujiabang Lu market as I had assumed that S&T was more focused on fake stuff. I don't have a lot of time (family wants to go to the Expo, so I only have one day to put my orders in and then won't be back for 2 weeks to pick up the goods). Would you have any recommendations at the S&T market for men's suits & shirts?

Recommendations don't mean squat except that in one stall they may speak better English than in another stall as all stalls in all markets use multiple tailors. What is important is to either give an exact sample of what you want for style, fit, etc. or tell them exactly what you want in terms of fabric, liner, buttons, pockets, loops, waistband, cuff, colar etc. and how you want the garment to be cut and how tight or loose you want it to fit in all sections of your body. Leave anything up to the stall owner or tailor to guess and they will guess wrong 95% of the time.

hi aLL

Went to Cindy's today at the Fabric Market, which is 1F-191 for some or 1F-26-27.

4 biz shirts at RMB100 each. Is this over the top or could I have got it down to RMB 80 each?

I was quoted RMB 650 for a suit. Too much??

How is their Cashmere coats? price?

Would appreciate comments, especially people that had used them before.

Thanks.

^There is no such thing as "the Fabric Market" There are several fabric markets around Shanghai and several thousand Cindys as well so we really have no idea where you went but yes, prices you were quoted are pre-negotiation way over the top regardless of the market.

Hi Renovator

Thanks for the quick reply. I was not specific. I meant the fabric market in LuJiaBang road.

^Then the prices are not too far out of line as they have to charge 20%-25% more for the same quality goods as other markets such as S&T because of higher wages in garment district behind LuJiaBang Lu market where they will sub-contract your order and South Bund Spinning Market has higher rents than all the other markets as well. They do, however, still cater to the foreigners that don't care about the higher prices.

Renovator (and others!) -- again thanks for replying to this thread.

I guess I semi- fit into the category of foreigner who don't care about prices too much, I'd be happy to pay another 1-200 RMB for a suit if I feel comfortable about them doing a good job (it's what, $30 USD in the grand scheme?)

But are you saying that most stalls outsource to the same group tailors anyways (so really it's a commodity purchase?). I was under the impression that the stall owners were the tailors, if not, then getting a good price does matter more.

Also, anyone know how to say "canvassed" suit in chinese (written or pingying is fine, I just don't even know what the terminology is). Any other key things you typically tell the tailors for suits or shirts that maybe good recommendations?

Thanks a lot.

^ I did not say that most stalls outsource to the same group of tailors. All stalls outsource to different groups of tailors so yes, at Lujiabang Lu it really is a commodity purchase. Your biggest problem will be getting exactly what you want because anything you do not specify, they will decide on their own and 9.8 times out of 10 get it wrong. How tight the fit, style of cut, lining material, stitching, waist bands, loops, even pocket depth or don't be surprised when too shallow to put in your wallet. If you really want canvassed, you will need to specify the material as well as modern materials are now used to hold the suit jacket in shape.

Frankly I think you would have better luck at S&T as those tailors are situated outside Shanghai and I have found the stall owners at S&T easier to specify when dealing with a very picky customer. Lujiabang Lu is mainly frequented now by foreigners that do not reside in Shanghai and the market knows that and therefore tries to get away with cutting corners wherever they can.

If you have a sample suit and shirt that you can lend them to copy, you will have the best luck but even there need to specify any changes or that you want to have it made identically to your sample.

Renovator wrote:If you have a sample suit and shirt that you can lend them to copy, you will have the best luck but even there need to specify any changes or that you want to have it made identically to your sample.

And, if you do, make sure you still set aside time to try on the clothes. I've talked to too many visitors who plan to pick up their orders the day before leaving the country. No matter how much direction you give them, you should always plan on getting your clothes 4 days later to allow time for adjustments.

I've been wandering around and found the following:

mid-sized leather purse - 100RMB at S&T
synthetic leather gladiator sandals - 30RMB at Qipulu

Is that about right?

Also, has anyone else noticed that the material/quality at S&T is better than Qipulu?

shaonian wrote:
Is that about right?

If you like the product, and you think its worth it that amount, than yes you made a good deal.

Sure there will always be people that payed a bit more or a bit less..

But in the end its all about a few bucks difference... it wont make any difference to your wallet, but it can mean a good day to them.

shaonian wrote:I've been wandering around and found the following:

mid-sized leather purse - 100RMB at S&T
synthetic leather gladiator sandals - 30RMB at Qipulu

Is that about right?

Also, has anyone else noticed that the material/quality at S&T is better than Qipulu?

Virtually everything that is available at S&T can be bought for less at Qipulu if you have the patience and ability to shop there and bargain hard. There is no difference in material/quality as the items all come from the same factories. Additionally, Qipulu has lower end, lower priced goods that are not available at S&T as they cater mostly to the domestic Chinese crowd whereas S&T caters to the wealthier Chinese and Foreigners. The volume of goods is greater at Qipulu so if only one or two stalls at S&T carry a specific item I want, then I go to Qipulu where 8-9 stalls will carry the same item at a much lower price. You do need to be careful though as some stalls in Qipulu will try to charge 3 to 4 times the price of S&T so you really have to know what the item is worth before shopping there.

S&T has the fabric custom clothing section and the jewelery section as well that is not available at Qipulu.

Hi!
New to Shanghai but not to China as I've been here quite a few times.
I've been to Tao Bao, S&T and the Shanghai South Bund Fabric Market.
Had a few questions:

I'm planning to get a suit from that last market and have been quoted 560 RMB for a suit in a decent fabric (well it looks like that to me at least)
Is that price alright or too high? Haven't ordered from them yet.
Is it better to get it made at the S&T market?

I got a couple of cotton shirts for 90 RMB and they were quite good. Should I aim for a lower price?

I also saw they have leather shops and I was wondering how much I should pay for that?
They quoted me 1300RMB for a jacket made with 'good quality' leather from new zealand and 900RMB for Suede which is surprisingly cheaper.
What do you guys think?

So far I've bought jeans for 100 RMB.
I managed to get as low as 85 RMB for a pair but not any lower.
Didn't manage to get lower than 40RMB on Billabong T-shirts.

One last questions, do you guys know where I could find more fashionable t-shirts?
I always find the same type of t-shirts in the these markets. When I was in Beijing 2 weeks ago, I managed to find copies of Iceberg t-shirt with a much better fabric. Is there a place I can find these here?

Will be staying here at least until end of december so I'm looking forward to enjoying all the bargaining

Thanks for reading this far

kofeur wrote:I'm planning to get a suit from that last market and have been quoted 560 RMB for a suit in a decent fabric (well it looks like that to me at least)
Is that price alright or too high? Haven't ordered from them yet.
Is it better to get it made at the S&T market?

I consider this high, but I do my shopping at the Fabric Market (Lujuabang). You would be able to negotiate a lower price there and see your fabric in person.

I got a couple of cotton shirts for 90 RMB and they were quite good. Should I aim for a lower price?

It's not horrible. You can negotiate down to 80 RMB each pretty easily, but, does this really matter?

I also saw they have leather shops and I was wondering how much I should pay for that?
They quoted me 1300RMB for a jacket made with 'good quality' leather from new zealand and 900RMB for Suede which is surprisingly cheaper.
What do you guys think?

Again, check out the fabric market on Lujuabang. You can read my guide on the Shanghai Fabric Market for more information on this location.

So far I've bought jeans for 100 RMB.
I managed to get as low as 85 RMB for a pair but not any lower.
Didn't manage to get lower than 40RMB on Billabong T-shirts.

You are fine here. I can get cheaper for jeans, but I see the quality suffer as I go down further. On the other hand, I've purchased higher quality jeans for 150 RMB, so I don't have enough information to say that the 100 RMB price was bad or good. 40 RMB on a T-shirt is reasonable (don't fret too much about a few RMB). As stated in my Shanghai Fake Market Prices guide, I've heard cases of jeans for as low as 50 RMB, but the quality was pretty poor. Think QiPu Lu quality . Same with shirts going for 25 RMB.

One last questions, do you guys know where I could find more fashionable t-shirts?
I always find the same type of t-shirts in the these markets. When I was in Beijing 2 weeks ago, I managed to find copies of Iceberg t-shirt with a much better fabric. Is there a place I can find these here?

I like some of the shops in the West Nanjing Rd fake market (4th floor) for jeans and higher quality fakes.

Thanks for your reply!
I checked your guide and found it very useful.
I was in Liujabang today and found them to be a bit cheaper on average.
Still need to get pictures of the type of suit I need before getting anything done.

hi wondering if you can help.

I visited Shanghai earlier in the year and a friend took me to see a guy called Island in his workshop somewhere like Xinle Lu?

He had a great collection of fake handbags and other stuff. Ive lost his card with his phone number on and will be back in Shanghai next week

Anyone know who im talking about and where I can find him / contact him?

Thanks!

Hi,
Island is the name of his shop - the man's name is: Alex - ph 13311700700
Address: 401 Julu Lu, 1st door on right, up steep steps, door with curtain is his.
Good idea to phone first, as he often only gets there in the afternoon.
Prices high, and he's not open to bargaining, but some very good bags etc.
Enjoy!