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Geopolitics-Your Daily Dose of Eye Opener by the Frenchlover

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Geopolitics-Your Daily Dose of Eye Opener by the Frenchlover

Postby babebibobu » Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:42 pm

Contributed by Khalid Amayreh in Occupied E. Jerusalem 20/02/08


Sarkozy: The Extraordinary Zionist


Is French President Nicolas Sarkozy an extraordinary Zionist.? Well, his behavior so far indicates that he is.


Last week, Mr. Sarkozy was quoted as saying that he wouldn’t shake hands with anyone that didn’t recognize Israel as a Jewish state. The gravity of his statement is very real, since accepting Israel as an exclusively Jewish state amounts to condoning and embracing racism in its most fundamentalist forms. It is very much like insisting that France should belong exclusively to the Catholics and that the non-Catholic citizens of France would have to come to terms with their inferior status as lesser citizens who eventually would have to choose between embracing Catholicism or expulsion.


Moreover, Sarkozy recently suggested that France wouldn’t attend an anti-racism conference scheduled to take place in South Africa this year if Israeli apartheid came under attack.


Well, Mr. Sarkozy, how do you think the people of the world should relate to Israeli apartheid? Should they sing the Tikva in unison and glorify all the ethnic cleansing Israel has been effecting against the indigenous Palestinians ever since its misbegotten birth nearly sixty years ago?


Maybe you would claim there is no apartheid in Israel. But such a pornographic claim would only be an expression of either clarion ignorance or clarion lack of rectitude since apartheid in Israel-Palestine is an uncontroversial truism.


Besides, don’t you watch TV? Don’t you read the French and Israeli press? Don’t French diplomats in Israel convey to you the real image? And how about the dozens of Israeli intellectuals, people of conscience and morality like the former Speaker of the Israeli Knesset, Avraham Burg, who have described Israeli apartheid and criminality in graphic details?


Mr. Sarkozy: If you are ignorant of these conspicuous facts, it’s really a calamity. And if you are aware of them but still insisting on giving Israel the benefit of the doubt, it’s even a greater calamity. This is sad, Mr. President. Very sad, indeed.


And you are planning to attend the celebrations marking Israel’s 60th anniversary.


Well, that is even more lamentable, because celebrating Israel’s foundation anniversary, especially while the Palestinian plight is deepening with the passage of each and every day, amounts to celebrating the triumph of racism, ethnic cleansing and genocide.


It is very much like celebrating the advent to power in Germany of the Third Reich. Yes, Mr. President, the similarities are striking.


In Nazi Germany they had an evil mantra called "the master race," and here in Israel they have an equally diabolical mantra called the "chosen people."


In Nazi Germany, they had the Ubermensch concept, and here in Israel they have the "goyem" whose rights and lives are expendable.


In Nazi Germany they had the idea of "lebensraum," and Israel they argue that "Jews have got to live somewhere," a euphemism for stealing Palestinian land and expelling these helpless and powerless people from their ancestral homeland, all for the purpose of fulfilling Jewish nationalism, a nationalism that has more in common with Hitler’s Mein Kampf than with the Torah of Moses.


Mr. Sarkozy: By choosing to embrace Zionism and identify your administration with Israel’s Nazi like policies and practices, you are effectively betraying the principles of the French Republic.


Are you still truly committed to liberty, equality and fraternity? If you are, then it is clear that you are betraying these principles.


In Israel, there is no liberty for five million Palestinians who are treated as children of a lesser God, whose children are murdered because they are non-Jews, whose homes are demolished because they are non-Jews and whose land is taken away from them because they are non-Jews.


In Israel there is no liberty for the Palestinians. Instead there are huge walls, detention camps, checkpoints, roadblocks, bypass roads, and mass incarceration and a justice system that is worse than a house of whoredom.


In Israel there is no equality because the state itself belongs to one segment of its citizens, namely the Jews, and if you are not Jewish, you’ve got to rely on the good will and magnanimity of the master race.


And fraternity! Well, fraternity and Zionism can’t and shouldn’t be used in the same sentence. They are contradictory concepts because fraternity is integrationalist and universalist while Zionism is segregationalist and particularist. In short, fraternity and Zionism are a contradiction in terms.


Mr. Sarkozy, I have decided to write this article because there is a real contradiction between the principles of the French republic, which we all love and respect, and your political behavior.


No one, not even the Palestinians, is demanding that France sever ties with Israel, although morally-guided politicians and statesmen shouldn’t hesitate to call the spade a spade even if doing so is politically incorrect.


However, you are challenged to reconcile France’s principles of freedom and justice with your government’s unlimited support of Israel despite the fact that Israel is making the prospect of peace in the Middle East as remote as possible and as unrealistic as possible by continuing to expand Jewish-only settlements in the West Bank and Arab East Jerusalem and by narrowing Palestinian horizons and slaughtering entire Palestinian families, all under the false rubric of fighting terror.


Mr. Sarkozy: If what Israel doing is right, then say so openly, for you have been projecting yourself as an honest man. But if these acts are wrong and detrimental to the cause of peace, then, please, don’t remain silent and, more importantly, don’t give Israeli leaders the impression that you support them right or wrong.
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Postby babebibobu » Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:46 pm

Sarkozy's France and the Vichy Regime: "Nul et non-avenu" in the words of General de Gaulle. Certainly not the Republic of France.
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Postby babebibobu » Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:49 pm

If you understand French, see this http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=MGESC2r3MRI The number one threat to Jew People, worse than "Shoah": interracial marriage. At least those killed by the Nazi went to heaven. Those who marry gentiles dont. See/hear it to believe it (sorry in French).
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Postby angelus512 » Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:20 pm

Here's my 2cents. Not going to create some long thought out piece about Israel or Palestine. There are 2 sides, you are either for israel or for palestine anything else written is just padding.

My 2 cents, f*ck palestine. Israeli's have an ancient claim to that land that is just as reasonable as any of the other crap floating around the world today.
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Postby babebibobu » Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:24 pm

Ok we have top brains here, welcome, and what are your 2 cents about the Jews being the biggest sponsors of interracial marriage all over the world, for everybody, except... for themselves. What does it mean? What is their objective?
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Postby angelus512 » Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:29 pm

Paranoid much? Their objective? Perhaps security because they are the most picked on bunch of people to walk the earth.

Gas chambers and fire pitts ring any bells? Not to mention almost every Muslim state reckons Israel needs to be pushed into the sea?

When people call other people tight on money they call them a jew? The most hated bunch of people ever and you think its unreasonable for them to want a little security?

Ridiculous. I'd bet my left hand you're one of those holocaust denialists or something.
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Postby sbergman » Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:33 pm

babebibobu, What's the source of your original interest in Zionism? I've only ever met Jews or Palestinians who have such a strong and single-minded interest in the subject. (This is a totally innocent question.)
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Postby babebibobu » Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:34 pm

Seriously: in which world do you live?

Fire pits? That one made me laugh real hard. Do some research. During WW2 different allies had different propaganda stories. The "fire pit" story was lated abandonned as the less credible. The "gas chamber" story prevailed. Read the first books of Elie Wiesel (Nobel Prize winner, advisers of Presidents) - he was at Auschwitz- he witnessed seeing fire pits there, not gas chambers. Later he dropped that claim (and later a mockup gas chamber was built there, if you visit the camp, you will see it - see the plate, it says its a mockup). So they had fire pits in Auschwitz. You shameless Holocaust denier! Booo!
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Postby hammerforlife » Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:36 pm

This thread looks oddly familiar.
"Never believe quotations you read on the internet" - Abraham Lincoln
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Postby angelus512 » Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:38 pm

Ok well about 50% of what you wrote was...unusual.

So I'll go with what I ASSUME you're meaing.

Option A) You're saying the gas chambers are all a crank. if so...honestly need I say anymore about how stupid that is?

B) The fire pits, if you're saying that never happened. That jews weren't lined up and shot and their remains either buried or burned....once again...seriously its ok you can tell us....are you hitler's love child?
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Postby babebibobu » Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:38 pm

Sbergman: I am from France where we face, more than in most other Western countries, unbelievable level of pro-zionist brainwashing. Blame Sarkozy (and some of his predecessors) and his backers for this - more and more people like this feel strongly about it. I think in the end Sarkozy and the zionists pushed it too far. Its is going to blow to their face. That civil war they have started in Europe. Well, perhaps they are not going to win after all. Lets see.
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Postby angelus512 » Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:40 pm

Let me guess, you're from the North of france? If so, that explains a lot.
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Postby babebibobu » Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:41 pm

I quoted Elie Wiesel, Nobel Prize winner. I quoted the plate at Auschitz, that explains its a mockup. Go please tell us these people are Holocaust deniers! I myself have no opinion on the subject (its forbidden by law to have an opinion on this in France) - but I think it cannot be an excuse for the crimes committed in the past 50 years in Palestine (and elsewhere!).
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Postby babebibobu » Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:42 pm

North of France? What?
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Postby angelus512 » Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:55 pm

Wow lol! Seriously I expected you to say something different but to come back with Elie Wiesel the NOBEL PRIZE winner indeed!
To come back with that and by not saying much else passively agree that the Holocaust is not as we believe it to be.

Elie Wiesel indeed LOL. I hardly think Elie Wiesel is a holocaust denier

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Wiesel, it should be noted, does not claim to have been an eyewitness to any of the alleged mass gassings of Jews by the Nazis. Indeed, he only claims to have seen one event relevant to the allegations about mass extermination-the burning alive of a truck-load of babies in a flaming pit on the night that he arrived at Birkenau

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Furthermore I hardly think you should EVER use Elie Wiesel as a puppet boy for your anti-holocaust cr*p. Wiesel was reporting on what HE saw.
Picking one man (Wiesel) to determine the truthfulness of millions of others who saw other things is absolutely stupidity. You are a tool.



Damn I only thought there were a handful of fools left in the world that genuinely believed the Holocaust didn't happen and that millions of people are suffering from some form of mass-dillusion. priceless.
And I found 1 in Shanghai no less.

As for that gas-chamber being a mockup, seriously WTF do you expect? Yeah lets keep the original that millions were baked in and put it on display...as if.
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Postby angelus512 » Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:02 pm

Consider what Wiesel himself has said in an anti-revisionist lecture given at Northwestern University:

The boy that began to talk to you tonight, where is he? Did he dream or live his dreams of fear and fire? Did he really witness the agony of mankind, through the death of his community? Did he really see the triumph of brutality, did he hear or imagine the laughter of the executioner? Did he really see killers throwing children, Jewish children, into the flames alive? I rarely speak about this, but in this place we must. For a very long while I resisted accepting this story as mine. For years and years I clung to the belief that it was all a dream, a nightmare. No, I did not see the children. I did not see the flames. It was no dream. It was real. Jewish children, living Jewish children were thrown into the flames in order to save money because the gas was costly. (Dimensions of the Holocaust, Evanston, IL: Northwestern University, 1977, pp. 17-18.)



I'm saying no more on this. You cr*p is making me sick.
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Postby babebibobu » Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:23 pm

Thanks for posting this, angelus, thank you.
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Postby babebibobu » Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:24 pm

In bold even.
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Postby TheMasterofDisaster » Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:51 pm

"My 2 cents, f*ck palestine. Israeli's have an ancient claim to that land that is just as reasonable as any of the other crap floating around the world today."

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my 2 cents is u aint no rocket scientist

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"Perhaps security because they are the most picked on bunch of people to walk the earth. "
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unlike tasmanian aborigines i guess? jesus, r u dumb....................






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and now for the tasteless joke¨

¨"It was real. Jewish children, living Jewish children were thrown into the flames in order to save money because the gas was costly. "

well, at least they died with a smile on their face, lol
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Postby babebibobu » Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:33 pm

Sadly, Master of Disaster is clearly one of the most clever and well educated poster on this forum. Which says a lot about the quality of expats in China nowadays. Repeat after me: White Trash!
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