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Gmail ground to a halt?

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Gmail ground to a halt?

Postby jet5354 » Sun Apr 03, 2011 5:05 pm

Since weds or thurs I've been having an extremely hard time accessing my gmail accounts, I'm only able to get them to load in basic html mode and even then it's still horrendously slow.

Is it just me?
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Re: Gmail ground to a halt?

Postby HaroldTheIronmonger » Sun Apr 03, 2011 5:09 pm

No problem here...
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Re: Gmail ground to a halt?

Postby chotomate » Sun Apr 03, 2011 6:22 pm

Works fine from here as well even sending 11 picture attachments today using it. 'arold, how about Nino's? I've been meaning to get over there; I feel I will give it a try in about one week. Any recommendations?
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Re: Gmail ground to a halt?

Postby HaroldTheIronmonger » Sun Apr 03, 2011 6:24 pm

chotomate wrote:Works fine from here as well even sending 11 picture attachments today using it. 'arold, how about Nino's? I've been meaning to get over there; I feel I will give it a try in about one week. Any recommendations?


Just had a 306 (Hawaiian) and a 304 (Salami) delivered...
The 306 is good stuff, the 304 was a nice change but not one I'll be eating again any time soon...
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Re: Gmail ground to a halt?

Postby jet5354 » Sun Apr 03, 2011 6:30 pm

Must just be me then...
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Re: Gmail ground to a halt?

Postby coxaca » Sun Apr 03, 2011 7:49 pm

I don't use gmail, but the internet here seems to be getting worse and worse. I imagine this is mainly due to ever-increasing functionality and consequent intrusiveness of the bleedin' GFC.
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Re: Gmail ground to a halt?

Postby KopyKatKiller » Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:22 pm

Won't load at all from where I am anymore.

I'm hoping someday Google will team up with Facebook to tear down the wall. With their expertise and funds, I'm sure they can figure a way to hack the Chinese system and make it self destruct... or maybe they could just hire hitmen to kill all the GFW employees???
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Re: Gmail ground to a halt?

Postby Misteral » Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:07 pm

Internet is really slow these last few days. Wei shen ma?
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Re: Gmail ground to a halt?

Postby KopyKatKiller » Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:18 pm

^^TIC
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Re: Gmail ground to a halt?

Postby cuilan » Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:42 am

works ok with vpn
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Re: Gmail ground to a halt?

Postby KopyKatKiller » Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:03 am

Also works with outlook and no vpn.
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Re: Gmail ground to a halt?

Postby HaroldTheIronmonger » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:09 am

Also works without outlook and without vpn
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Re: Gmail ground to a halt?

Postby AD » Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:13 am

I heard all the large internet Co's like facebook and Google are in discussion to just block Chinese access to any site outside of China if the Big C Gov don't stopping hacking all the large financial institutions and internet companys.

I think that would be 2 fingered salute to China.
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Re: Gmail ground to a halt?

Postby ATP » Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:30 am

AD wrote:I heard all the large internet Co's like facebook and Google are in discussion to just block Chinese access to any site outside of China if the Big C Gov don't stopping hacking all the large financial institutions and internet companys.

I think that would be 2 fingered salute to China.


You must be kidding? From what I have read, the FB head honcho is determined to dot his 'i's' & cross his "T's" & set up shop here in this effing wondrous country.He has a Chinese gf (what a fool!) and is reportedly studying Mandarin. It is all about money, right? And, given what we know about him via the film "The Social Network", this is one chap who makes no pretense to be burdened by possessing anything like ethics when it comes to business (& perhaps in his personal life as well). Don't fool yourself.

Oh, and from what I have seen, there has been no international media coverage of the fact that Google has quietly re-established its offices in Beijing.
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Re: Gmail ground to a halt?

Postby KopyKatKiller » Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:56 am

GMX mail is now blocked also.
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Re: Gmail ground to a halt?

Postby KopyKatKiller » Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:02 am

*FYI
Found something interesting out today trying to email a proxy. While gmail and gmx are both working in outlook, emails and attachments are being monitored by the government. The upload connection containing the proxy attachment resulted in my connection to the sever being blocked. But using the same account without the attachment went through without difficulty. So be careful what you write or send as attachments via outlook.
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Re: Gmail ground to a halt?

Postby nok123 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:55 pm

No luck with gmail today ... just get a standard error message screen when trying to login.
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Re: Gmail ground to a halt?

Postby jzzzzzzz » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:39 pm

Still working fine for me here without proxy/vpn enabled.
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Re: Gmail ground to a halt?

Postby cookbook » Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:21 pm

gmail has been on and off for the last couple of months... But, seems to have less problem on my computer at work... It is pretty weird!
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Re: Gmail ground to a halt?

Postby Humac » Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:30 pm

cookbook wrote:gmail has been on and off for the last couple of months... But, seems to have less problem on my computer at work... It is pretty weird!

The exact opposite with me. :lol: Few problems at home but maybe works 50% of the time at work.
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Re: Gmail ground to a halt?

Postby KopyKatKiller » Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:38 pm

Both gmail and gmx back up.
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Re: Gmail ground to a halt?

Postby Humac » Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:45 pm

KopyKatKiller wrote:Both gmail and gmx back up.

You say that but... interesting that the colleague who sits next to me gets the "Safari can’t connect to the proxy server" at the exact same time as I manage to log on to gmail.

Another unusual phenomenon...if I open two browser windows and try logging onto gmail, one will always give me the above message while the other logs on no problem. I can't explain it, but computers have always been a mystery to me.
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Re: Gmail ground to a halt?

Postby lunainai » Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:35 pm

I cann 't attach my kids pictures to mail to my friends or family these days with my gmail and takes long to connect. When I use my husband's wireless computer most of the time it's ok, but when I use my own with cable....
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Re: Gmail ground to a halt?

Postby KopyKatKiller » Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:37 am

Humac wrote:
KopyKatKiller wrote:Both gmail and gmx back up.

You say that but... interesting that the colleague who sits next to me gets the "Safari can’t connect to the proxy server" at the exact same time as I manage to log on to gmail.

Another unusual phenomenon...if I open two browser windows and try logging onto gmail, one will always give me the above message while the other logs on no problem. I can't explain it, but computers have always been a mystery to me.

Yeah, strange huh... Now I can get into GMX mail but not gmail. It seems to me that they are employing a roving block that cycles through IP addresses. I envision it to be like a radar screen with the blips being ip addresses. When the line passes you IP address and it appears on the screen you are blocked... get the picture?

I also have a feeling that much more is being blocked on China Telecom accounts than on Unicom accounts, especially if you are using the CT routers that are remotely controlled. I get much better load times when I'm on my D-Link than on the Dare Global CT router. I'd like to have a Unicom and Ct internet account side by side to view the differences in load times and page denials.

China telecom are real a-holes to deal with if you want to use your own router for their 3m or higher connections. I couldn't believe how rude and seemingly angry the support staff were when I tried to get basic information about their IPTV settings. They acted like I was breaking the rules by not wanting to use their POS router. Also, while they could easily see on their end whether or not I had their router connected, they claimed not to know simple information like which port IPTV used to my consternation. Any company who is this uncooperative about giving out information that should be freely available, and upset at anyone who dares to control their own settings (via a non CT router as CT router's routing functions are uncontrollable by the user in the first place), is highly suspect in my opinion.

PS. I get more blocked sites using Vista than XP from the same IP address, router, browser and computer. Strange... This leads me to suspect Vista has a vulnerability that is being exploited by the GFW that XP does not. I'm going to make a new partition and install linux and monitor the differences in the 3 of them just to test this theory.
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Re: Gmail ground to a halt?

Postby jzzzzzzz » Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:10 am

I have China Telecom at home and Unicom at work. Gmail has been stable for me in both locations.
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Re: Gmail ground to a halt?

Postby palvis » Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:31 pm

Maybe Japan quake is related, must be a lot of re-routing going on:

"6 weeks for sea cable repairs"
"Updated:2011/3/25 10:42"

"Users in the city and elsewhere in the country have seen some services supported by foreign servers hit by interruptions in recent weeks.

About a dozen undersea cables near Japan were damaged by the quake, according to the Sino-British Submarine System Co Ltd, a company affiliated to China Telecom."

http://www.cn-c114.net/576/a590806.html
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Re: Gmail ground to a halt?

Postby Humac » Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:53 pm

^No, the gmail problems were happening long before March 11. There were plenty of stories explaining why. Here's the first one I found...
http://techcrunch.com/2011/03/21/google ... ail-block/
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Re: Gmail ground to a halt?

Postby KopyKatKiller » Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:16 pm

Found this online:
GFW research team tried heavily to crack down the SSL certificate for gmail (thus, they can censor the gmail content through GFW)

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1049036

Experts say the transition to IPv6 network addresses, from the current generation of IPv4 addresses used to identify computers and devices online, could give Beijing a far more powerful tool in the continuing development of its system of Internet blocks and filters.

http://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/f ... 55151.html
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Re: Gmail ground to a halt?

Postby palvis » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:21 pm

More likely they could be blocking/delaying specific random/targeted conections. Just mentioned Japan because it was only after the quake that I faced some massive -although timely limited- connection fails.

If anyone has success breaking the SSL protocol, name it the chinese or the martians, we will all have a huge global problem there. But then again, whoever succeeds (including the martians) would try to be very very silent and let things run smoothly, while listening quietly.

Anyway, who knows...
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Re: Gmail ground to a halt?

Postby palvis » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:36 pm

I think that, besides some political concerns, the very reason behind these things is that china just don‘t want to give away 1.3 billion users for the personal benefit of some Mark Zuckerberg & Co. The 1.3B users will be owned by chinese companies. [EDIT] And I agree.

Personal opinion, no sources.
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