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Hainan hell....

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Hainan hell....

Postby shanghaiceltic » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:06 am

Went to Hainan (Sanya) a few years ago...shithole. One of the few places I saw in China where pickpockets were operating very openly, pushed two into the gutter when they tried nicking what they thought was my wallet, it was actaully a folded map in my back pocket.

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Visitors' tales of extortion at the hands of greedy islanders may be evidence that Hainan's pillar industry has not been a tide that raises all boats

Stephen Chen
Feb 08, 2012

A tourist from Liaoning received a shock when he was handed a receipt for his breakfast in Hainan over the Lunar New Year holiday. It wasn't a typo - the ordinary glass of milk he'd ordered cost 110 yuan (HK$135).
Pei Chuan , from Anshan , posted a photo of the receipt, from a restaurant in Sanya , on his microblog on Sunday. It has since drawn millions of views while serving as more evidence of price-gouging in the tropical island province.

The pricey milk, coupled with mounting reports about 6,000 yuan fish, 1,000 yuan crab and taxi cabs with metres stopped, have set off a firestorm of doubt over the government's plan to turn the relatively backward island into an international tourist destination by 2020.

While the government is pushing for the construction of luxury hotels and resorts at breakneck speed, it has neglected some basics needs of low-income residents of the island, according to some tourism experts. They say visitors will never feel safe or comfortable in Hainan if they are surrounded by locals who are poor and bitter.

Pei could not be reached for comment yesterday, but he was quoted by the Liaoshen Evening News as saying that the glass of milk was one of many rips-offs that he encountered during his five-day visit.

The same restaurant charged him 99 yuan for a bowl of congee, and in another restaurant he asked the price of shrimp and was told it was 2,000 yuan.

Pei and two friends spent more than 20,000 yuan each during the trip, much more than their budget.

"I won't dare return to Sanya," he said.

The Sanya government said it would punish the restaurant if Pei could provide "more solid" evidence of deceit.

An official with the city's pricing bureau said by phone yesterday that they would like to take Pei's complaint seriously, but the receipt, which didn't feature a tax bureau stamp, might not be enough.

"Customers must check the prices on menus carefully before they order and keep an official receipt after dining," the official said, who declined to be named.

Professor Ma Bo , head of Qingdao University's school of tourism, said by phone yesterday that the provincial government had paid too much attention to building the mainland's biggest and priciest hotels while ignoring the basic needs of local residents.

When the provincial government announced in 2010 its goal of turning the island into a global tourism destination within a decade, many experts in the industry shook their heads, Ma said.

According to the local government website, in Sanya alone there are a dozen five-star hotels and more than 20 under construction. The scale and density of luxury hotels and resorts has exceeded that found in much richer places such as Shanghai and Beijing.

The provincial government made building more hotels a central goal this year.

"The government promotes tourism as a pillar industry, but only a tiny portion of the population has something to do with it. Besides a privileged few, most people have not benefited from the great leap forward," Ma said.

"If so many locals feel poor and bitter, you can' expect them to treat tourists with warmth and honesty.

"Provincial leaders should slow down their dance with real estate developers and listen to the outcry of the poor."

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Re: Hainan hell....

Postby look2me4guidance » Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:12 am

Agreed - dump of the highest order. If you go, stay in a kick-ass hotel and order the Mercedes pick-up option and never leave the premises.

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Postby highlander » Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:28 am

Went a couple years back with Chinese wife and got ripped off....picked out/paid for 18 giant shrimps but at the end only delivered 6-8 shrimps...same with fish....and other dishes. They are giving Sanya a very bad name. Never been back been to Bangkok, Bali, Phuket.....but not again to Sanya....
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Postby Shinbone » Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:20 pm

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Postby Brun0 » Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:25 pm

I cant understand why anyone would go to Sanya if you can go to Thailand for just a little bit extra money.

I can understand the locals having to go there, but expats? Come on.
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Postby MoonOverMiami » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:53 pm

^Forget Thailand, go to Hawaii for less.
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Postby wagnett » Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:15 pm

We had a great time there for a few days when our visa situation didn't allow us to go outside China...but we did just hang out at one of the big new resorts. Great quality beach and clean-seeming water. Service not up to international standards quite but good fun and well-meaning friendly staff.
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Postby tihZ_hO » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:07 pm

wagnett wrote:We had a great time there for a few days when our visa situation didn't allow us to go outside China...but we did just hang out at one of the big new resorts. Great quality beach and clean-seeming water. Service not up to international standards quite but good fun and well-meaning friendly staff.



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Re: Hainan hell....

Postby highlander » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:10 pm

wagnett wrote:We had a great time there for a few days when our visa situation didn't allow us to go outside China...but we did just hang out at one of the big new resorts. Great quality beach and clean-seeming water. Service not up to international standards quite but good fun and well-meaning friendly staff.


Yeah it's ok if you stay within the big resorts otherwise not much outside of them in terms of activity/culture/food....
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Postby GC » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:25 pm

I went in 2004 and found it nice but we stayed in the hotel, got drunk till late, slept till late, hit the empty beach in the afternoon and then the pool. We once ventured into Sanya City and it was indeed a hovel, like something out of 70's concrete Britain.

I recommened to friends to go in 2006 and they hated it.

Used to be useful if you had Chinese partner and wanted a quick break that did not require a visa.
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Postby Chavster » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:36 pm

If Hainan had been left alone it would be a nice little place to get away too. But mass tourism is predictably wrecking the joint.

They have one of those ridiculous "Buddhist Sceneic Areas" there where they coach you in and you stand around gawping at a giant concrete Buddha statue. Tourism FAIL.
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Postby KopyKatKiller » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:52 pm

They Chineeeesed it. Was nice in the 90's I hear...

As for getting ripped off over CNY as the article suggests, that's common everywhere in China. Ripping people off is the height of Chinese New Year's spirit.
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Re: Hainan hell....

Postby Bobchina » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:57 pm

highlander wrote:Went a couple years back with Chinese wife and got ripped off....picked out/paid for 18 giant shrimps but at the end only delivered 6-8 shrimps...same with fish....and other dishes. They are giving Sanya a very bad name. Never been back been to Bangkok, Bali, Phuket.....but not again to Sanya....

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Postby NorthernLights » Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:00 pm

They satisfy the guys in the resorts?

I thought that was just available outside of resorts...
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Postby Bobchina » Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:05 pm

I think if guy resort, they will raise attention, because they will feel intension.
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Re: Hainan hell....

Postby wagnett » Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:57 pm

yes, when a guy feels tension he needs to be satisfied

(sorry Bob, we shouldn't be having fun with a non-native speaker...I wish my Mandarin was 1% as good)
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Re: Hainan hell....

Postby tihZ_hO » Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:12 pm

wagnett wrote:yes, when a guy feels tension he needs to be satisfied

(sorry Bob, we shouldn't be having fun with a non-native speaker...I wish my Mandarin was 1% as good)


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Re: Hainan hell....

Postby rickettyrabbit » Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:32 am

^ I don't think so, tihZ. And Bob isn't one of the 50 cent crowd, either. I think he's a sincere guy.
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