





maximus1 wrote:houses in the desert. rich dad, poor dad - he teaches such good lessons!

maximus1 wrote:houses in the desert. rich dad, poor dad - he teaches such good lessons!

brokenfishing wrote:Chinese buyers flooded not only USA, but (at least as i know) : Japan, Singapore, UK..
Can you imagine if they also have another purpose...like find safer place for own rich arses ?![]()
Imho.


phiota wrote:I think it is more attractive on a rental income basis and safer on a basis of average household income vs value of property. The main negative is the bearish view of the US economy in a flat/global world...but with Shanghai/China property values going up already so much all of this risk is IMO already priced in.
I'm heading back next month and will be looking to invest in maybe a inexpensive property in Vegas for more rental income.


ayall wrote:maximus1 wrote:houses in the desert. rich dad, poor dad - he teaches such good lessons!


Doroto wrote:I agree. However, my client wants to target a broad pool of Chinese buyers.








Doroto wrote:No one knows what will happen esp in the context of China market.



bleepingbleeper wrote:great. all the US needs now is another RE bubble, this time propped up by the rich chinese.


Doroto wrote:US subprime crisis is due to US people's overconsumption, high levarage, and low-saving.

Doroto wrote:bleepingbleeper wrote:great. all the US needs now is another RE bubble, this time propped up by the rich chinese.
You know better than I do that US subprime crisis is due to US people's overconsumption, high levarage, and low-saving. That is not the style of Chinese people. That is probably the reason the Chinese property market has been kept on track for so many crazy years.
I guess the Chinese money can be beneficial to US sluggish economy in a short run.

drunk wrote:Doroto wrote:US subprime crisis is due to US people's overconsumption, high levarage, and low-saving.
Or because: banks gave loans with zero down payments / to people who has not stable work or credit rating / and all expectation for the future was too bright / american property market has not big brother who continuously increase land prices.

Doroto wrote:You know better than I do that US subprime crisis is due to US people's overconsumption, high levarage, and low-saving. That is not the style of Chinese people. That is probably the reason the Chinese property market has been kept on track for so many crazy years.


rickettyrabbit wrote:The Chinese property market "kept on track"? That's the funniest thing I've read here in ages. Apartments selling for more than 30 years average gross salary in Shanghai, similar in other major cities, and an estimate of 64 million empty flats in China is "on track" for a major and very disruptive correction. It's a very rare beast - a "double bubble" - price bubble plus supply bubble. I just hope they don't burst rapdily, because I think it would hurt a lot of people everywhere.





p1atl10 wrote:Doroto,
- Is it a good time to invest in real estate in the US.
Home prices are down by 20% to 50%.
So on the face of it.....yes.
- Will the market come back quickly?
No.
So if your aim is a quick buck on a 5 year investment. Bad idea.
Aside from some bubble areas like Las Vegas, LA, New York City, San Francisco the average home appreciation historically runs around 7%.
I know a few folks that have made good money over the years, and even recently, by buying up rental properties and then managing them.
But they manage them themselves.
Management fees for a reputable company to do it for you usually run 30-40% of the rent.
It is a great time to buy if you are looking for a primary residence for yourself you plan to live in for 10-15 years.
Making a single home rental property work as an absentee is always a difficult deal....


Doroto wrote:On the other hand, people talk about bubble, but seldom do they define what bubble is and what standards are used for measuring the bubble.

p1atl10 wrote:Doroto,
- Is it a good time to invest in real estate in the US.
Home prices are down by 20% to 50%.
So on the face of it.....yes.
- Will the market come back quickly?
No.
So if your aim is a quick buck on a 5 year investment. Bad idea.
Aside from some bubble areas like Las Vegas, LA, New York City, San Francisco the average home appreciation historically runs around 7%.
I know a few folks that have made good money over the years, and even recently, by buying up rental properties and then managing them.
But they manage them themselves.
Management fees for a reputable company to do it for you usually run 30-40% of the rent.
It is a great time to buy if you are looking for a primary residence for yourself you plan to live in for 10-15 years.
Making a single home rental property work as an absentee is always a difficult deal....

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