Sorry, I got confused... 10-11k for the 120m2.

I'm looking for a 1 bed flat in Jing'An - budget of between 5500 and 7000 RMB.

What do you recommend as the best value apartment blocks going at the mo?

Top of City, Dagu Lu. One beds in the middle blocks were from 5500 at end of last year. Older blocks possibly cheaper but expect 7000 and up for one beds usually. (this based on the apartments I was shown)

Top of City 1 bed 6,500-7,500rmb 15 minutes walk to Nanjing West metro line 2.

Yunhe Garden 1 bed also 6,500-7,500rmb but 15 minutes walk to Jingan temple.

Cross street : JiangXi Zhong Lu & FuZhou Lu.
Building name : FuZhou Da Lou
Near : E. Nanjing Rd. (less than 10 mins walk)
Size : Walk in closet + 1 bath and loft bed room
Price : RMB 5300

How's mine?

If its the one in Fuzhou Road 107, Jiangxi Road 170, this is a little over-priced.
Apartments there ranges from 3000- 4000, around 55m2 size. For 5,300rmb, it must be newly renovated, probably around 60-70m2.

If not, you are way too generous!

Thanks man!

Yeah, I knew I was paying too much. It was my first place here in Shanghai without consulting forums or friends ... Honestly, I didn't know I got so ripped until I had more time to read the forums all day long.

Oh well! Just living the contract out so I don't lose a deposit.

This is an interesting thread, let me give my apartment a try, any insight as to whether the price is fair is much appreciated:

Cross Street: Xujiahui Road / Madang Road
Complex: Yong Ye
Size: 146 sq meters
Apartment: Situated on 31st floor with partial views of SWFC, Jinmao, Pearl Tower and full view of Lupu bridge on the other side
Price: RMB 10,500 / Month

Thanks!

bench_body wrote:

wibel wrote:Often, the shell around something says nothing at all about the inside. To each his/her own. But 18000 for a 89 sqm appartement sounds terribly overpriced. Even if the taps are made out of pure gold, one should not pay such a price for that. After all, the water that comes out of those taps is of the same quality as anywhere else in Shanghai.

Word from a guy who lives in a studio-type flat, 8 sqm, with shared bathroom and kitchen worth 900rmb/month I suppose

Nice assumption, but you're wrong as usual. I have a full 4 sqm and me and my partner share it with another couple. The shared bathroom and kitchen is non-existant and last night a piece of rusty metal what must have been some kind of decoration on the top of the building crushed 34 floors down. Also, we only pay 2000 a year. It's really worth it!

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bench_body wrote:Jia Yuan@Wanhangdu Rd. 458
2 bedroom, 86 sqm
13th floor
5600/month

If you are staying on 1304 building 6, the asking price is 5800rmb for 87.55sqm 2 bedroom apartment. Other flats on the 13th floor costs around 6k-6.5k

Which means you got it at a fair price @ 5,600rmb.

What about a 3bed,2bath apartment same compound? I'll be moving soon and now looking around. Budget 7000 rmb max. Any idea?

Thanks!

270, Wuxing Road
Old style apartment
approximately 60m2
>10 floors..RMB4.3k, Is it ex?

No 15 Yixue Yuan rd, near Da Mu Qiao and Dinesty restaurant,3rd floor, newly refurbished - 60sqm
5500 incl fapio?

and 5 min walk to Jiashan metro line 9

wibel wrote:

bench_body wrote:

wibel wrote:Often, the shell around something says nothing at all about the inside. To each his/her own. But 18000 for a 89 sqm appartement sounds terribly overpriced. Even if the taps are made out of pure gold, one should not pay such a price for that. After all, the water that comes out of those taps is of the same quality as anywhere else in Shanghai.

Word from a guy who lives in a studio-type flat, 8 sqm, with shared bathroom and kitchen worth 900rmb/month I suppose

Nice assumption, but you're wrong as usual. I have a full 4 sqm and me and my partner share it with another couple. The shared bathroom and kitchen is non-existant and last night a piece of rusty metal what must have been some kind of decoration on the top of the building crushed 34 floors down. Also, we only pay 2000 a year. It's really worth it!

Uhhh! Can I move in?! I want to upgrade!

Sun Wonderland. At the corner of Hennan Nan Lu & Fuxing Lu. Opposite of Yuyuan Garden
Walking distance to Line 10 & Line 8 (Lao Xi Men)
33rd fl. 310sqm for ¥20K/month

canuckian wrote:Sun Wonderland. At the corner of Hennan Nan Lu & Fuxing Lu. Opposite of Yuyuan Garden
Walking distance to Line 10 & Line 8 (Lao Xi Men)
33rd fl. 310sqm for ¥20K/month

Sun Wonderland is an excellent compound with view of the pearl tower. Convenient to shops malls, historic old shanghai street and also metro line 10. The highest floor I know is 32nd floor and with layout of around 280m2, is already around 30k/month. So given its on the top floor and 310m2, and for 20k?

I think it's either unreal or you got extremely lucky with an offer like that.

Westgate Garden @ Laoximen. 8000 rmb a month. 2BD, 109m2. 31st floor.

Everywhere I look says 10k+ a month, so I'm assuming it's good.

Hello,

can you please give me a rough idea for what kind of price range I can find a 4 or 5 bedroom apartment/house for rent in Huacao area (close to BISS-Puxi school, 111 Jinguang Road, Huacao Town, Minhang, Shanghai, 201107)?

Two quite general questions, I hope someone can help me:
(I will move from Europe to Shanghai in autumn and know next to nothing about the property market in Shanghai)

1. Size of apartments in squaremeter: I noticed that very often the squaremeters sound very high compared to the number of bedrooms, for example 3 bedroom apartment - 200 sqm. In most European big cities a 3 bedroom apartment would be below 100 sqm. Are the sizes in general overstated or are all the room just very big?

2. Are most places for rent furnished or unfurnished?

Many thanks in advance to anyone who can help!

The large sqm to bedroom ratio is called wasted space by the locals. The appartments have very big open plan living areas, dinning room and recption, then just 2 bedrooms stuck in the corners. This makes appartment blocks very cheap to build. In a lot of appartments you can see thru the windows from front to back. It is possible to find 3 bedroom appartment, mine is a 100sqm with 3 bedrooms, but it in a lowrise chinese compound.

Most appartments are rent furnished.

monalisalee wrote:Marvin:
1. Minhang is a HUGE area, and prices will be less than Shanghai proper, and you may be a long way away, so need to check with agents close to the places you mention.
2. The square metres are calculated from centre wall to centre wall, so this can make a big difference.
Back home the calculation is "usable space"
Also in the case of apartments, there are common areas, that are not included, such as hallways leading to elevators, reception area, etc, and are not included in the square metres, but you get to use.
3. At least 95% apartments are furnished, and most can be changed to some extent by negotiation.

Thanks for your answers, Monalisalee and Mister Happy!

I understand the squaremeters now better, so indeed huge living / reception room and not much bedroom. The way the square meters are calculated sounds similar to hear, so it is good to know that this is someting to go by.

Now I hope somebody can give me a better idea abou the prices

I think my flat was under price! Lolll...a 240 square meter with 3 level, big house with nice garden, and located at yan an xi road. 5 minute walk to jiang su road station, line 2, walking distance 20 minute to jing an SI. 5k for a room! Utilities share. Looking for 3 housemate. Interest call me at 130 6196 3119

Purely my point of view & my current estimation of going rates. I've stayed 8 years in shanghai & moved several locations.

Xuhui district (Dapu road vicinity) - less than 10 year apartment: 2 b/rm (80-90 sqm +/-) should be around 6000-7000 max! (Unless it is very nicely reno & you cannot resist, otherwise i don't think you should pay more than that.)
above 10 year old: 2 b/rm maybe less 500-1000.

Xintiandi area: the prices in this area is crazy,there are old ones like Chui Hu going for 10-13K, & richgate going for like 20K ? (never really into this area so i did not really go through the actual rate in this place.)

liyuan road cluster: yongye is the only one in this area that is the most expensive. 2 or 3 b/rm will ask for around 10-13K. But i feel good deal would be around 8.5K to 11.5K max ! The rest of the projects in this cluster should be within 7K -7.3K budget for a 2 b/rm. the old ones in this area should be less than 6K. I personally like Haiyue Garden just across, value for money although it is old. 2 b/rm going for less than 6.5 K, project is well maintained.

French Concession (Hunan road cluster/ yongjia road cluster/ wanping road cluster)(pls add +/- 3 roads to these roads，anything further than 3 traffic junctions from the abv rds, price may differ): The best in french concession, 2 proper b/rms (70 sqm)with living r/ms & toilets 2nd flr upwards will be estimated 7k-9k. With garden on 1 flr or roof terrace the closing price should be at 8.5k to within 11k depending on reno. Old timers in this are would know that not all units in this area has toilets in it or some even have b/rms seperated, i call this strange layout. You see in this cluster, there are lots of 2nd landlord (or rather sub-lease) which hopes to make money out of it by asking 20K for 2 b/rms. I personally think it is over price unless you cannot resist. Take your time in this area as every unit is different after reno & you would be surprise on maybe your next unit you see. Just make sure you are renting from the actual landlord & not sub-lease & your price should be fine. Also tell tale signs of how your landlord is in this area, they like to use terms like "retro style", but i personally define as reno in retro & not "no reno" which a lot of people like using "no reno" as retro style, there is a huge difference! This is a nice area if you like the old shanghainess style of living. Worth considering only if price is right ! A lot of over-price units.

Jingan area: 1 park/ 8 park & 2 more other projects along xikang road which i cannot remember the names is de more expensive ones in this area. 2 b/rms will go ard 9k - 12k max ! anything higher is considered expensive.The rest of the projects older than 10 years should be ard 7k-8.5k max ! Older than 20 years should go about 5-7K max. But old units will differ from "old government housing" & "old highrise apartments" Those less than 6 flrs should be slightly more expensive than old highrise units with elevators especially those well-reno.

These are all only in my point of view & i hope i did not offend anyone who is renting higher as the are lots of points of consideration & it may differ a bit on the pricing.

OU812 wrote:Westgate Garden @ Laoximen. 8000 rmb a month. 2BD, 109m2. 31st floor.

Everywhere I look says 10k+ a month, so I'm assuming it's good.

Sorry dude, but i think Laoximen is over-price ! Too many investors in this area. What i think reasonable is 6k-7.5k max ! I have a frd who used to live there mid-level unit who paid 6.5k (with fapiao) for 2 b/rm unit. But i do know a japanese paying for a super large unit of 3 or 4 bedrooms at about 18k coz he asked for cash back, in actual he paid about 15k.

How can we able to find the value of our house? what are the main factors responsible for increase our flat price.

if there is a matter of money then i think every one have an issue that their flat overpriced as compare to provided facility.