Local Women vs Western Women - No competition?
Local Women vs Western Women - No competition?
I had a white female friend from the US ask me the other day this question (obviously not in these words)... quite frankly i didnt want to offend her as she's my friend. I really honestly dont know what to say.
But i mean- do any of you even go after western women anymore??? I honestly don't.
In my case, with so much local "eye-candy" to go around and being so easy to date them, I literally don't even pay attention to western women anymore. It's not that they are bad people (and i've had western girlfriends back in US). Every week I literally have at least 3-5 new chinese women wanting to date me (and many initiating to see me again) that i meet from coffee shops, my neighborhood, bars and clubs and even the internet. Many of them are good by chinese standards with big doe eyes, small/pointy chin, good nose, white skin, tall/thin, fashionable, heels, etc. At least my chinese firneds tell me.
And im not even bragging as im sure you have had this experience too - keep in mind that I'm an average looking guy that makes decent salary with a cool personality. I'm sure many other expat males share the same experience as me! I just literally have so many local options that I forget western women - even when i see them!
Honestly, me and my mates feel that local women are waaaaay better in every way (personality, family-values, tradition, sense of style, not overweight, better-looking, know how to dress, can treat a man right, etc) the only disadvantage i see with local women is that a many of them don;t know English - which is fine for me, but a lot of my mates don't like it because they dont speak chinese. Please remmeber that i mean that local women are more attractive than western women (in shanghai and abroad) - on average only, not absolute.
I really don't know what to say to this friend of mine from the US though LOL.
Thoughts?
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You are right that guys are just spoilt for choice when it comes to girls here. The truth is that a 5/10 western guy can get a 7-8/10 chinese girl (so why would he go for a western girl where the best he could probably get would be 6/10).
Therefore to compete, western girls need to lower their standards (which is not acceptable to most people). The other option is to date local guys.
Don't really agree with you in your feelings that local girls are better in every way than western girls. Probably for a short term thing, yes but in the long term cultural differences can really give you some troubles. A good portion of what you see early in a relationship is put on for show (in any culture).
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The difference is that Chinese girls might be looking for things that are beyond love,sex and exoticism in their "love"for western guys like greencard,or unrealistic romantic thoughts of escaping the reality via marriage, but the western girls will probably be able to date the local guys more purely on the love,sex and exoticism base.
Actually, Chinese guys admire western girls, but most of them will just remain them in their dreams, instead of going after them in action as most of them would be suspicious if their d*cks are big enough...
So if the western girls initiate dating the Chinese guys, they would probably feel thrilled...
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- not assertive/manly enough
- not humorous enough (i think this might be a language or culture barrier though)
- not interesting / well-traveled enough
- most likely to listen to their parents without independent thinking or action (Chinese culture) and thus the parents are less open to them having western girlfriends
- most local guys tend to lack excellent hygiene - not my words!
- most live boring lives (go to boring jobs that their parents set up for them via family guanxi if they are rich, come home and play videogames or go smoke with friends at ktv, get hookers, etc)
Please note that the above is what i hear from other western female feedback - NOT my opinion! Not all of my local buddies do the above.
And as for the long-term with local guys, it's typically impossible because many western women plan to eventually go back to the West at some point - after their contract, business, etc is finished. That's something most local parents don't accept. As for the very top 3-5% of local guys in terms of attractiveness/status in Sh, i believe they already have chinese girlfriends (or a plentiful supply of orbits) and plus their parents typically would not allow them to get western girlfriends where there is a massive long-term cultural gap (again, listening to parents, not necessarily reality).
So i don't think local guys is a very realistic option for most western women. Again i say most, because I do know of a very very rare few who are very fascinated by chinese culture and would only date local - but this is NOT the majority.
I have a UK friend whom is married... and his wife constantly worries about local women trying to have an affair her husband. I would be if i was in her shoes as well....
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xrave3 wrote:As for dating local guys, my opinion is that most (large majority) of western women from the US/UK/etc are not open to this option because they find local guys to be (rightfully so or not):
- not assertive/manly enough
- not humorous enough (i think this might be a language or culture barrier though)
- not interesting / well-traveled enough
- most likely to listen to their parents without independent thinking or action (Chinese culture) and thus the parents are less open to them having western girlfriends
- most local guys tend to lack excellent hygiene - not my words!
- most live boring lives (go to boring jobs that their parents set up for them via family guanxi if they are rich, come home and play videogames or go smoke with friends at ktv, get hookers, etc)
Please note that the above is what i hear from other western female feedback - NOT my opinion! Not all of my local buddies do the above.
And as for the long-term with local guys, it's typically impossible because many western women plan to eventually go back to the West at some point - after their contract, business, etc is finished. That's something most local parents don't accept. As for the very top 3-5% of local guys in terms of attractiveness/status in Sh, i believe they already have chinese girlfriends (or a plentiful supply of orbits) and plus their parents typically would not allow them to get western girlfriends where there is a massive long-term cultural gap (again, listening to parents, not necessarily reality).
So i don't think local guys is a very realistic option for most western women. Again i say most, because I do know of a very very rare few who are very fascinated by chinese culture and would only date local - but this is NOT the majority.
I have a UK friend whom is married... and his wife constantly worries about local women trying to have an affair her husband. I would be if i was in her shoes as well....
I saw very interesting components in your 2 posts here.
In the first post, when you talk about the local girls, you only use a few perceptual phraising words without any mention to their weakness in whatever way, but in the second post, you use very speedy reaction with great logic and rationality to describe the local guys, mostly about their defects.
I have a question: do the Chinese girls and guys live under the same culture, which will make them have the same traits of character?
Honestly, as one apprantly western guy, how do you receive the idea of western girls dating the Chinese guys ignoring the short or long term suitability of the relationship.
Most Chinese guys hate the idea of Chinese girls dating the western guys....you could see frequent curses in the Chinese forums about the relationship...

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Many single laowai men who come to Shanghai, are probably opened to the options of having local girlfriends. The cultural differences and upbringing ethics are definitely different and this would make it even more interesting to date a local here.
I assume that the first few months of dating would be still at the stage of getting to know each other. Testing the grounds.
A mature, experienced laowai men would have cared less about the nationality of the girl. He'ld probably be more interested in building a relationship with someone who shares his values, right from the beginning of getting to know each other.
But I agree with Christin90 that many local gals just play submissive to get a laowai until the "fish" hooked on. Have heard several similar stories before.
I still remember one incident at Sasha about a year ago. Young bloke was inlove with a chinese gal. She was sweet and gentle when they first got together(1 month). At a gettogether at Sasha(about 3 -4 months later!), she completely flipped out and threw tantrums at the boyfriend becoz he wouldnt get her scrambled eggs. What a big show with that boy running after her.
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xrave3 wrote:And im not even bragging
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constantchina wrote:I have a question: do the Chinese girls and guys live under the same culture, which will make them have the same traits of character?
I agree with you Constant:
I think the OP, is not very bright............. and that is why he can't see that the bad things that we can say about Chinese men also apply to the women
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leetanya wrote:A mature, experienced laowai men would have cared less about the nationality of the girl. He'ld probably be more interested in building a relationship with someone who shares his values, right from the beginning of getting to know each other.
^Are you sure???, I know several HORROR stories that probe the opposite. You would expect that people of certain age should know better, sadly they don't.
Kinda funny, or not
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leetanya wrote:I still remember one incident at Sasha about a year ago. Young bloke was inlove with a chinese gal. She was sweet and gentle when they first got together(1 month). At a gettogether at Sasha(about 3 -4 months later!), she completely flipped out and threw tantrums at the boyfriend becoz he wouldnt get her scrambled eggs. What a big show with that boy running after her.
Ja, yes I've seen several of those many many many times. Funny because Chinese women get the reputation of been submissive but the only bitches I've seen pulling tantrums are Chinese.
Crazy, Crazy world.
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condesa wrote:I think the OP, is not very bright............. and that is why he can't see that the bad things that we can say about Chinese men also apply to the women![]()
Apparently a western woman who's getting a tad bit fed-up of the sea - no need
The mention of local guys is how they are seen by western women - from what myself and my peers hear all the time (their freinds, wives, girlfriends , etc). I even mentioned in the above post that it does not reflect my opinion nor the reality of my local friends.
And yes I'll admit local women have flaws just as any humans. Like I mentioned, several of my western friends wish they spoke English, etc etc.
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My point is that sometimes girls just assume that stereotype is correct and dont give guys a chance.
You have, yourself stated that you won't look twice at a western girl that is anywhere near your league (paraphrasing a little I know). But a lot of western guys here are the same.
So girls can either 1) go for the old, boring slob 2) remain celebate 3) go for a local.
Personally I think 2 and 3 are the only reasnoble options.
And in a city of 20 million even if only 1% of guys don't fit that stereotype there are still way more good local guys than good westeners.
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xrave3 wrote:condesa wrote:I think the OP, is not very bright............. and that is why he can't see that the bad things that we can say about Chinese men also apply to the women![]()
Apparently a western woman who's getting a tad bit fed-up of the sea - no need
The mention of local guys is how they are seen by western women - from what myself and my peers hear all the time (their freinds, wives, girlfriends , etc). I even mentioned in the above post that it does not reflect my opinion nor the reality of my local friends.
And yes I'll admit local women have flaws just as any humans. Like I mentioned, several of my western friends wish they spoke English, etc etc.
Another curious question for you:
Have you ever heard the friends, boyfriends,hubbies,etc. of you and your peers talking about bad things about Chinese women?
I heard some complaints about Chinese women like they tend to be control freaks from western ex-boyfriends or ex-hubbies who used to date or marry Chinese women....
And there are some in this thread already.
As an idiom says a male tends to judge women by the lower part of his body.
If you tried to date a few local girls each week(not sure if you were bragging or not), I assume that you were not serious at all, or you were just trying to get some sex from the dates, so you only needed to recognize the lip-deep or erotic things of an opposite sex without having to worry about their characteristics.
The problem is that the girls might get very disappointed if you just date them for the purpose of dating or sex without even thinking of going to further... in most cases, women definitely don't date for sex or for nothing...
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Does anyone even go after western women anymore?"
Only the very hottest of Chinese women compare to the women I see in Shanghai that come from Spain, Italy, France, Russia etc.
Lots of smoke and mirrors with the locals, though there are sure some peaches for sure.
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condesa wrote:leetanya wrote:A mature, experienced laowai men would have cared less about the nationality of the girl. He'ld probably be more interested in building a relationship with someone who shares his values, right from the beginning of getting to know each other.
^Are you sure???, I know several HORROR stories that probe the opposite. You would expect that people of certain age should know better, sadly they don't.![]()
Kinda funny, or not
I understand what you mean, that's why I wrote 'Mature" and that certainly excludes those silly old foggies who think they are still young at heart, going after young flesh...Speaking of that, I see those mismatch couples at Bakers n spice more often than at starbucks or in a hotel lounge. Late 50s or 60s men with woman in their 20s. More often than not, these ladies cant speak english very well. But come to think of it, I think you hardly need verbal skills, rather physical ones though.
Sorry, I should have meant "mature in thinking" in my previous post.
Another story to tell..one of my ex-colleague is currently having a problem with his young wife. Wife refuses to go back with him to England, not even to visit her inlaws. They both have a 3 year old son and, nope, he doesnt speak much english. The wife agreed to having their son enrolled eventually in an international school ($$$$) here, when he is of age but that is about it. Threatened to bring her son to Anhui if he were to bring up that topic again.
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xrave3 wrote:As for dating local guys, my opinion is that most (large majority) of western women from the US/UK/etc are not open to this option because they find local guys to be (rightfully so or not):
- not assertive/manly enough
- not humorous enough (i think this might be a language or culture barrier though)
- not interesting / well-traveled enough
- most likely to listen to their parents without independent thinking or action (Chinese culture) and thus the parents are less open to them having western girlfriends
- most local guys tend to lack excellent hygiene - not my words!
- most live boring lives (go to boring jobs that their parents set up for them via family guanxi if they are rich, come home and play videogames or go smoke with friends at ktv, get hookers, etc)
Please note that the above is what i hear from other western female feedback - NOT my opinion! Not all of my local buddies do the above.
And as for the long-term with local guys, it's typically impossible because many western women plan to eventually go back to the West at some point - after their contract, business, etc is finished. That's something most local parents don't accept. As for the very top 3-5% of local guys in terms of attractiveness/status in Sh, i believe they already have chinese girlfriends (or a plentiful supply of orbits) and plus their parents typically would not allow them to get western girlfriends where there is a massive long-term cultural gap (again, listening to parents, not necessarily reality).
So i don't think local guys is a very realistic option for most western women. Again i say most, because I do know of a very very rare few who are very fascinated by chinese culture and would only date local - but this is NOT the majority.
I have a UK friend whom is married... and his wife constantly worries about local women trying to have an affair her husband. I would be if i was in her shoes as well....
I think one question that most Chinese guys would like to ask is how the sizes influence the western girl and Chinese guy relationship? You didn't mention that part. What is your opinions about that? Are the sizes crucial to the relationship?
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leetanya wrote:condesa wrote:leetanya wrote:A mature, experienced laowai men would have cared less about the nationality of the girl. He'ld probably be more interested in building a relationship with someone who shares his values, right from the beginning of getting to know each other.
^Are you sure???, I know several HORROR stories that probe the opposite. You would expect that people of certain age should know better, sadly they don't.![]()
Kinda funny, or not
I understand what you mean, that's why I wrote 'Mature" and that certainly excludes those silly old foggies who think they are still young at heart, going after young flesh...Speaking of that, I see those mismatch couples at Bakers n spice more often than at starbucks or in a hotel lounge. Late 50s or 60s men with woman in their 20s. More often than not, these ladies cant speak english very well. But come to think of it, I think you hardly need verbal skills, rather physical ones though.![]()
Sorry, I should have meant "mature in thinking" in my previous post.
Another story to tell..one of my ex-colleague is currently having a problem with his young wife. Wife refuses to go back with him to England, not even to visit her inlaws. They both have a 3 year old son and, nope, he doesnt speak much english. The wife agreed to having their son enrolled eventually in an international school ($$$$) here, when he is of age but that is about it. Threatened to bring her son to Anhui if he were to bring up that topic again.
1. I wouldn't want to go to england when i live in shanghai
2. locals don't need to speak english, it's not their language
3. as a chinese, we often regard those who can't speak english that aren't interested in foreigners, and good looking in chinese views.
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constantchina wrote:I think one question that most Chinese guys would like to ask is how the sizes influence the western girl and Chinese guy relationship? You didn't mention that part. What is your opinions about that? Are the sizes crucial to the relationship?![]()
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I'm not a female expat so i can't really comment
I did not add this in the list of characteristics because... 1. I never hear this reason from the western women that tell me about local guys AND 2. i think it's offensive in an unfair, irrational, almost racist fashion (western women can only guess based on stereotypes etc)
Furthermore, c'mon if you think I'm bragging, then I'd say 75% of the <40 single expat male population will be seen as "bragging" just by telling the truth of their experiences. Ask them.
It's not bragging. It's the REAL market dynamics of this city.
Ask any expat guy who is cleancut, decently-humorous, OK-looking, has manners, treats women well/gentlemenly (not that hard) - he'll tell you Shanghai is an amazing place for finding great-quality women to be-friend and date.
Even if an expat male wasn't as social as myself, he'd still have at least 1 date/suitor a week or two, as long as he wasn't a hermit. There's nothing special about me because getting dates seems to come naturally to expat guys in shanghai. A few of my younger mates are literally swamped .... and if they frequent clubs like Muse, M1Nt, Eden, etc I know it's not uncommon for an expat male to have up to 10 potential dates/women chatting with them every week (I dont have the time anymore). I will end that topic here because the point of this is not to give the impression that I praise such behavior - quite the opposite.
Frankly, I admit that few of them turn into long-term relationships, because we all get picky on who we wish to spend our time with.
As for Chinese women being "control freaks" ... trust me - I've had quite a few girlfriends back in US which fit that mold to the Nth degree
I'm sure the Chinese flavor is different, but it all boils down to the same.
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xrave3 wrote:constantchina wrote:I think one question that most Chinese guys would like to ask is how the sizes influence the western girl and Chinese guy relationship? You didn't mention that part. What is your opinions about that? Are the sizes crucial to the relationship?![]()
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I'm not a female expat so i can't really comment
I did not add this in the list of characteristics because... 1. I never hear this reason from the western women that tell me about local guys AND 2. i think it's offensive in an unfair, irrational, almost racist fashion (western women can only guess based on stereotypes etc)
Furthermore, c'mon if you think I'm bragging, then I'd say 75% of the <40 single expat male population will be seen as "bragging" just by telling the truth of their experiences. Ask them.
It's not bragging. It's the REAL market dynamics of this city.
Ask any expat guy who is cleancut, decently-humorous, OK-looking, has manners, treats women well/gentlemenly (not that hard) - he'll tell you Shanghai is an amazing place for finding great-quality women to be-friend and date.
Even if an expat male wasn't as social as myself, he'd still have at least 1 date/suitor a week or two, as long as he wasn't a hermit. There's nothing special about me because getting dates seems to come naturally to expat guys in shanghai. A few of my younger mates are literally swamped .... and if they frequent clubs like Muse, M1Nt, Eden, etc I know it's not uncommon for an expat male to have up to 10 potential dates/women chatting with them every week (I dont have the time anymore). I will end that topic here because the point of this is not to give the impression that I praise such behavior - quite the opposite.
Frankly, I admit that few of them turn into long-term relationships, because we all get picky on who we wish to spend our time with.
As for Chinese women being "control freaks" ... trust me - I've had quite a few girlfriends back in US which fit that mold to the Nth degree- as much as they were great people, they also got insecure, jealous easily, threw fits, etc etc as ANY normal woman who cares for you would at times.
I'm sure the Chinese flavor is different, but it all boils down to the same.
Why we have to end the topic if it is so interesting?
I guess quite some local girls go to some pubs, bars and clubs etc. in Hengshan Road etc. where foreign guys frequently visit to fish properspective foreign boyfriends or hubbies...Chinese guys call them "fishing girls", if you can read Chinese, look at this article:
http://hi.baidu.com/erwynrygncboqwq/ite ... 4afb5768b6
One tenant we had here was quite a good looking Amercan guy in his 30s, and I saw he was all by himself all the time, no girl at all. He probably worked hard day and night without visiting those places......
People from different cultures fall in love more easily because of the misteries of the cultures, but one guy gets up to 10 dates each week is definitely abnormal. He just happens to be in some places that are full of fishers or hookers.
I assume most of Shanghai girls woo the foreign guys for the purpose of marriage as they anticipate that having a relationship with a foreign guy offers a good chance to immediately change their hard life in reality, also they think marrying a foreign guy is a stylish life to be admired by their peers...Shanghai women are famous in China for “worshiping things foreign and fawning on foreign countries” because most of them have never visited any places outside China and they presume the foreign countries are full of gold on the roads....
Look at the girl in the picture in the pubs. It is definitely not her normal way of dressing, she probably thinks that little stupid red underclothes of Chinese traditional style is something fancinating,charming and sexually appealing to foreigners to increase her chance of finding a foreign husband....

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Jennster wrote:leetanya wrote:condesa wrote:leetanya wrote:A mature, experienced laowai men would have cared less about the nationality of the girl. He'ld probably be more interested in building a relationship with someone who shares his values, right from the beginning of getting to know each other.
^Are you sure???, I know several HORROR stories that probe the opposite. You would expect that people of certain age should know better, sadly they don't.![]()
Kinda funny, or not
I understand what you mean, that's why I wrote 'Mature" and that certainly excludes those silly old foggies who think they are still young at heart, going after young flesh...Speaking of that, I see those mismatch couples at Bakers n spice more often than at starbucks or in a hotel lounge. Late 50s or 60s men with woman in their 20s. More often than not, these ladies cant speak english very well. But come to think of it, I think you hardly need verbal skills, rather physical ones though.![]()
Sorry, I should have meant "mature in thinking" in my previous post.
Another story to tell..one of my ex-colleague is currently having a problem with his young wife. Wife refuses to go back with him to England, not even to visit her inlaws. They both have a 3 year old son and, nope, he doesnt speak much english. The wife agreed to having their son enrolled eventually in an international school ($$$$) here, when he is of age but that is about it. Threatened to bring her son to Anhui if he were to bring up that topic again.
1. I wouldn't want to go to england when i live in shanghai
2. locals don't need to speak english, it's not their language
3. as a chinese, we often regard those who can't speak english that aren't interested in foreigners, and good looking in chinese views.
Are you a troll or just narrow minded?????
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Jennster wrote:leetanya wrote:condesa wrote:leetanya wrote:A mature, experienced laowai men would have cared less about the nationality of the girl. He'ld probably be more interested in building a relationship with someone who shares his values, right from the beginning of getting to know each other.
^Are you sure???, I know several HORROR stories that probe the opposite. You would expect that people of certain age should know better, sadly they don't.![]()
Kinda funny, or not
I understand what you mean, that's why I wrote 'Mature" and that certainly excludes those silly old foggies who think they are still young at heart, going after young flesh...Speaking of that, I see those mismatch couples at Bakers n spice more often than at starbucks or in a hotel lounge. Late 50s or 60s men with woman in their 20s. More often than not, these ladies cant speak english very well. But come to think of it, I think you hardly need verbal skills, rather physical ones though.![]()
Sorry, I should have meant "mature in thinking" in my previous post.
Another story to tell..one of my ex-colleague is currently having a problem with his young wife. Wife refuses to go back with him to England, not even to visit her inlaws. They both have a 3 year old son and, nope, he doesnt speak much english. The wife agreed to having their son enrolled eventually in an international school ($$$$) here, when he is of age but that is about it. Threatened to bring her son to Anhui if he were to bring up that topic again.
1. I wouldn't want to go to england when i live in shanghai
2. locals don't need to speak english, it's not their language
3. as a chinese, we often regard those who can't speak english that aren't interested in foreigners, and good looking in chinese views.
So? what are your driving at, since you drew whole reference to my comment?
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Jennster wrote:1. I wouldn't want to go to england when i live in shanghai
Of course not. Why should you go to a country with culture? You would not feel comfortable there. Don't do it.
2. locals don't need to speak english, it's not their language
But speaking English makes it easier to rip-off foreigners. Think about it. It has it advantages.
3. as a chinese, we often regard those who can't speak english that aren't interested in foreigners, and good looking in chinese views.
Sorry, but did you just try to form a complete sentence? Sort of hard to understand what you mean.
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Basil Fawlty - LoopKicker

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Re: Local Women vs Western Women - No competition?
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Re: Local Women vs Western Women - No competition?
Ariel85 wrote:Honestly, most men are into western women. I don't believe you've read the guidlines for posting anyway(offensive material). The kind of men who generally into Asian (local) women are old, kinda chubby or socially limited. There"s beautiful girls from Italy, Scandinavia, South America, Russia. Really you are in the minority if you just talk to (good looking) men. I'm not trying to be mean, but it's true. White guys who "prefer" or the only ones who could have them, are white guys I don't find attractive in the first place. Please don't act like this is your choice. You also demoralize women so that's a big red flag there. You can say nice things about asian women, sure. But don't act racist please or act like you speak for all men. I know plenty of French or Eastern European Men who only date their own women because they proudly say they have the best. Asian women are great; some of my best friends are. But no on should use these racist steotypes.
Ahhh I see, thank you for the explanation. Now I finally understand. When I was living in Holland I was attracted to Asian women, but now I understand, I am socially limited and chubby!
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san5324 - Veejay

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Re: Local Women vs Western Women - No competition?
Ariel85 wrote:White guys who "prefer" or the only ones who could have them, are white guys I don't find attractive in the first place.
Sad.....but true, although in his defence OP already admitted he's no Don Juan
xrave3 wrote:...keep in mind that I'm an average looking guy that makes decent salary with a cool personality
even if you don't want to do it
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Re: Local Women vs Western Women - No competition?
constantchina wrote:People from different cultures fall in love more easily because of the misteries of the cultures,
I know local Chinese friends whom have gone to the US and felt very differently about American women (their culture was very different from your typical red-white-and-blue American). Even they still felt it was MUCH easier to meet women and get dates here in their homeland.
Guess for them, once you go Chinese, you don't really need to look elsewhere
constantchina wrote:but one guy gets up to 10 dates each week is definitely abnormal. He just happens to be in some places that are full of fishers or hookers.
I never said he dated all of them at the same time (that would be a full-time job LOL). I said getting 10 potential dates and women chatting with interest on a weekly basis is very normal for them.
No, they are not hookers or low-quality tramps .... as I've seen some of the women my expat friends date. They all come from well-off families (by local standards, they own a few apartments in nice parts of sh, which I've visited... AND can afford to drive nice cars, which they let their boyfriends drive occassionally even though illegally lol), have gone to good colleges (Shanghai University, Fudan, JiaoDa, or even in the US), and have good attractive personalities. They come out to party only occassionally, sure, but cmon don't the majority of young people do that anyways? Definitely not a hooker by local , or even foregin standards.
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xrave3 - Seeker

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Re: Local Women vs Western Women - No competition?
Ariel85 wrote: The kind of men who generally into Asian (local) women are old, kinda chubby or socially limited.
Old? Nah ... I'd like to think im still 18 though
Kinda Chubby? ... yes, you got this one right. Def no washboard abs. I better start working out right?
Socially limited? ... FAR from it. Here or back home
1/3 you lose
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