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Massage Torture

Postby hammerforlife » Mon Jan 24, 2005 10:52 am

Despite the title sounding like a dodgy junk email message nothing too raunchy here. Just that in the attempt to ease my bones after some too intensive gym sessions I look for a place to get a decent massage. The usual magazines have some listings and I have tried 2 places now but both have been pretty unpleasant. The most extreme one was just someone jabbing their fingers into my shoulder and only my shoulder for an hour with the method being to keep pressing harder and harder until I shout. My poor suffering back and legs and arms didn't even get a look in. I had a business in Thailand and have a great place I go to there for the same thing but I have been really put off in Shanghai and am in a bit of pain now. Have I just been unlucky or does this sound normal round here to people?
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Postby Drizzle » Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:14 am

I was tortured not so long ago - first I had a foot massage, and was shrinking in the back of the seat in pain, but kind of thought maybe its supposed to be like that. Then I had a back massage afterwards, and I swear to god, the guy who was doing me, was into S&M. I have never been back for a massage since.
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Postby hammerforlife » Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:19 am

Its a real shame. The Thai massage I was used to was the only cure for a hangover I have ever found that really works.
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Postby urgentculture » Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:01 pm

Well a lot of us out here like this sort of accupressure massage. It always works wonders for my body. Sure sometimes it's painful but the release of toxins and built up tensions are released only with a strong pressure point massage. I actually prefer this Chinese accupressure massage more than Thai or Swedish or Shiatsu. The trick is finding a massuese who is accurate and has intregrity. Not the majority, unfortunately.
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Postby xtina » Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:05 pm

Sorry to hear about your terrible experience hammerforlife.

Have you ever tried Dragonfly? Me and my friends all think it's pretty good, but the price is more of the high end. Then there is another blind message place in my neighborhood I tried once, which was not bad either. I didn't even need to tell the massagist (who was surprisingly not blind) where my sore muscles were; he could just feel them by himself.
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Postby hammerforlife » Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:06 pm

Certainly the theory sounds good. I don't mind a bit of pain if they know what they are doing.
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Postby hammerforlife » Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:12 pm

xtina wrote:Have you ever tried Dragonfly? Me and my friends all think it's pretty good, but the price is more of the high end. Then there is another blind message place in my neighborhood I tried once, which was not bad either. I didn't even need to tell the massagist (who was surprisingly not blind) where my sore muscles were; he could just feel them by himself.


Thanks for that. High end is ok as long as I come out feeling better than when I went in. 8)
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Postby Drizzle » Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:38 pm

Dragonfly was where I went to. Avoid the bloke - ask for a woman.
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Postby xtina » Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:06 pm

Ditto :)
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Postby 42 » Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:24 pm

The most extreme one was just someone jabbing their fingers into my shoulder and only my shoulder for an hour with the method being to keep pressing harder and harder until I shout.


tell them beforehand how strong you like it. most Chinese, for what the massuees tell me, like it really hard. so hard that it hurts. so they are only doing what they think is appropriate pressure.

i found them telling how much at the very beginning saves a lot of pain and makes it much more enjoyable.
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Re: Massage Torture

Postby condesa » Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:33 pm

hammerforlife wrote:Despite the title sounding like a dodgy junk email message nothing too raunchy here. Just that in the attempt to ease my bones after some too intensive gym sessions I look for a place to get a decent massage. The usual magazines have some listings and I have tried 2 places now but both have been pretty unpleasant. The most extreme one was just someone jabbing their fingers into my shoulder and only my shoulder for an hour with the method being to keep pressing harder and harder until I shout. My poor suffering back and legs and arms didn't even get a look in. I had a business in Thailand and have a great place I go to there for the same thing but I have been really put off in Shanghai and am in a bit of pain now. Have I just been unlucky or does this sound normal round here to people?


I go to Yu Massage in Wuyuan rd. (near Wukang rd.) in the French Concession. The place is very nice and they are not as expensive as DragonFly so probably they are more in the mid-range price wise (if you go on the weekends you need to book in advance because they are extremely busy, I tend to walk in during the weekdays after work without a problem).
I usually get the Oil Massage because is more 'friendly' than the Chinese Massage that tends to hurt a lot (and I'm not really up to 'the pain').
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Re: Massage Torture

Postby findus » Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:27 am

condesa wrote:
hammerforlife wrote:Despite the title sounding like a dodgy junk email message nothing too raunchy here. Just that in the attempt to ease my bones after some too intensive gym sessions I look for a place to get a decent massage. The usual magazines have some listings and I have tried 2 places now but both have been pretty unpleasant. The most extreme one was just someone jabbing their fingers into my shoulder and only my shoulder for an hour with the method being to keep pressing harder and harder until I shout. My poor suffering back and legs and arms didn't even get a look in. I had a business in Thailand and have a great place I go to there for the same thing but I have been really put off in Shanghai and am in a bit of pain now. Have I just been unlucky or does this sound normal round here to people?


I go to Yu Massage in Wuyuan rd. (near Wukang rd.) in the French Concession. The place is very nice and they are not as expensive as DragonFly so probably they are more in the mid-range price wise (if you go on the weekends you need to book in advance because they are extremely busy, I tend to walk in during the weekdays after work without a problem).
I usually get the Oil Massage because is more 'friendly' than the Chinese Massage that tends to hurt a lot (and I'm not really up to 'the pain').


Nice thought, but Hammerforlife is now crippled. Thanks to your lateness. I hope you're satisfied.

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Re: Massage Torture

Postby tihZ_hO » Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:08 pm

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Re: Massage Torture

Postby victorinchina » Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:35 pm

At least it was a nice reply, and not some spamming cat stalker...
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Re: Massage Torture

Postby hammerforlife » Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:59 pm

findus wrote:
condesa wrote:
hammerforlife wrote:Despite the title sounding like a dodgy junk email message nothing too raunchy here. Just that in the attempt to ease my bones after some too intensive gym sessions I look for a place to get a decent massage. The usual magazines have some listings and I have tried 2 places now but both have been pretty unpleasant. The most extreme one was just someone jabbing their fingers into my shoulder and only my shoulder for an hour with the method being to keep pressing harder and harder until I shout. My poor suffering back and legs and arms didn't even get a look in. I had a business in Thailand and have a great place I go to there for the same thing but I have been really put off in Shanghai and am in a bit of pain now. Have I just been unlucky or does this sound normal round here to people?


I go to Yu Massage in Wuyuan rd. (near Wukang rd.) in the French Concession. The place is very nice and they are not as expensive as DragonFly so probably they are more in the mid-range price wise (if you go on the weekends you need to book in advance because they are extremely busy, I tend to walk in during the weekdays after work without a problem).
I usually get the Oil Massage because is more 'friendly' than the Chinese Massage that tends to hurt a lot (and I'm not really up to 'the pain').


Nice thought, but Hammerforlife is now crippled. Thanks to your lateness. I hope you're satisfied.

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The good news is that the five years of physiotherapy to cure the problem seems to be paying off. I may even be able to play the piano again some day.
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Re: Massage Torture

Postby KopyKatKiller » Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:16 pm

Where do you get physio, i need a good place to go... Dislocating shoulder...
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Re: Massage Torture

Postby johnny_tropicana » Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:40 am

Jeez, the first thing I do getting off the plane in Shanghai is head over for a massage on Shaanxi an Yongia vicinity, drop my 45 kwai, and walk away feeling good (the14 hours on the plane works wonders
on making me feel like dying)
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Re: Massage Torture

Postby coxaca » Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:01 am

KopyKatKiller wrote:Where do you get physio, i need a good place to go... Dislocating shoulder...


That is unlikely to get better with physio. It's the actual ligamentous capsule which has become stretched, and that can't be coaxed back into place with exercises of any sort.

Strengthening the muscular envelope may be of some minor protective benefit, but probably doesn't do that much. (Although a nice set of delts never sets the womanising cause back...)

Ultimately you are looking at an anterior reconstruction. Easy operation, nasty recovery. I actually had a Bankart fracture/dislocation, which required a pin in the glenoid to hold the fragment back in place. (The fracture was through the socket, so the whole joint was unstable. Yuk.)

Sling for five weeks, knife-like pain requiring opioid analgesia for about three weeks. Three months to get my shoulder to 90 degrees abduction, six months to regain normal range of movement.

Get yourself the best surgeon money can buy, and damn the expense.
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Re: Massage Torture

Postby KopyKatKiller » Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:18 am

^^The military suggested I get physio or an operation, but in Canada the wait time for operating was too long and the physio just got started when I ditched the military scene for Shanghai... It's an old mountain biking injury. Was hitting a ramp and lost the bike and did a 3 meter header into rocks using my arm to shield my head and ripped the effing thing right out! Then tried out the military a few years later and dislocated my shoulder twice right at the get go and effectively ended my officer aspirations... Don't like surgery of any kind though and was hoping deep tissue massage and physio would help... Tried strength training, but devices such as the "peck deck" create a sword piercing pain similar to your recuperative pain....
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Postby bleepingbleeper » Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:27 pm

Drizzle wrote:I was tortured not so long ago - first I had a foot massage, and was shrinking in the back of the seat in pain, but kind of thought maybe its supposed to be like that. Then I had a back massage afterwards, and I swear to god, the guy who was doing me, was into S&M. I have never been back for a massage since.

there's the problem for the OP....
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