I have been offered a part time teaching job wih a reputable company, Carrefour, but they told me I need to give them a fa piao when they pay me. I have never heard of this before, in my past jobs the only fa piao I've ever needed is for housing allowance. For that you go to a real estate office and pay five percent of your rent. Does anyone know what this fa piao is and where I can get one?

I'm not sure if what they want is to get out of tax respinsibilities, or actually legitimate for accounting reasons. I don't mind paying for it, it's worth it for the job, I've just never heard of that kind of fa piao and don't know where to get one. Thanks for the help.

When we employee outside people for goods or services, we usually require them to provide a fa piao, but that's because we are dealing with other companies.

In your case, however, we would pay you directly as an outside employee. It would be your responsibility to pay any taxes you owe as a result. There are some companies, however, who would withhold a flat 10% in taxes and then provide you with a tax receipt.

Perhaps Carrefour thinks you are a company?

Thanks for the reply. They know I'm just an individual. Like I said, I've had many other teaching jobs and never had one requested before. I think what they want is just a reciept saying that I recieved such and such amount of money from them. But since they said it has to be a fa piao, I think its going to have to be shady some how.

Maybe not shady, but probably more like they're anal retentive or incompetent if they don't know how to put payments to you without a fa piao on their books.

Could you ask them for clarification and advice on how to obtain a fa piao? Of you could buy a fake one to give them.

Where can I buy a fake one? I think the monthly salary will be around 4,000RMB.

keeyoung wrote:Where can I buy a fake one? I think the monthly salary will be around 4,000RMB.

I never pay attention to where I find these people, but they are everywhere. Look for cell phone numbers painted on walls or sidewalks. Many of those cell phone spam messages you get are selling fake fa piaos, ID cards, Beijing Univ. degrees and just about anything else imaginable.

i can issue the REAL rental tax invoice. let me know if you need more details.

i can issue the REAL rental tax invoice. let me know if you need more details.

i can issue the REAL rental tax invoice. let me know if you need more details.

It also seems a little strange to me too......I can also help you out with an invoice but I think you should try to go the fake route first. Quite easy actually......Just go down to Shanghai Railway station for a 30 minute walk and listen for the silent whisper.....fapiao....fapiao. Your problems should be solved in no time with a nice book full of them.

keeyoung wrote:I have been offered a part time teaching job wih a reputable company

Any reputable company would not consider hiring someone like you.

As i think, U can apply to local tax office for a kind of receipt for labor cost, that is "代开劳务费发票证明"(dai kai lao wu fei fa piao zheng ming) when u declare your income.

Isn't this a tax receipt rather than a fapiao a company needs for purchases?

It's a fapiao, which the company can deduct its corporate income tax with. Actually i guess that's the reason they ask for it.

There are several kinds of tax receipts. The one you described is a receipt that an individual paid their income tax. A company can not deduct the income tax you paid from their corporate taxes.

What the original poster is talking about is the receipt for services performed or goods provided from one company to another. Failing that, a receipt that the company in question bought deductible goods and services from a commercial outlet.

Sorry for i mentioned the word "receipt". it's a huge mistake.Actually, it's an invoice.(fa piao). The tax office can issue u a fapiao and give u a tax bill receipt by the same time.Taxpayer as Keeyoung can hold his receipt and give the fapiao to the company in question. Then the company can get a deduction from its corparate income tax in the name of training fees. I understand absolutely what u meant above, but the procedure i refered is practical.By the way, I work in tax office, and hoping chat with anyone anything about tax in China.(my En isn't good enough and i always make mistakes.)

No, it's not an invoice. It's a receipt. Fa piao doesn't normally mean invoice. It means receipt. I don't know why every person in China insists on making the same mistake by calling it an invoice.

Now, if I have income that I haven't paid income tax on, I am supposed to go to the tax bureau and tell them and pay the income tax directly to the tax bureau. They will issue me a tax receipt (fa piao). This tax receipt cannot be then given to another company as a fa piao for money they pay for my labor.

What the company that paid me wants is a fa piao (tax receipt) that normally they'd receive from a supplier of goods and services for the total sum of any money they've paid for the goods or services. Can the tax bureau give that to me so I may give that to my customer even though I am just an individual?

underh20 wrote: Can the tax bureau give that to me so I may give that to my customer even though I am just an individual?

Surely U can.And I know the difference between fapiao and receipt.
some qoatation from other sites:
问：个人具有某种技能，为企事业单位提供劳务，但企事业单位需要发票入帐，如何解决？个人是否可以去税务机关开具发票给企事业单位下帐吗？
答：到所属地方税务局申请代开发票。你的情况属于可代开发票的范围内。

附：国家税务总局关于加强和规范税务机关代开普通发票工作的通知
国税函〔2004〕1024号

各省、自治区、直辖市和计划单列市国家税务局、地方税务局：

为了进一步加强和规范税务机关代开普通发票的管理，强化税源监控，更好地维护市场经济秩序，根据《中华人民共和国税收征收管理法》（以下简称《征管法》）及其《实施细则》、《中华人民共和国发票管理办法》（以下简称《发票管理办法》）及其实施细则的有关规定，现将有关代开普通发票问题明确如下：

一、代开发票的概念界定

代开发票，是指由税务机关根据收款方（或提供劳务服务方）的申请，依照法规、规章以及其他规范性文件的规定，代为向付款方（或接受劳务服务方）开具发票的行为。

二、申请代开发票的范围与对象
（一）……
（二）……
（三）……

（四）依法不需要办理税务登记的单位和个人，临时取得收入，需要开具发票的，主管税务机关可以为其代开发票。
Translation:
Q: After providing some service to a company, can I apply for a fa piao from tax bureau as an individual so that the company can use it in accounting.
A:In this case, u can apply to the local tax office to issue a fa piao.
Attachment......
It'll be too much labor for the text after.
Hope u can read a little Chinese, and my explanation can make a little sense.

I have no doubt that tax bureau can give u a fapiao in this case. But the procedure of application may be very confusing~~~That's the real worring~

underh20 wrote:Now, if I have income that I haven't paid income tax on, I am supposed to go to the tax bureau and tell them and pay the income tax directly to the tax bureau. They will issue me a tax receipt (fa piao). This tax receipt cannot be then given to another company as a fa piao for money they pay for my labor.

The tax receipt is not fapiao, it is called 个人所得税完税证明(ge ren suo de shui wan shui zheng ming).

Let me see if I understand.

I can perform some service for a company that is valued at, for example, 10,000 RMB. I am not a company, so I can not issue a fa piao directly. I can go to the tax bureau and explain my situation and they will give me a fa piao for 10,000 RMB that I can give to the company. I must pay the tax bureau the tax on that 10,000 RMB before they give me that fa piao.

Is that correct?

Correct, your Ch is ok.

Ok. Then that is really good. It will help a lot if independant consultants.

Now, another question: A foreigner is only legally allowed to earn income in China if they have a "Z" work visa. How can the tax bureau let me give a fa piao to a company when it is illegal for me to work?

That's beyond my knowing.Maybe u should ask erexchen.He is a lawyer, isn't he? And I noticed half of the posts here is about Visa~~lol