Me, too, but then again I also drink a lot of bai jiu. My liver and stomach are in a race for the chopping board

dogmeat, ohh mean hotdog

It's the fermentation as well that is responsible for the high stomach cancer rates in Korea AND Japan.

Chavster wrote:I've never ever heard an internationally renowned Chef say that what really inspired them and got them into the business was Shanghainese food. When you ask people globally about Chinese food they will immediately reference Cantonese and Sichuan cooking.

Best post ever on Shanghai Expat. . .

Slices right to the heart of Shanghai's existential problem then twists the knife a bit. Good stuff.

LDJS wrote:It's the fermentation as well that is responsible for the high stomach cancer rates in Korea AND Japan.

I agree, as I said, with the pickling, which is tantamount to fermentation. But there's no doubting that the food tastes great. I come from a nation of potatoes and cabbage and the spicier stuff is a welcome change

Best food I've had in Shanghai so far is; Japanese ramen; Tacos at Bulldog; Nachos at bamboo; large soups with fish, rice noodles and ginger etc at good soup restaurant called 'Wild Cuisine' and lamb skewers and dishes at muslim restaurants.

Most spare ribs I've had are pre-cooked and reheated, too dry.

I am in love with this one dish though that is rice with slices of fatty, tender pork which is crispy on the outside edge. Addictive as hell, is the fatty / crispy pork!

Brokentime wrote:

LDJS wrote:It's the fermentation as well that is responsible for the high stomach cancer rates in Korea AND Japan.

I agree, as I said, with the pickling, which is tantamount to fermentation. But there's no doubting that the food tastes great. I come from a nation of potatoes and cabbage and the spicier stuff is a welcome change

Russia?

European.....so Denmark?

Lol, tatoes and cabbage equals Ireland

I was going to say Ireland, especially for the spuds, but brokentime is from Europe.
I am 3/4 Irish, and l love spuds, (tatoes)

Ireland is part of Europe.

No. A member of the European Union. A bunch of water separates them.

Kiwi wrote:

LDJS wrote:

Kiwi wrote:

LDJS wrote:Shanghai peope are closer to artists when it comes to food, in the way Italians or French are

Pretty much a widely held view amongst chefs and food reviewers the world over.

The world outside China maybe. . .

Inside China Shanghainese are notoriously inept cooks.

Finding good Cantonese, Sichuanese, Taiwanese, Uighur, and other regional food in Shanghai is not easy. There is plenty around but it's mostly crap.

Yup, gotta agree with Kiwi here and others on Shanghai cuisine. It all boils down to (pardon the pun) the fact that only a couple of hundred years ago this was a little fishing village which attracted folk from surrounding areas (Ningbo/Jiangsu) and down south in Guandong. The city developed as a trade port and attracted these kind of folk. They weren't devising meals for Emperors and the like so it was all pretty basic stuff and still pretty much is compared to the famous cuisines from other provinces.

If Shanghainees chefs are known worldwide it is probably only because they know how to market and sell to the west better than their fellow country nationals.

Adrienne Farrelly
Shanghai Properties “Expat agents speak YOUR language”
http://www.shanghaiprops.com

monalisalee wrote:No. A member of the European Union. A bunch of water separates them.

No Mona, you're thinking of continental Europe. The UK and Ireland are in Europe, as is Iceland.

monalisalee wrote: A bunch of water separates them.

Priceless John. Just love it.


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Shanghai Properties “Expat agents speak YOUR language”
http://www.shanghaiprops.com

Ireland uses the Euro as currency

And U.K. uses the Pound....funny that.

The official currency for England, Scotland, and Wales, and NORTHERN Ireland is the Great Britain Pound.
The adopted currency in 2002 for Southern Ireland, is the Euro, as they like to be different.
The pound can still be traded there.

Yes so, wouldn't one come to the conclusion that a country using the EURO would be part of Europe? Or you know, just go and do some wiki-fu and find out that they are in fact part of the EU..?

Or whatever floats your rather strange boat, I guess...

I finally tried the famous fried, round dumplings with pork and ginger and the soupy stuff inside. Found a popular place just down the street after leaving exit 14 at ppls square. 4 for 6rmb. Had 6, dipped em in the vinegar after sucking the soup out etc. Not really a meal, but as snacks go - pretty bloody spot on! I can imagine that wolfing down ten of those during a munchies attack after some drinking would be pretty easy to do...! Kinda like a cornish pasty really, but wetter.. Not bad, not bad.

Am liking me this dish at the hallal places too, which is a plate of tomatoes and eggs. The cheap version where the eggs are just fried is so-so, but one place does it where they are kind of like a not completely cooked omlette and the taste, texture and consistency is delicious. Combined with the brown sauce they pour over it, a good plate of scran.

Fatty pork slices that are cripsy on the edges - pretty impossible to go wrong there too.

Beijing still better for food though imo and better value too.

Had a dish there which was a black stone pot with tofu and minced pork in a slightly spicy stew - that rocked. Have seen it here too, so will have to see if it compares...

monalisalee wrote:The adopted currency in 2002 for Southern Ireland, is the Euro, as they like to be different.
The pound can still be traded there.

really? you mean in banks, right?
in that case the pound can be traded in china as well.

That's not logical, and NO.

traded where then?

The GBP has been the official currency in England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland forever.
Not just in banking, but as the people.s currency.

Yes, but not in S.Ireland, pounds no good to you in shops and restaurants there.
Anyways, time to get back on topic.

In Shanghai it's worth checking out Sichuan, Xinjiang and Cantonese food. And the occasional Shanghai or Korean restaurant.

A nice guide here:
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ezorderc ... 89215?mt=8

Give you a more complete idea of what's cool and fashion to order in China ...