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Postby LDJS » Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:50 pm

So I'm not there yet but will be arrving on Oct 8th.

I'll have a few days to fill before I start working to get to know the city, the subway system and THE FOOD!

I love food! Reccomend me your top ten must eats for me to try out. Shanghainese food, not the best mexican or sushi bar etc... Keep it affordable but by no means must it be bland - my favorite food here in Korea is pig's face soup with rice with lots of added garlic. I like spicy too, so not a problem there... Am a huge fan of noodles too...

You could maybe reccomend where to get the reccomended dish, how much it might cost and whether to have it for breakfast, lunch or dinner!

Mmmmmmmmm, can't wait!

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Re: Reccomend a newb top 10 must eats in Shanghai

Postby LDJS » Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:51 pm

Oh and a low budget but reasonable local lager to buy from a convenience store for a quiet beer after work... naw, my above post ain't just a smoke screen for that... ha ha.. ;)
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Re: Reccomend a newb top 10 must eats in Shanghai

Postby Verbal Kint » Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:48 am

Xiaolongbao (steamed dumplings) from Jiajiatangbao on Huanghe lu
Shengjianbao (fried dumplings) from Xiaoyang on Huanghe lu and seceral other locations
Lamian (hand-pulled noodles) from any small Henan or Lanzhou noodle shop
Jianbing (breakfast pancake) from a cart
Mala Xiaolongxia (spicy river crayfish) when they re in season
Gongbaojiding (diced chicken with peanuts and chili peppers), some places make a toned down version, avoid
Yuxiang rousi (shredded pork in fish sauce, no fish actually in it)
Hongshaorou (braised pork) a fatty delight, at shanghainese restaurants
Xinjiang cuisine (mainly lamb), at Uyghur minority restaurants
Cantonese dimsum, I love chashaobao (Bbq pork buns) and boluoyou (pineapple buns with butter inside)
Chao mian (stirfried noodles) best freshly made from roadside carts
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Re: Reccomend a newb top 10 must eats in Shanghai

Postby sambista » Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:57 am

cumin ribs at di shui dong. two locations. details at smartshanghai.com.
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Re: Reccomend a newb top 10 must eats in Shanghai

Postby jzzzzzzz » Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:21 am

LDJS wrote:Shanghainese food


Shanghainese food is known for being bland, oily and sweet. Prepare to be disappointed. Luckily Shanghai has many many restaurants serving food from other Chinese regions.
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Re: Reccomend a newb top 10 must eats in Shanghai

Postby jzzzzzzz » Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:22 am

LDJS wrote:Oh and a low budget but reasonable local lager to buy from a convenience store for a quiet beer after work... naw, my above post ain't just a smoke screen for that... ha ha.. ;)


Most of the convenience store beer is low ABV and cheap. Coming from Korea with the famed (S)Hite beer you will feel at home. If I'm buying from my local Lawson I normally go for Asahi as it has at least some alcohol in it!
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Re: Reccomend a newb top 10 must eats in Shanghai

Postby sambista » Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:31 am

jzzzzzzz wrote:
LDJS wrote:Shanghainese food


Shanghainese food is known for being bland, oily and sweet. Prepare to be disappointed. Luckily Shanghai has many many restaurants serving food from other Chinese regions.


yeah. especially watch out for all those bakeries. even if bread is topped with bacon and peppers, it'll likely be sweet. big giveaway is anything with a sheen or something drizzled on top, like icing. bread talk is one of the better places (besides straight-up western bakeries), but still a lot of sweet selections.
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Re: Reccomend a newb top 10 must eats in Shanghai

Postby jzzzzzzz » Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:54 am

To be fair he's probably used to the 'orrible sweet bread as they have the same crap in Korea.
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Re: Reccomend a newb top 10 must eats in Shanghai

Postby krm9999 » Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:16 am

mc donalds
kfc
pizza hut
burger king
a chunky beef steak pie with puff pastry
roast beef and yorkshire pudding
roast stuffed chicken and chips
sausages egg and chips
25 mm thick BBQ t bone steak and a very cold beer

maybe some of these are a little harder to find than others in Shanghai :(
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Re: Reccomend a newb top 10 must eats in Shanghai

Postby TIC » Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:23 am

Nice sweet bread with whipped cream inside and a sausage on top... hmmmmm Shanghainese bread...

One more for the list: 青蛙/牛蛙干锅 QIngwa or Niuwa Ganguo. Delicious spicy dry hot pot made of bull frog, rice cake, lotus root, potato, and a load of other vegetables. Delicious!!
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Re: Reccomend a newb top 10 must eats in Shanghai

Postby Miss Fugliness » Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:52 am

it's weird seeing a lot of chinese loves to eat kungpao chicken.. mini diced chicken meat sauteed in lots of peanuts...sometimes they save money by serving you a plate full of sautee peanuts, you can't find the chicken meat anymore...


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Re: Reccomend a newb top 10 must eats in Shanghai

Postby Verbal Kint » Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:06 am

True, they overdo it with peanuts sometimes. But the worse thing is when (in Shanghai) they make their own version with sweet green and red pepper, onions, etc. Sucks.

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Re: Reccomend a newb top 10 must eats in Shanghai

Postby LDJS » Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:25 am

TIC wrote:Nice sweet bread with whipped cream inside and a sausage on top... hmmmmm Shanghainese bread...

One more for the list: 青蛙/牛蛙干锅 QIngwa or Niuwa Ganguo. Delicious spicy dry hot pot made of bull frog, rice cake, lotus root, potato, and a load of other vegetables. Delicious!!


I'm well up for that! Had a large frog chopped up and fried with rice and veggies in phuket's chinatown and loved it.
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Re: Reccomend a newb top 10 must eats in Shanghai

Postby LDJS » Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:29 am

TIC - sadly your attachment won't load :( just get the swirly 'I'm trying to load it wait a minute' circle for like 5 minutes...
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Re: Reccomend a newb top 10 must eats in Shanghai

Postby tylerdurden » Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:58 am

Some good lists of specific dishes on this thread.

However, for actual venues, and assuming you want something that is just a tad less "local" (ie, if you wish to pass on recycled cooking oil, loogies on the floor, menu strictly in hanzi script with no pix and no translation, and table service courtesy of the local village idiot), then perhaps the following establishments may fit your bill:

GuYi (Fumin Lu) - Hunan food...no bookings
JiShi/Jessie (Tianping Lu) - Shanghai food
Hengshan Xiao Guan (Yan'an Xi Lu) - Guangdong food
Sapar (Wuyuan Zhi Lu) - Xinjiang food
XiangXuan (Panyu Lu) - Hunan food
Lost Heaven (two locations) - Yunnan food...a little more expensive and expat-oriented
1221 (Yan'an Xi Lu) - Shanghai food...also more expat-oriented; great wine list
Tai Sheng Yuan (Huanghe Lu) - mixed cuisine, predominantly Shanghai. Window tables on ground floor are best.

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Hot Pot restaurants - unless you like all your food to have one of precisely two flavours (choice of chilli or soap);
Any restaurant with gilt furniture - strictly for local man-bag-toting businessmen to impress each other;
Aforementioned cheap local places (without a personal recommendation) - unless you enjoy crapping your innards out for the whole of next week.
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Re: Reccomend a newb top 10 must eats in Shanghai

Postby Michael » Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:27 am

Actually, I kind of like Dolar Hotpot - several locations ( where I can make my own dipping sauce and add in other flavor to the pot from the dipping sauce bar). And its cheap. However, when it's cold, we make the best hotpot at home.

Second Hengshan Cafe on YanAn Lu for weekend dim sum

Also second 1221 for decent quality and service ( and yes, laowai's go there alot ) but its a happy cross over between Shanghainese and western
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Re: Reccomend a newb top 10 must eats in Shanghai

Postby Verbal Kint » Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:34 am

tylerdurden wrote:Hot Pot restaurants - unless you like all your food to have one of precisely two flavours (choice of chilli or soap);



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Re: Reccomend a newb top 10 must eats in Shanghai

Postby Celso » Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:36 pm

Used to quite like Chrystal Jade in Xintiandi, especially the diced beef but have been in at least a year to be honest

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Re: Reccomend a newb top 10 must eats in Shanghai

Postby snoochtothedooch » Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:31 pm

OP, get zongzi when it is in season. It is made with sticky rice, chestnuts and sometimes some beef. They roll it in a leaf and steam it. You peel the leaf off when you eat it. It's decent, cheap and fairly healthy and delicious!

I don't get why people like baozi so much. It just tastes so oily/watery and is messy to eat. Disgusting.
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Re: Reccomend a newb top 10 must eats in Shanghai

Postby tylerdurden » Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:33 pm

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Ordered this dish today on the basis of the above pic.

It was really good. The version I got today didn't have the lotus root though - that was a slight bummer.
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Re: Reccomend a newb top 10 must eats in Shanghai

Postby snoochtothedooch » Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:35 pm

Another thing to try is the guy with the stall in the street and a big pile of dough. He/she bakes it in the oil drum and adds salt. Tastes a lot like those big German pretzels!
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Re: Reccomend a newb top 10 must eats in Shanghai

Postby tylerdurden » Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:40 pm

What about the guy on the street with this weird steam-punk boiler thingy with a big wheel with ogee spokes?

He fires that sucker up and then it goes.....Ka-BOOM!

A few people fall off their bikes, and roasted chestnuts come out. Or something.
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Re: Reccomend a newb top 10 must eats in Shanghai

Postby snoochtothedooch » Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:50 pm

^No, it's puffed rice. Also delicious!
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Re: Reccomend a newb top 10 must eats in Shanghai

Postby yunnanexpat » Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:15 am

tylerdurden wrote:What about the guy on the street with this weird steam-punk boiler thingy with a big wheel with ogee spokes?

He fires that sucker up and then it goes.....Ka-BOOM!

A few people fall off their bikes, and roasted chestnuts come out. Or something.


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Re: Reccomend a newb top 10 must eats in Shanghai

Postby LDJS » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:45 am

Do people really have problems such as the runs or sickness when eating local or is it just for the first few weeks? For example almost eveyone I know including myself got sick in their first time in Thailand but were fine the next time...
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Re: Reccomend a newb top 10 must eats in Shanghai

Postby TIC » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:52 am

LDJS wrote:Do people really have problems such as the runs or sickness when eating local or is it just for the first few weeks? For example almost eveyone I know including myself got sick in their first time in Thailand but were fine the next time...


Dont woryr, its only in the first few weeks. You'll lose a lot of weight but it comes back afterwards hehe.

Nowadays I still can't eat spicy. When I do I have the runs 20 minutes later until the next day. But thats just becaufe of the spicyness. After a while you wont get sick of it or anything.

Tylerdurden, too bad you didnt get the lotus root, its definitely part of the greatnes...
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Re: Reccomend a newb top 10 must eats in Shanghai

Postby LDJS » Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:02 am

Ha well I did get the runs after eating street noodles. Man were they tast, but I knew after the first mouthful they wouldn't be staying inside me long!

I had the famous xing bao dumplings with the soup inside. Hard to place the flavour, kind of funky but very delicious.

Had a venison stew which was ok in the French Consession. Best food was at hogher end Local restaurants, massive soups that could feed 6 people for like 30rmb. Had one with fish and ginger and a delicious broth and another yellow one with beef and glass noodles which was good.

Oh man, the lamb skewers! Lush! 12 for 20rmb and just so moreish, couldn't get enough of those. Also plates of beef or pork with snap peas seemed really good.

A great place for food. I mean one of those big soups could feed you for like 3 or 4 days if you take out, which we did after we could eat no more.

Xmas dinner at Big Bamboo was really good and good value. Pricy drinks compared to Korea but a nice bar and great staff and a decent happy hour!

Anyway, had a great week and am coming to teach English there next month. Great food and a cool as heck city imo.
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Re: Reccomend a newb top 10 must eats in Shanghai

Postby GirlatWork » Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:25 am

Sounds like you have tried more Chinese food in a week than I have in 5 years. Great attitude! You'll love it here. In fact you will be happy anywhere. We need more positive people like you.
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Re: Reccomend a newb top 10 must eats in Shanghai

Postby LDJS » Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:33 pm

GirlatWork wrote:Sounds like you have tried more Chinese food in a week than I have in 5 years. Great attitude! You'll love it here. In fact you will be happy anywhere. We need more positive people like you.


Hey thanks. Yeah I loved the food. I live in Korea at the moment and whilst I enjoy the local cuisine, it is very samey and basic and nowhere near as subtle and elaborate as the food I had in Shanghai. Koreans are 'cooks' the Shanghai peope are closer to artists when it comes to food, in the way Italians or French are.

In fact I found some of it so elaborate in terms of blending of flavours and spices etc that it was kind of hard to get a handle on it and unlike with comfort food, where you just have a animal like satisfaction in your gut, that was more ellusive with some of the local dishes I had, especially the soups as they were so complex in flavour. I found myself walking away thinking 'I still don't get that soup but it was so good.'

Seriosuly, you guys should know how good you have it there food-wise. Compared to South Korea, it's a food paradise and I know some of you guys complain western groceries (cheeses, salamis, chocolates etc) are twice the price of 'back home' but compared to Korea where it's like 5 times the price ''back home' (even month after the US and EU - Korea fta's have been ratified...) I was in heaven. And the variety! The variety! Went to that foriegn market in People's square, holy cow, deli meats and cheeses, amazing beers, luxury chocolates, such variety. Man the local supermarkets there even blow away the selection at the big department stores in Seoul and are again, at least half the prices.... 50rmb for a huge piece of Italian quiche, 50rmb for a quarter of rabbit roasted in fennel and rosemary... (yeah I know you could eat local food for like 4 days on that, but hey I was on vacation.)

I am happy here in korea when I can find a 300g block of edam or a 150 slab of Gorganzola for the equivalent of 5 - 6 gbp....! Had a 125g camambert last night which cost be about 4 pounds in Korean won... Back home at Liddels that would be a quid...

Anyhow, good stuff.

And those lamb kebabs I swear are better than the ones I pay 5x as much for at the Uzbecki restaurant here in Busan.

Verbal - you were right the hand pulled and chow mein dishes were ace. But that is also what gave me the runs.... ha ha. Never tasted a sauce quite that good even in Bangkok Chinatown and the Chinese food there is fabulous. And these noodles were like 11rmb. Like the best women when you're young and can handle it - gorgeous but deadly.
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