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should i leave my savings in HKD or RMB?

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should i leave my savings in HKD or RMB?

Postby jeffreykhl » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:14 pm

admittedly, i am a dummy when it comes to things like that.

first question,

is the HKD still pegged to the USD?

i heard the USD dropped a lot, so do i expect the rise before i convert my savings to RMB?( i can do it online from here)

the other thing, to withdraw via atm, the process fee might not be worth it, but for 150K HKD, it is worth the trip to hong kong to carry it physically back?

thanks for any advise. ok, i am stupid, dont flame me!
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Re: should i leave my savings in HKD or RMB?

Postby tejizo » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:45 pm

Yes, HKD is still pegged to USD. Four years ago it was 7.7 HKD for 1 USD, and it still is four years later, while RMB went from 7.4 to like 6.3 now. RMB was also pegged at one time. I remember it stays at around 6.8 for about a couple of years or so.
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Re: should i leave my savings in HKD or RMB?

Postby chingiskhan » Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:01 pm

RMB is a better option as the RMB is continually rising against the USD / HKD. It's unlikely to go in the other direction. When I came to China, the rate was 0.96 HKD = 1 RMB. At the moment it's about 1.23 HKD to 1 RMB.
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Re: should i leave my savings in HKD or RMB?

Postby Chavster » Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:51 pm

I'm no finance whiz either but common sense appears to say that the RMB is a better long term bet than HKD. The orthodoxy says that the RMB is under-valued against the USD and has room to rise. I also think it's important to remember that while there are certain rules surrounding currency trading the PRC govt controls monetary policy and by de-facto the HKD. It seems unlikely that the govt here would allow the HKD to strengthen as they've made it pretty clear that they want Hong Kong to be sidelined and Shanghai to replace it as the premier Asian banking centre.
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Re: should i leave my savings in HKD or RMB?

Postby jeffreykhl » Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:05 pm

thanks guys!
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Re: should i leave my savings in HKD or RMB?

Postby KopyKatKiller » Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:33 pm

Forget paper, buy gold.
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Re: should i leave my savings in HKD or RMB?

Postby Moroes » Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:33 am

Think RMB is going to stay at 6.2 to 6.3 rate against the USD for the next 6 months. Quite flat movement for now so it woulnd't matter much in the mean time.

Gold is a speculating currency this day and age. But hasn't been promising in the past months. Hopefully it will go up slowly again. The question is whether gold actally has a bubble to burst or is the supply just that short to make it continiously go up every year?
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Re: should i leave my savings in HKD or RMB?

Postby KopyKatKiller » Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:53 am

^^Gold will continue to climb as paper fails. Buy gold bars and store them under your mattress. The problem I can see in having large stock piles of RMB is a sudden crash in Chinese real estate and export markets or war in the S. China Sea. Also, it's not so easy to remove large piles of RB from China or to convert it here. If you buy paper, buy Canadian Dollars. I better bet than the HK version.
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Re: should i leave my savings in HKD or RMB?

Postby jLee89 » Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:35 am

investing>saving. :)
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Re: should i leave my savings in HKD or RMB?

Postby jeffreykhl » Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:49 am

jlee,

ya right...so do i just google online for an investor and hand him or her all my cash?
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Re: should i leave my savings in HKD or RMB?

Postby jeffreykhl » Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:50 am

buying gold is good...then i will have to post my next question...where can i buy a good safe? hahaha
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Re: should i leave my savings in HKD or RMB?

Postby jLee89 » Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:55 am

a bank.
safety deposit. wealth management.

and well, i didnt really dwell into my advice but it really depends how much money you're talking about. if its a larger amount i dont see why anyone would save over a low risk fund. you just lose money putting it in savings if you adjust for inflation. interest rates are jokes.
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Re: should i leave my savings in HKD or RMB?

Postby chingiskhan » Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:55 am

jeffreykhl wrote:buying gold is good...then i will have to post my next question...where can i buy a good safe? hahaha


I just buy gold through my bank (HSBC). It's just paper gold so I don't actually have it with me.
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Re: should i leave my savings in HKD or RMB?

Postby David_Bdx » Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:25 am

paper gold is absolutely useless....

however stashing at least 30% of your savings in RMB is a good idea.

investment options are limited for expats anyway, so it would be stupid to keep too much RMB in deposit accounts. transfer the rest in HKD and buy securities with a hsbc bank account.
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Re: should i leave my savings in HKD or RMB?

Postby Juan_Tamad » Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:45 am

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Re: should i leave my savings in HKD or RMB?

Postby btravers33 » Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:32 am

I guess I am confused on how the HSBC Gold Scheme is useless, but you recommend to buy Securities? I get the whole Physical Gold vs Paper Gold argument, bu then Securities were recommended. Has Warren Buffet joined SHExpat?
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Re: should i leave my savings in HKD or RMB?

Postby maimai83 » Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:41 am

I just drop most of my stash in the short term bonds. You can usually find one that pays 6% or so.
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