Scattered thunderstroms

Thu, Feb 16

1°C - 7°C

33.8°F - 44.6°F

Sunny

Fri, Feb 17

0°C - 5°C

32°F - 41°F























So... will war happen?

Questions and Answers about living in Shanghai here.

Re: So... will war happen?

Postby GeneralLi » Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:39 am

yeap that they do control
GeneralLi
Talker
Talker
 
Posts: 112
Joined: Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:30 pm

Re: So... will war happen?

Postby god » Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:49 am

leidelaohu wrote:
god wrote:so what's a good way to defeat the u.s. invaders?

You could do what you normally do - run around in circles, wailing and gnashing your teeth and gibbering in fear. Then after a couple hundred years the invaders would be so worn out from dealing with the Chinese women they've been screwing that the whole cycle repeats.

btw, vcxz, I know this is kind of a difficult concept for you but this dog and pony show is aimed at the North Korean Axis of Evil, not China. NK dropped an SK ship, now we've gotta go rattle some sabers. It's in the script. Has nothing to do with China, China doesn't own the ocean.

Hi Adrienne ! Thanks for the hello, just passing thru tho. Got a fascist to deal with, thought I'd warm up a bit first :P
][/quote]

chinese's too kind to these bastards. no wonder that old guy stabbed these bastards b4 he'd suicide.

u.s. just pulled another 911 on korea, another excuse to start war.
god
Barker
Barker
 
Posts: 140
Joined: Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:00 am

Re: So... will war happen?

Postby CoffeeHawk_0 » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:08 am

The OP is nuts, the military exercise is a show for North Korea, China is just pissed that they used part of the Yellow Sea
User avatar
CoffeeHawk_0
Board Buddha
Board Buddha
 
Posts: 15832
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:32 am
Location: Chavington Palace

Re: So... will war happen?

Postby god » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:12 am

^oh yeah... it's for N korea... but lets go right into china's front door now.
god
Barker
Barker
 
Posts: 140
Joined: Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:00 am

Re: So... will war happen?

Postby CoffeeHawk_0 » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:17 am

I'll bet you like China's back door
User avatar
CoffeeHawk_0
Board Buddha
Board Buddha
 
Posts: 15832
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:32 am
Location: Chavington Palace

Re: So... will war happen?

Postby god » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:22 am

^right, in afghanistan... bastards good for nothing, but war and destruction.
god
Barker
Barker
 
Posts: 140
Joined: Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:00 am

Re: So... will war happen?

Postby anter » Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:00 am

If those figures above, (15 of 50 in Senate and 32 of 454 in Congress, are Jewish) are correct (?) that is astonishing representation of a minority group, relative to the Jewish population of the 300,million US pop.
The entire world population of Jewish people is very small. 5-6 Million in Israel and the same in the USA. 40% of Jewish pop in the world is in the US and the other 40% is in Israel with the remaining spead accross the rest of the countries.
Ref: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org
A poulation of 11-12 million globally has this much influence in business, politics, writing/film/TV.
The economic, political and propaganda mojo they hold, I find :shock:

Sh1t happens when a minority group is seen to, has gained, economic success. For instance:
Jewish in pre 1935 Germany
Asian Indians in Fiji
Chinese in Indonesia

When I wrote earlier that the Chinese, where I have been based this past 5 yrs, have economic power and buy political power as needed, I meant in the context of going about their business ventures. They pay under the table to get around govt /bureaucratic rules and regulations, but they are not the only ones.

Back to god's OP, I agree with what someone else in the thread mentioned, my observations are that the "sabre -rattling" is regional, long standing and directed to countries like N Korea and Taiwan.
Last edited by anter on Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:23 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
anter
Post Roaster
Post Roaster
 
Posts: 4371
Joined: Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:46 am
Location: Shanghai

Re: So... will war happen?

Postby fWerrF » Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:50 pm

GeneralLi wrote:Jewish what has power and influence in US politics. Do you mean Jewish people, or perhaps Jewish Rye Bread.

You are an ignorant racist.


Are you a f0cking idiot??
What exactly did I say that's racism??
User avatar
fWerrF
Wonder Wit
Wonder Wit
 
Posts: 3583
Joined: Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:22 pm

Re: So... will war happen?

Postby fWerrF » Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:54 pm

anter wrote:If those figures above, (15 of 50 in Senate and 32 of 454 in Congress, are Jewish) are correct (?) that is astonishing representation of a minority group, relative to the Jewish population of the 300,million US pop.


Precisely.

I originally mentioned Jewish because someone said Chinese control the economic power so they can easily buy into politics.
Therefore I was comparing Chinese to Jewish.
The size of China/Chinese population and the influence they have in politics is not proportional compared to that of Jewish.
Some people love to take things out of context on this forum. :roll:
User avatar
fWerrF
Wonder Wit
Wonder Wit
 
Posts: 3583
Joined: Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:22 pm

Re: So... will war happen?

Postby Jas01 » Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:18 pm

between which countries? There are some wars almost everday.Keeping peaceful is hard to this world.
A single conversation with a wise man is better than ten years of study. ~Chinese Proverb

I have been learning Mandarin in Shanghai for a year and have yet to find my wise man in my mandarin lessons.
http://www.chinese-blossom.com
Jas01
Squeeker
Squeeker
 
Posts: 19
Joined: Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:06 pm

Re: So... will war happen?

Postby tihZ_hO » Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:36 pm

fWerrF wrote:
anter wrote:If those figures above, (15 of 50 in Senate and 32 of 454 in Congress, are Jewish) are correct (?) that is astonishing representation of a minority group, relative to the Jewish population of the 300,million US pop.


Precisely.

I originally mentioned Jewish because someone said Chinese control the economic power so they can easily buy into politics.
Therefore I was comparing Chinese to Jewish.
The size of China/Chinese population and the influence they have in politics is not proportional compared to that of Jewish.
Some people love to take things out of context on this forum. :roll:


Easily explained

The U.S. Congress has long been dominated by lawyer-politicians. "From 1780 to 1930, two thirds of the senators and about half of the House of Representatives were lawyers; the percentage seems to have stayed fairly stable" (Friedman 1985: 647). . . . at the beginning of the 101st Congress in 1989, 184 members (42%) of the U.S. House of Representatives were lawyers (47% of the Democrats and 35 % of the Republicans). Sixty-three senators were lawyers, roughly equally distributed between the two parties (Ornstein, Mann, and Malbin 1990: 20-21, 26-27). At the beginning of the 102nd Congress in January, 1991, 244 of the 535 members of both houses (46%) claimed attorney as their profession.

- Congressional Quarterly Weekly Report 1/12/91: 118


Many lawyers are Jewish. so no surprise. :)
Image





You know who you are
User avatar
tihZ_hO

happy

Board Buddha
Board Buddha
 
Posts: 14472
Mood: Cool
Joined: Tue Feb 17, 2004 11:43 am

Re: So... will war happen?

Postby Tiny_year » Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:12 pm

So... will war happen?

My answer: The war will happen if Chinese government sells US loan or stop buying them. The military force showoff recently is just to terrify Chinese government to buy more US loans.

what a shXt Chinese government is eating
Tiny_year
Raver
Raver
 
Posts: 394
Joined: Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:40 pm

Re: So... will war happen?

Postby CoffeeHawk_0 » Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:10 pm

capitalism is not about having money, it's about keeping the money flowing.
China buys one billion in US bonds, the US buys one billion of Chinese made goods. The rich take a little of the top for themselves, the working people get a few crumbs. The money just keeps going around in a circle.
If a country leader stops that flow suddenly, takes a big slice of the cake for himself, then bad things happen.
User avatar
CoffeeHawk_0
Board Buddha
Board Buddha
 
Posts: 15832
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:32 am
Location: Chavington Palace

Re: So... will war happen?

Postby Andreas » Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:58 pm

GeneralLi wrote:yeap that they do control


There's 1.3 billion people in the entertainment industry here, and most of them don't even know it :lol: :wink:
‘How inappropriate to call this planet Earth when it is quite clearly Ocean.’
- Sir Arthur C. Clarke
User avatar
Andreas

Shanghai Royalty
Shanghai Royalty
 
Posts: 8479
Mood: Happy
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2004 1:46 pm
Location: The Land that Time forgot.

Re: So... will war happen?

Postby idiot » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:09 pm

CoffeeHawk_0 wrote:capitalism is not about having money, it's about keeping the money flowing.
China buys one billion in US bonds, the US buys one billion of Chinese made goods. The rich take a little of the top for themselves, the working people get a few crumbs. The money just keeps going around in a circle.
If a country leader stops that flow suddenly, takes a big slice of the cake for himself, then bad things happen.


But here some problems ...

US deficit is: 1 Trillion ................... China own 1 Trillion of US Paper + 2 Trillions in CASH.

So, score is: USA: -2 Trillions ............ China +2 Trillions. Actually, China CAN BUY America.

So, why China need to continue throwing money into this bottomless pit ???
User avatar
idiot
Reacher
Reacher
 
Posts: 230
Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:23 pm

Re: So... will war happen?

Postby anter » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:17 pm

tihZ_hO wrote:
fWerrF wrote:
anter wrote:If those figures above, (15 of 50 in Senate and 32 of 454 in Congress, are Jewish) are correct (?) that is astonishing representation of a minority group, relative to the Jewish population of the 300,million US pop.


Precisely.

I originally mentioned Jewish because someone said Chinese control the economic power so they can easily buy into politics.
Therefore I was comparing Chinese to Jewish.
The size of China/Chinese population and the influence they have in politics is not proportional compared to that of Jewish.
Some people love to take things out of context on this forum. :roll:


Easily explained



The U.S. Congress has long been dominated by lawyer-politicians. "From 1780 to 1930, two thirds of the senators and about half of the House of Representatives were lawyers; the percentage seems to have stayed fairly stable" (Friedman 1985: 647). . . . at the beginning of the 101st Congress in 1989, 184 members (42%) of the U.S. House of Representatives were lawyers (47% of the Democrats and 35 % of the Republicans). Sixty-three senators were lawyers, roughly equally distributed between the two parties (Ornstein, Mann, and Malbin 1990: 20-21, 26-27). At the beginning of the 102nd Congress in January, 1991, 244 of the 535 members of both houses (46%) claimed attorney as their profession.

- Congressional Quarterly Weekly Report 1/12/91: 118


Many lawyers are Jewish. so no surprise. :)


Attorneys would be attracted to politics. Another example of where the "separation of power" gets a bit grey. But it's a chance to make, rewrite, change influence legistation. The entire democratic process, debate and even campaigning favours those with verbal communication skills and in my work I see that high level verbal communication skill does not = higher order (creative) problem solving.

Because the above post inflamed my curiosity I looked up how many of the 44 US Presidents were lawyers =27.

Following on from what you posted above tihZ_hO I was curios to see who was at the signing of the US Constitution. Take a look at this. http://www.usconstitution.net/declarsigndata.html
Scroll down the list and it looks like nearly half were lawyers.

When I visited the National Constitution Center in Philly, in 2003, I walked about the bronze sculptures in the Signers Hall exhibit and remember thinking, seems like a lot of lawyers and merchant and also quite young age although then maybe 37 was considered mature (?) at that time.

The only one who was different, by age and profession, Ben Franklin (81 at the time of the signing)-Scientist.
His lifesize bronze sculpture is seated, it is the only one with a polished hand from the numbers of visitors maybe rubbing it out of respect, or for good luck.

Now I'm really beginning to feel a need for proportionate representation of a greater variety of professions.... um, background checks and balances, let alone woman and ethnic minorities. :o
Last edited by anter on Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
anter
Post Roaster
Post Roaster
 
Posts: 4371
Joined: Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:46 am
Location: Shanghai

Re: So... will war happen?

Postby idiot » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:22 pm

So, seriously question, WHAT IS NEXT WITH AMERICA ?

1)No countries want to invest to America...

2)No companies wish to hire Americans ..

3)America is not anymore the center of Inventions of the World..

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Any ideas, HOW TO SAVE AMERICA ???
User avatar
idiot
Reacher
Reacher
 
Posts: 230
Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:23 pm

Re: So... will war happen?

Postby CoffeeHawk_0 » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:41 pm

idiot wrote:
CoffeeHawk_0 wrote:capitalism is not about having money, it's about keeping the money flowing.
China buys one billion in US bonds, the US buys one billion of Chinese made goods. The rich take a little of the top for themselves, the working people get a few crumbs. The money just keeps going around in a circle.
If a country leader stops that flow suddenly, takes a big slice of the cake for himself, then bad things happen.


But here some problems ...

US deficit is: 1 Trillion ................... China own 1 Trillion of US Paper + 2 Trillions in CASH.

So, score is: USA: -2 Trillions ............ China +2 Trillions. Actually, China CAN BUY America.

So, why China need to continue throwing money into this bottomless pit ???

-ask an economist or finance person to explain it,

-buy? GDP of the USA is over 15 trillion USD, GDP of China is 4 trillion USD and growing quickly of course. A business sale is usually 1.5 to 3 times revenues, so one would need 30 to 45 trillion USD to buy the US.......wait 40 years, then maybe.
User avatar
CoffeeHawk_0
Board Buddha
Board Buddha
 
Posts: 15832
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:32 am
Location: Chavington Palace

Re: So... will war happen?

Postby anter » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:49 pm

Idiot,
US deficit is: 1 Trillion ................... China own 1 Trillion of US Paper + 2 Trillions in CASH.

So, score is: USA: -2 Trillions ............ China +2 Trillions. Actually, China CAN BUY America.

So, why China need to continue throwing money into this bottomless pit ???


There are many things about America worth saving!
I think it has lost it's way but do not underestimate it's capacity to re-invent itself. It was the life raft of choice for so many displaced yet brilliant people over the past centuries. The diversity of the gene pool and the various cultures that have coalesced there was generationally the means by which it became great.
Somehow I do not feel China has the answer but to throw money helps the yin/yang of trade.
User avatar
anter
Post Roaster
Post Roaster
 
Posts: 4371
Joined: Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:46 am
Location: Shanghai

Re: So... will war happen?

Postby idiot » Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:58 pm

CoffeeHawk_0 wrote:-ask an economist or finance person to explain it,

-buy? GDP of the USA is over 15 trillion USD, GDP of China is 4 trillion USD and growing quickly of course. A business sale is usually 1.5 to 3 times revenues, so one would need 30 to 45 trillion USD to buy the US.......wait 40 years, then maybe.


Yes, you right. But seems most AWFUL PART is what Americans can not afford anymore "American Dream": Income 50k/year, Big Home, 2 Cars, 2 Kids .. etc.. America lost competitive. INteresting, how do their Govt will going to EXPLAIN WHY that happed ? And what's the plan ? Nuke the World ? Or what ???
User avatar
idiot
Reacher
Reacher
 
Posts: 230
Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:23 pm

Re: So... will war happen?

Postby Andreas » Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:03 pm

Just nuke the right places will do. Should have happened decades ago, but nobody listened to Mac Arthur unfortunately.
‘How inappropriate to call this planet Earth when it is quite clearly Ocean.’
- Sir Arthur C. Clarke
User avatar
Andreas

Shanghai Royalty
Shanghai Royalty
 
Posts: 8479
Mood: Happy
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2004 1:46 pm
Location: The Land that Time forgot.

Re: So... will war happen?

Postby idiot » Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:08 pm

anter wrote:There are many things about America worth saving!
I think it has lost it's way but do not underestimate it's capacity to re-invent itself. It was the life raft of choice for so many displaced yet brilliant people over the past centuries. The diversity of the gene pool and the various cultures that have coalesced there was generationally the means by which it became great.
Somehow I do not feel China has the answer but to throw money helps the yin/yang of trade.


Yes, it WAS so. And now it is POLICE STATE for own citizens and they try to bring that to the World.

THANK YOU ! :|
Last edited by idiot on Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:34 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
idiot
Reacher
Reacher
 
Posts: 230
Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:23 pm

Re: So... will war happen?

Postby idiot » Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:18 pm

Andreas wrote:Just nuke the right places will do. Should have happened decades ago, but nobody listened to Mac Arthur unfortunately.


Andreas, America even have not a balls "to solve" N.Korea with their 6 nukes, so what says about other countries. No, there will not wars, but slow degradation like USSR. Welcome to retarded club !
Last edited by idiot on Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
idiot
Reacher
Reacher
 
Posts: 230
Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:23 pm

Re: So... will war happen?

Postby prego2000 » Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:22 pm

Andreas wrote:Just nuke the right places will do. Should have happened decades ago, but nobody listened to Mac Arthur unfortunately.


:lol: :lol:
User avatar
prego2000
Rocker
Rocker
 
Posts: 774
Joined: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:37 pm

Re: So... will war happen?

Postby anter » Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:37 am

MacArtheeeer was a crazy. :evil:
The true greatness of America was/is, in the creative wealth of it's best and brightest but for too long far too much attention, resources and action has been directed into foreign interference and failed foreign policy.
User avatar
anter
Post Roaster
Post Roaster
 
Posts: 4371
Joined: Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:46 am
Location: Shanghai

Re: So... will war happen?

Postby GeneralLi » Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:47 am

fWerrF wrote:
GeneralLi wrote:Jewish what has power and influence in US politics. Do you mean Jewish people, or perhaps Jewish Rye Bread.

You are an ignorant racist.


Are you a f0cking idiot??
What exactly did I say that's racism??


You just don't get it.
GeneralLi
Talker
Talker
 
Posts: 112
Joined: Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:30 pm

Re: So... will war happen?

Postby Gmbori » Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:31 am

America was asking for trouble this time.

They performed those lengthly maneuvers in the Yellow Sea for no good reason. The Sea of Japan was open to them, but no, they had to move to China's doorstep so one of their ships (the USS George Washington I think) could check out the main land with surveillance equipment, all while keeping tabs on North Korea.

I mean, there were various other seas they could've moved to. They could've even done the maneuvers on the outer areas of the Yellow Sea, yet the insisted on driving forward until they hit the mainland.
Gmbori
Squeeker
Squeeker
 
Posts: 15
Joined: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:53 pm

Re: So... will war happen?

Postby coxaca » Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:32 am

idiot wrote:

3)America is not anymore the center of Inventions of the World..


Ah...so you admit that it once was?
The bottom line here is we must lower our cost base to make room for a lower margin product mix world and to grow our earnings going forward.
User avatar
coxaca

King of Pop

FooSlinger
FooSlinger
 
Posts: 3994
Mood: Cool
Joined: Mon May 10, 2010 10:26 am

Re: So... will war happen?

Postby idiot » Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:38 am

coxaca wrote:
idiot wrote:

3)America is not anymore the center of Inventions of the World..


Ah...so you admit that it once was?


YES. But now .. Ipad, Iphone.. on Samsung's chips, assembled in China .. simply DOES NOT COUNT. :(


"Report: Designing A4 Processor Could Have Cost Apple $1 Billion" :roll:

"The Apple A4 chip used in both the iPad and iPhone 4 is manufactured by Samsung, which is Samsung S5PC110A01 , same as in phone ... Samsung Wave S8500 , which on sale from February 2010" :shock:

Image
User avatar
idiot
Reacher
Reacher
 
Posts: 230
Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:23 pm

Re: So... will war happen?

Postby SnappySammy » Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:11 am

Many lawyers are Jewish. so no surprise. :)[/quote]

.

Because the above post inflamed my curiosity I looked up how many of the 44 US Presidents were lawyers =27.


Scroll down the list and it looks like nearly half were lawyers.( How Many were Jewish lawyers[/quote]

SO How many of the 27 presidents who were lawyers were also Jewish......
Never Let Anyone Outside The Family Know What You're Thinking.....
User avatar
SnappySammy
Board Buddha
Board Buddha
 
Posts: 13230
Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:12 am

PreviousNext

Return to Questions and Answers

 


  • Related topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest