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Re: So... will war happen?

Postby coxaca » Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:02 am

So, "idiot", did you get banned as Dr Watson?
The bottom line here is we must lower our cost base to make room for a lower margin product mix world and to grow our earnings going forward.
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Re: So... will war happen?

Postby idiot » Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:09 am

coxaca wrote:So, "idiot", did you get banned as Dr Watson?


...can't resist don't ask... are you pregnant by alien Image???
Don't be nervous, mommy :lol:

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Re: So... will war happen?

Postby eudaimonic » Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:50 am

rickettyrabbit wrote:Idiot, what is your theory about the effect on China's economy if the US decides to stop buying your products? Do you think China actually "feeds" the US, or does it simply provide consumer goods which US consumers could easily do without?


Your question contains a false dilemma. The Chinese government has very wisely exploited the American focus on short term profits in order to build up domestic (Chinese) economic infrastructure. The question is rather this: now that America has allowed its domestic manufacturing infrastructure to erode, what will happen when America can no longer afford to import cheap goods? Warren Buffett described the inevitable crisis elegantly with the following analogy: "Thriftville and Squanderville". http://seekingalpha.com/article/69786-t ... true-story
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Re: So... will war happen?

Postby CoffeeHawk_0 » Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:02 am

^same as what happened to England
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Re: So... will war happen?

Postby god » Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:52 am

therefore... as i said b4... they want to start war to get out of their present shithole.

korean ship blow is another 911
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Re: So... will war happen?

Postby fWerrF » Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:07 pm

rickettyrabbit wrote:... if the US decides to stop buying your products?


Americans will not be able to afford even the daily necessities.
Life won't go on :lol:
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Re: So... will war happen?

Postby idiot » Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:56 pm

leidelaohu wrote:We did fine. In fact, we did better twenty years ago than we do now, before we had the "advantage" of "cheap Chinese goods."


Maybe i'm wrong, but seems what USA finally will lowering "min wage" for $1000/m or so. Today's world is big village, and or you work for less or GO FUСKING OUT ! Why somebody make $5000 and somebody somewhere make $500 for SAME WORK ? In result, WANT YOU OR NOT, Americans will make that they actually worth and they will live lives what they can affords. Here will be new BEGIN.

If me a President - i will PROHIBIT any kinds of credits. Made money - "flash it" and pay ! No? GTFO! :lol:
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Re: So... will war happen?

Postby idiot » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:03 pm

fWerrF wrote:
rickettyrabbit wrote:... if the US decides to stop buying your products?


Americans will not be able to afford even the daily necessities. Life won't go on :lol:


No problems, trailer(and life in) - is american invention.No money- wipe their asses with hands :lol:

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Re: So... will war happen?

Postby fWerrF » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:23 pm

leidelaohu wrote:
fWerrF wrote:
rickettyrabbit wrote:... if the US decides to stop buying your products?


Americans will not be able to afford even the daily necessities.
Life won't go on :lol:

That's a common but false claim also. Maybe I'm too old but guess what ? The US existed twenty years ago. We did fine. In fact, we did better twenty years ago than we do now, before we had the "advantage" of "cheap Chinese goods."

If we could turn back the clock to 1985 we'd be in Fat City.

Of course, we'd have to eliminate Wall Street, the major cause of American financial problems for the past two centuries, but the vast majority of American lives would be greatly improved by that action. That's one reason it's hard for me to get worked up over the WTC destruction. I just wish they'd hit Goldman-Sachs et al instead :(



If I eat steak and lobster everyday now, and I go broke, I go back eating instant noodles with spams like college days, no problem, I will survive.
But Somethings can not go back.
For many of those "cheap Chinese goods" that's filling up Walmart, Target, Costco and etc, there isn't USA domestic manufactures making the same stuff, they could not compete with the low Chinese pricing so they were out of business long time ago.
Even if they do get back at manufacturing those goods, the price will be much higher, a big percentage of the USA population today are just barely getting by, they can not afford any higher living expense.

P.S. I prοtest that Goldman Sachs comment. 8) :cry: :P
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Re: So... will war happen?

Postby coxaca » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:54 pm

idiot wrote:If me a President - i will PROHIBIT any kinds of credits. Made money - "flash it" and pay ! No? GTFO! :lol:


Yes, and what a good President you would be. After prohibiting credit, telling everyone who doesn't like it to GTFO (and slaughtering anyone who disobeys), you could make yourself President-for-Life, then Dear Helmsman, then The Cook With All The Pans, and finally get yourself officially recognised as a God.

Of course, the job would come with certain perks: two virgins per day, Louis Treize on tap, a vast gold-embellished faux-rococo palace full of furniture from Da Vinci, endless reports about your latest humiliations of the Foreign Devil on the State-run news, and a little room in the basement where you keep a couple of your most loathed enemies chained up. You can go down there and hurt them for a while (or watch someone else hurt them), until you are hard enough to do your thang with the next virgin.
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Re: So... will war happen?

Postby idiot » Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:35 pm

leidelaohu wrote: American labor was...cost-effective. Chinese labor is sh1t. It's down around position 100 on the charts. If all you consider is labor it is cheaper to make things with expensive American labor. I could easily replace a 500 worker Chinese factory with twenty Mexicans. Swear to god, it's true.


I heard about that statistic , BUT probably there LOADS of job what Americans unwilling to do or do it with higher cost. If it's not so, Chinese workers would loose job in favor of American ones. BUT THINGS ARE DIFFERENT NOW, right ?

Mexicans..Africans ...how many SAME guys in America live off benefits ?

If pigs will going to fly, these guys will make some work too.
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Re: So... will war happen?

Postby idiot » Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:48 pm

coxaca wrote:After prohibiting credit, telling everyone who doesn't like it to GTFO (and slaughtering anyone who disobeys)....


Yes, i forget to mean also prohibit STOCK MARKET.

PS: Coxasa, congrats with new avatar ;-)
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Re: So... will war happen?

Postby tihZ_hO » Sat Jul 31, 2010 6:15 pm

prego2000 wrote:
Andreas wrote:Just nuke the right places will do. Should have happened decades ago, but nobody listened to Mac Arthur unfortunately.


:lol: :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Don't forget Patton as well!!



So what do we know for sure?

America is going down da tubes

China is going down da tubes (further)

Russia and whatever is nearby is already down da tubes

and everyone left will have to join them

So WTF is everyone getting so worked up about? :D

(I'm serious btw)
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Re: So... will war happen?

Postby SnappySammy » Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:44 pm

anter wrote:
"SnappySammy"]Many lawyers are Jewish. so no surprise. :)
Because the above post inflamed my curiosity I looked up how many of the 44 US Presidents were lawyers =27.
Scroll down the list and it looks like nearly half were lawyers.( How Many were Jewish lawyers
SO How many of the 27 presidents who were lawyers were also Jewish....


Seems off topic but if people read the thread they will see the subplot.

Sammy It caught my curiousity as well... (Ref: my posts above).

In wiki Q and A. No idea if it is right or someone's humour.

A majority of our presidents have been Jewish. The first Jewish president was none other than the father of our country and our first president, George Washington. All of our Jewish presidents have changed their last names to avoid anti-Semitism. For example, Abraham Lincoln was born Abraham Linkenstein[/quote



That's great information.....I knew Lincoln was shot in the Temple, but I didn't know he was Jewish. I thought George WaSHINGTON was famous for being the last White Man with the name Washington
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Re: So... will war happen?

Postby SnappySammy » Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:50 pm

Yo Ho....Let them eat Cake.....
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Re: So... will war happen?

Postby rickettyrabbit » Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:56 pm

eudaimonic wrote:
rickettyrabbit wrote:Idiot, what is your theory about the effect on China's economy if the US decides to stop buying your products? Do you think China actually "feeds" the US, or does it simply provide consumer goods which US consumers could easily do without?


Your question contains a false dilemma.


Look more closely. It is idiot who posed the false dilemma. I simply turned it into a question for him to answer. His answer is as logical as his original premise. 8)
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Re: So... will war happen?

Postby rickettyrabbit » Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:58 pm

idiot wrote:
rickettyrabbit wrote:Idiot, what is your theory about the effect on China's economy if the US decides to stop buying your products? Do you think China actually "feeds" the US, or does it simply provide consumer goods which US consumers could easily do without?


That's not the same as you see it. About 60% of all these goods manufactured under American brands and owned by American companies. So, do you think they will voluntarily refuse to shake "money tree" of American consumers? Ha-ha-ha... No.
Riches gains more, poorest sells last crap, that is normal capitalistic model of the World. And USA economic does not work anymore, wherever they ordering in China, India or Bangladesh.

END of Western World. Century of Asia. :cry:


rickettyrabbit wrote:...China actually "feeds" the US...
Yes, China support USA in fear to lost market, lost all the investments if US will going bankrupt. Understandable, all these things are not forever. Imagine, if finally China will sell more to other countries and supply own market.. here will be END of "feeding", end of "American Dream" and End of America like "world killing :oops: power, blah-blah-blah"

Remember USSR :wink: ? Clock ticking .. http://www.usdebtclock.org/# Image


And who said China's young are without hope? 8)

The smartest part of your answer was "blah-blah-blah".
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Re: So... will war happen?

Postby idiot » Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:46 pm

rickettyrabbit wrote:And who said China's young are without hope? 8)

The smartest part of your answer was "blah-blah-blah".


Can you please quote my original post about ? I said what "losers" are ever "losers" not depend where and when. Locals often can't see advantages of China because they young, unexperienced and probably too pessimistic about everything. Once again - China is not good place for seeking job, BUT it's (yet) nice place for business, period. Another question if you don't know that.

PS: 2 years gone and my prognosis about US becomes more pessimistic.
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Re: So... will war happen?

Postby tihZ_hO » Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:54 pm

idiot wrote:
rickettyrabbit wrote:And why do you think China does not do it? "One push of a button", and China ruins its biggest market, and by doing so, ruins its own economy. You think China will take that risk? Absolutely not. It would be incredibly stupid. It's a good thing for China's 1.3 billion people that you're not in charge.


Seems what US seek for conflict when all debts will be forgiven (smart idea). So China unwilling do that because at last it is peaceful (good or bad) society and they used to make money with work(hard and less paid), but no aggressive wars.

What is 1 Trillion Dollars ? Actually total value of US property market is about 10 Trillions USD, so Chinese "virtually" owning EVERY tenth AMERICAN HOME. You can imagine, what country called CHIMERICA.



Not at all China has been an arse over trade imbalances for YEARS so who's the smart one? China's like a young spoiled brat fighting with grown ups!

If China is going to be stupid and buy American debt, well let them. Priceless!!

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Re: So... will war happen?

Postby idiot » Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:17 am

tihZ_hO wrote:Not at all China has been an arse over trade imbalances for YEARS so who's the smart one? China's like a young spoiled brat fighting with grown ups!

If China is going to be stupid and buy American debt, well let them. Priceless!!

:lol: :lol:


Everybody who has brain understand what's trade imbalances mean: it's mean profit, development and future .. so why China need buy more and sell less (as stupid big brother did) ?

Yes, sometime i trhink why they just don't give these money to locals as coupons for increase consumerism .. but not, they continue support Uncle Sam, European countries ... etc.. That's the secret for me :lol:
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Re: So... will war happen?

Postby tihZ_hO » Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:54 am

idiot wrote:
tihZ_hO wrote:Not at all China has been an arse over trade imbalances for YEARS so who's the smart one? China's like a young spoiled brat fighting with grown ups!

If China is going to be stupid and buy American debt, well let them. Priceless!!

:lol: :lol:


Everybody who has brain understand what's trade imbalances mean: it's mean profit, development and future .. so why China need buy more and sell less (as stupid big brother did) ?

Yes, sometime i trhink why they just don't give these money to locals as coupons for increase consumerism .. but not, they continue support Uncle Sam, European countries ... etc.. That's the secret for me :lol:


HAHAHAHA!!

What at the WORLD'S EXPENSE??

Sorry, China has shovelled billions of dollars into the fire just to "prove" its NOT a developing country!!

You can't cry "developing country" when you do everything you can to show you are not!!

I'm arguing with an idiot!!

:lol: :lol:
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Re: So... will war happen?

Postby coxaca » Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:55 am

idiot wrote:
coxaca wrote:After prohibiting credit, telling everyone who doesn't like it to GTFO (and slaughtering anyone who disobeys)....


Yes, i forget to mean also prohibit STOCK MARKET.

PS: Coxasa, congrats with new avatar ;-)


So, Pol Pot, when did your login get banned?

As for the avatar... ::kiss::
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Re: So... will war happen?

Postby idiot » Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:50 am

coxaca wrote:So, Pol Pot, when did your banged me?

As for the avatar... ::kiss::


NO way. Thanks for kissing my ass.
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Re: So... will war happen?

Postby coxaca » Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:43 am

You're very insecure, aren't you Dr Watson.
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Re: So... will war happen?

Postby idiot » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:17 am

coxaca wrote:You're very insecure, aren't you Dr Watson.


Holy sh1t ! You revealed the secret of century ! Noob ! :lol:

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Re: So... will war happen?

Postby kamote » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:18 am

So... will war happens?

Most likely it will start here in Shanghai Expat
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Re: So... will war happen?

Postby eudaimonic » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:33 am

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there's an unbelievable amount of petty, ill-informed bickering going on in this thread. take a time out children, you're not impressing anybody
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Re: So... will war happen?

Postby coxaca » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:50 am

eudaimonic wrote:there's an unbelievable amount of petty, ill-informed bickering going on in this thread. take a time out children, you're not impressing anybody


There's an unbelievable amount of petty, ill-judged posturing going on in your Fibonacci-spiral avatar and "eudaimonic" login. You're not impressing anyone either, kiddywinks.

(Well, actually, the Fibonacci spiral is pretty cool.)
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Re: So... will war happen?

Postby anter » Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:25 am

I love the F spiral. Some perfect thing in a world of crap.

The catalyst for war -
Everyone, I mean everyone, stops purchasing Chinese made goods and then not being focused on manufacturing and trade, nothing to occupy them.
..."What! no one wants to buy Made in China".
We cannot smoke and mirror by outsourcing to (other) 3rd world countries.
Dust off some nukes.....
Kakaaabooom!

Really, is the incentive to make war, or to make/sell stuff?

Then again, In the immediate region ....
I'f I led ROC, I'd want control of Korea, Taiwan and Japan.
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Re: So... will war happen?

Postby idiot » Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:30 am

coxaca wrote: login.


Usually it's called: "member", "nickname", "id" - BUT not fuсking "login" ! :lol:

Caxaca, try to wear this paint on your login:
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