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Re: Street Smarts | Warnings | Scams

Postby kraftwerk744 » Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:25 am

The best scam attempted on me though, was in Rotterdam railway station at 1am in the Netherlands. I was alone on the train platform, and a black guy comes up to me and says

'hello, can you please help me, i just escaped from JAIL and i don't have any money'.
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Re: Street Smarts | Warnings | Scams

Postby norhor » Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:04 pm

haimenteach wrote:I had a strange encounter in Suzhou this weekend that might have turned into a scam, I'm not sure.


My gf and I were walking down one of the busier streets when a guy in his early 20's walked up to me and started talking with the strangest accent I've have ever heard. It was almost like an over the top valley girl/guy sounding accent that you see in 80's movies. He was talking really fast in English and it completely sounded rehearsed. I kept walking the whole time and he kept following insisting he wasn't trying to sell, lead me anywhere... etc. Every response of "go away please" was like he was reading lines. Sometimes his response didn't even match up with what I had just said. He finally left after I told him he was genuinely creeping me out (the accent was FREAKY).

What was the scam?


I think I've encountered the same person on line 2 once. He was creeping me out with his creepy compliments. I was cool as always and suggested in the start of the pathetic conversation that he would save his own and my time to find another one to hassle. But he wouldn't listen. He just kept on and on about me and what he was doing. At the end of his monologue he asked for money for food and when I said no, he got irritated.
I think he looked me in the eye twice for two second during the ca 5 min monologue.
It seems to me that he just have learned a speak word by word without knowing any English.
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Re: Street Smarts | Warnings | Scams

Postby jeffinflorida » Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:03 pm

norhor wrote:
haimenteach wrote:I had a strange encounter in Suzhou this weekend that might have turned into a scam, I'm not sure.


My gf and I were walking down one of the busier streets when a guy in his early 20's walked up to me and started talking with the strangest accent I've have ever heard. It was almost like an over the top valley girl/guy sounding accent that you see in 80's movies. He was talking really fast in English and it completely sounded rehearsed. I kept walking the whole time and he kept following insisting he wasn't trying to sell, lead me anywhere... etc. Every response of "go away please" was like he was reading lines. Sometimes his response didn't even match up with what I had just said. He finally left after I told him he was genuinely creeping me out (the accent was FREAKY).

What was the scam?


I think I've encountered the same person on line 2 once. He was creeping me out with his creepy compliments. I was cool as always and suggested in the start of the pathetic conversation that he would save his own and my time to find another one to hassle. But he wouldn't listen. He just kept on and on about me and what he was doing. At the end of his monologue he asked for money for food and when I said no, he got irritated.
I think he looked me in the eye twice for two second during the ca 5 min monologue.
It seems to me that he just have learned a speak word by word without knowing any English.


I encountered this guy once. Early 20's short and looked like very strange. Just comes up and starts talking in a matter of fact but rambling way. Sees me looking at the buses lines and asks if I need help. I tell him go away then he just kinda stands in front of me about 2 feet away and talks. I tell him leave me alone and he said he didn't want anything just to practice English. I had to throw in a few F WORDS to get him to back off. He never got to the scam part but it was coming. I've seen many people in life but this kid was STRANGE. Pretty sure it's the same as mentioned above, in Suzhou on Renmin road - close to the shopping street. Usually Suzhou is pretty tame compared to Shanghai.
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Re: Street Smarts | Warnings | Scams

Postby norhor » Sat Dec 24, 2011 8:50 am

haimenteach wrote:He was just talking really fast and asking me where I was from and the like. He said he enjoyed my sense of humor and found me interesting..... which I found strange since I hadn't said anything yet.

Definitely the same guy. I get the creeps just thinking about it. If one guy can stab you to death b/c you didn't give him any money, it's this **** guy.

No scam, just a beggar.

btw, sorry for the spamming, just saw your second post.
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Re: Street Smarts | Warnings | Scams

Postby ultimatekrang » Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:22 pm

kraftwerk744 wrote:I've never been scammed here on the streets. I walk around shanghai at 110% the speed of a normal person with a 1000 yard stare in my eyes. Never even once had someone try to talk to me, any time of day or night.

Just don't talk to people and don't avert your gaze, and you can walk up and down east nanjing lu 100 times a day without a problem. When you are just walking alone, there is no reason for anyone to talk to you, unless they want something. Maybe i'm too anti social to be scammed.


bu yao works for me
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Re: Street Smarts | Warnings | Scams

Postby monalisalee » Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:40 pm

FACK OFF works for me. :lol:
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Re: Street Smarts | Warnings | Scams

Postby FrmBraziltoShanghai » Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:45 am

Warning!

I´ve noticed this at two different Carrefours:

Carrefour Biyun Road, Pudong
Carrefour Xinlicheng Gaoqing Road, Pudong

At the first location I took a can of "pledge" (the aerosol furniture polish), the price on the supermarket shelf was 17RMB. As I watched the cashier scan the items I noticed that the pledge´s price on the monitor had mysteriously gone up to 24RMB, I just assumed that I got the price tags mixed up at the shelf and 17RMB must have been the price of the smaller bottle. I was alone and it was obvious that the result of an argument in English would surely be a rather inconclusive one. However I remembered quite vividly that the price was not 24RMB, simply because I was quite shocked when I saw how expensive the item was in the first place. So I just cursed my disobliging lack of Pǔtōnghuà skills and did not go back to check the actual price marked on shelf.

To my surprise, at the second location a strikingly similar incident took place. This time with a 4 liter water bottle (Aquarius brand), it was easy to spot the overpricing this time, due to the fact that the only 4 liter bottle they had was this one and there was a 5RMB difference in price from the shelf tag to the price shown on the monitor. There´s no way I got the prices mixed up because there weren´t other brands with 4L bottles. Fortunately this time I was accompanied by a Chinese acquaintance who complained on my behalf. (Nothing happened, it just took us 10 minutes to convince the cashier to call the assistant manager, who then typed something on their little keyboard and used his card to cancel the item, the cashier then proceeded to scan the item again with the same price as before, subsequently stood there as if saying “See, I scanned again and that is the price it shows”… I gave up)


I´m not sure whether it is actually a scam or just some database glitch. However, just imagine if they pull this little trick on 5% of the items they sell.
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Re: Street Smarts | Warnings | Scams

Postby jeffinflorida » Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:25 am

It's a scam. Those French are scummy little cowardly bastards
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Re: Street Smarts | Warnings | Scams

Postby FrmBraziltoShanghai » Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:36 pm

jeffinflorida wrote:It's a scam. Those French are scummy little cowardly bastards


Q: What did the French General say to the German Army as they entered Paris during WWII?
A: "Table for One Hundred Thousand?"
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Re: Street Smarts | Warnings | Scams

Postby look2me4guidance » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:30 pm

FrmBraziltoShanghai wrote:... the cashier then proceeded to scan the item again with the same price as before, subsequently stood there as if saying “See, I scanned again and that is the price it shows”… I gave up)


The machine said it was this price the first time.... the machine said it was this price the second time. The machine must be right, how could it get it wrong two times!

Can't you see the logic? :lol:

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Re: Street Smarts | Warnings | Scams

Postby bigroh74 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:51 pm

lasfly123 wrote:tell me guys!!!
here we have an issue when i reply to someone discussion i am getting no proper information of post in next day.
Thanks

Doncha just hate it when that happens? :lol:
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Re: Street Smarts | Warnings | Scams

Postby caisghost » Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:31 pm

FrmBraziltoShanghai wrote:Warning!

I´ve noticed this at two different Carrefours:

Carrefour Biyun Road, Pudong
Carrefour Xinlicheng Gaoqing Road, Pudong

At the first location I took a can of "pledge" (the aerosol furniture polish), the price on the supermarket shelf was 17RMB. As I watched the cashier scan the items I noticed that the pledge´s price on the monitor had mysteriously gone up to 24RMB, I just assumed that I got the price tags mixed up at the shelf and 17RMB must have been the price of the smaller bottle. I was alone and it was obvious that the result of an argument in English would surely be a rather inconclusive one. However I remembered quite vividly that the price was not 24RMB, simply because I was quite shocked when I saw how expensive the item was in the first place. So I just cursed my disobliging lack of Pǔtōnghuà skills and did not go back to check the actual price marked on shelf.

To my surprise, at the second location a strikingly similar incident took place. This time with a 4 liter water bottle (Aquarius brand), it was easy to spot the overpricing this time, due to the fact that the only 4 liter bottle they had was this one and there was a 5RMB difference in price from the shelf tag to the price shown on the monitor. There´s no way I got the prices mixed up because there weren´t other brands with 4L bottles. Fortunately this time I was accompanied by a Chinese acquaintance who complained on my behalf. (Nothing happened, it just took us 10 minutes to convince the cashier to call the assistant manager, who then typed something on their little keyboard and used his card to cancel the item, the cashier then proceeded to scan the item again with the same price as before, subsequently stood there as if saying “See, I scanned again and that is the price it shows”… I gave up)


I´m not sure whether it is actually a scam or just some database glitch. However, just imagine if they pull this little trick on 5% of the items they sell.


Same thing happened to me at Jesco. Turned out the listed price was the discount for the membership card holders. I wonder if Carrefour has the same thing.
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Re: Street Smarts | Warnings | Scams

Postby MoonOverMiami » Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:59 pm

^Carrefour and others were fined heavily last year or the year before for charging more than what is listed on the shelf. Go back to the store and take a picture of the items in question, then take the pictures and your receipt to the Shanghai consumer complaint bureau (sorry, don't know where it is) and file your complaint. If guilty, Carrefour will be heavily fined again.
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Re: Street Smarts | Warnings | Scams

Postby rickpeck » Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:52 am

FrmBraziltoShanghai wrote:
jeffinflorida wrote:It's a scam. Those French are scummy little cowardly bastards


Q: What did the French General say to the German Army as they entered Paris during WWII?
A: "Table for One Hundred Thousand?"


he was probably a corporal, i think all of the generals fled
Amanda? Come on, dude. I mean, that's probably not even her real name.
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Re: Street Smarts | Warnings | Scams

Postby FlowerLady7 » Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:26 pm

FrmBraziltoShanghai wrote:Warning!

I´ve noticed this at two different Carrefours:

Carrefour Biyun Road, Pudong
Carrefour Xinlicheng Gaoqing Road, Pudong

At the first location I took a can of "pledge" (the aerosol furniture polish), the price on the supermarket shelf was 17RMB. As I watched the cashier scan the items I noticed that the pledge´s price on the monitor had mysteriously gone up to 24RMB, I just assumed that I got the price tags mixed up at the shelf and 17RMB must have been the price of the smaller bottle. I was alone and it was obvious that the result of an argument in English would surely be a rather inconclusive one. However I remembered quite vividly that the price was not 24RMB, simply because I was quite shocked when I saw how expensive the item was in the first place. So I just cursed my disobliging lack of Pǔtōnghuà skills and did not go back to check the actual price marked on shelf.

To my surprise, at the second location a strikingly similar incident took place. This time with a 4 liter water bottle (Aquarius brand), it was easy to spot the overpricing this time, due to the fact that the only 4 liter bottle they had was this one and there was a 5RMB difference in price from the shelf tag to the price shown on the monitor. There´s no way I got the prices mixed up because there weren´t other brands with 4L bottles. Fortunately this time I was accompanied by a Chinese acquaintance who complained on my behalf. (Nothing happened, it just took us 10 minutes to convince the cashier to call the assistant manager, who then typed something on their little keyboard and used his card to cancel the item, the cashier then proceeded to scan the item again with the same price as before, subsequently stood there as if saying “See, I scanned again and that is the price it shows”… I gave up)


I´m not sure whether it is actually a scam or just some database glitch. However, just imagine if they pull this little trick on 5% of the items they sell.



A similar thing happened to me recently but in a Family Mart. It was only a small item and the difference was hardly significant, but still... it's the principal. I showed the girl the price tag and told her it was wrong, yet she still wanted me to pay the incorrect- more expensive price. I refused and gave her the amount on the original ticket and she didn't even say anything.
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Re: Street Smarts | Warnings | Scams

Postby monalisalee » Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:39 pm

My ex wife, (Chinese), would check every item on the fapiao, and if she saw something wrong, shewould take it up immediately with the cashier. The cashier would close her booth, until sorted by the floating Manager.
Bit of a hassle, but guess who won about 4 times.
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Re: Street Smarts | Warnings | Scams

Postby PureXTC88 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:42 am

Six jailed for ripping off expat in KTV house

SIX people were sentenced to between eight months and one year in prison for seducing foreigners into a KTV house and forcing them to pay exorbitant bills, Yangpu District People's Court said yesterday.

The six convicts - four men and two women - were ordered to return their illegal income and fined 13,000 yuan (US$2,076) for coercion, the court ruled.

Prosecutors said one convict, surnamed Li, chatted up with an American expat, surnamed Chiavetta, on Pujian Road in the Pudong New Area and seduced him to a KTV house on Changyang Road in Yangpu District on the night of June 6, 2010.

Two female convicts, surnamed Tao and Ge, pretended to be waitresses and accompanied Chiavetta to entertain in the KTV room while serving him with "fine quality" wines, beers and fruit. Each "waitress" received a 100 yuan tip from the expat, the court heard.

When Chiavetta was about to leave, another convict, surnamed Liu, charged the expat 17,580 yuan and threatened to beat him up after he refused to pay the bill, prosecutors said.

Liu also prepared a POS (point of service) machine he had borrowed from a local coffee house and forced Chiavetta to pay by credit card. The six gang members later drew out equivalent cash and shared the money, the court heard.

In court, Liu admitted forcing the American to pay a bill that was much higher than the expat had consumed.

Liu said he paid 1,000 yuan to rent a room in the KTV house, which included all the food and beverages.

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Re: Street Smarts | Warnings | Scams

Postby manicho » Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:24 am

^ m0th3rfu<k1ng scamers.
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Re: Street Smarts | Warnings | Scams

Postby mrbigglesworth » Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:54 pm

Update on the tea house scam here:

i-busted-the-tea-house-scam-t139273.html
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Re: Street Smarts | Warnings | Scams

Postby Zhimeow » Thu May 03, 2012 6:04 pm

Hey guys,
Just wondering, do people still do the tea house scam? I'm heading over to China in a few months along with my foreign partner (I'm Chinese, but basically grew up in Australia my whole life). I'm really tempted to use him as bait and see if girls try to scam him or not xD. Thinking of leaving him somewhere in Renming Square or NanJing Lu and watching him from a distance :O.
I wanna smack a hoe down :D
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Postby GC » Thu May 03, 2012 8:55 pm

MaomingMaster wrote:I hate those little cnuts...

Every time they get near me they regret it.



I wonder what happened to this poster :D
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