Does anyone know where they sell good quality watches? Grade 9 sapphire glass etc...
And what do they cost?
Grtz

At Grand Gateway 港汇广场 are a lot of expensive watch shops.
http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=3 ... ghai&hl=en

There's a few watch shops around Plaza 66 as well...

Jing'an Temple...a row of watch shops.
Assuming you're not looking for fakes since you mention good quality.

Nanjing Dong lu

In HuaiHai Lu you will find amost all the brands

Yeah, but those are not fake. I think OP is looking for the fake stuff.

bigroh74 wrote:Jing'an Temple...a row of watch shops.
Assuming you're not looking for fakes since you mention good quality.

Actually i'm looking for a good replica with swiss movement(ETA movement if possible for a 800RMB)... Do they sell ETA watches in Shanghai and where? Does anyone have a dealer?

vincentclaessen wrote:

bigroh74 wrote:Jing'an Temple...a row of watch shops.
Assuming you're not looking for fakes since you mention good quality.

Actually i'm looking for a good replica with swiss movement(ETA movement if possible for a 800RMB)... Do they sell ETA watches in Shanghai and where? Does anyone have a dealer?[/quote

GOOD QUALITY FAKES. NOT POOR QUALITY FAKES. I don't believe someone actually wants good quality fakes.

Why do you just go over to Yuyuan gardens and see that guy that has been there
for years selling REAL but experienced vintage watches. Including Rolex and that
level of quality?
If your looking for crap where the "tritium" markers fall off the dial of the watch
heck...you can get that crap on any street corner...for a lot less than 800rmb

johnny_tropicana wrote:Why do you just go over to Yuyuan gardens and see that guy that has been there
for years selling REAL but experienced vintage watches. Including Rolex and that
level of quality?
If your looking for crap where the "tritium" markers fall off the dial of the watch
heck...you can get that crap on any street corner...for a lot less than 800rmb

he's not looking for "vintage" he's looking for replica ,aka fakes.

GeneralLi wrote:

johnny_tropicana wrote:Why do you just go over to Yuyuan gardens and see that guy that has been there
for years selling REAL but experienced vintage watches. Including Rolex and that
level of quality?
If your looking for crap where the "tritium" markers fall off the dial of the watch
heck...you can get that crap on any street corner...for a lot less than 800rmb

he's not looking for "vintage" he's looking for replica ,aka fakes.

Yes i'am looking for a fake one... Like: http://www.trtime.com/iwc-portuguese-ch ... -1452.html

or: http://www.trtime.com/iwc-portugese-7-d ... 1c17f34c04

Do they have these in Shanghai and where? I'am looking for this kind of watches...

Yes they have every type of knock off watches; Theres a thread that will give names and address of places to buy them

in soviet China, you dont find watches, watches find you.

I know quite a lot about replica watches. You can find good quality replicas in shanghai but it is difficult. There loads of crap out there. I found some at the Science and Technology museum but it took my half an hour to convince the dealer that I wanted the best quality.

Dont listen to any of the crap about grade A, AAA, AAA++ its all sales speak. Ask for a particular watch and insist on the highest quality. Tap the glass, ask for sapphire and ETA and they'll get the idea that you know what you are talking about and are not some schmuck they can rip the pish out of.

High grade watches made from high grade steel, with good crystal and automatic movements do exist however replicas with genuine ETA movements are now extremely difficult to find. You might find a watch that has what looks like an gen ETA but it will be a fake movement, the dealer will however insist that this " is swiss, genuine swiss" That is not to say that they are poor quality, they can last for a long time indeed.

Stay well clear of anything that has an asian made 7750 replica movemnt, they are used in high end chronograph replicas but are prone to blowing up and are impossible/very expensive to fix. If you want a chronograph replica buy one with a "lemania" hand wind movement, they are not actually lemania movements but are made by a chinese company called seagull who make very reliable watches.

I should have mentioned, guangzhou is the best place to buy replica watches.

minyanville wrote:in soviet China, you dont find watches, watches find you.

Huai Hai Road

dougieboyd wrote:I know quite a lot about replica watches. You can find good quality replicas in shanghai but it is difficult. There loads of crap out there. I found some at the Science and Technology museum but it took my half an hour to convince the dealer that I wanted the best quality.

Dont listen to any of the crap about grade A, AAA, AAA++ its all sales speak. Ask for a particular watch and insist on the highest quality. Tap the glass, ask for sapphire and ETA and they'll get the idea that you know what you are talking about and are not some schmuck they can rip the pish out of.

High grade watches made from high grade steel, with good crystal and automatic movements do exist however replicas with genuine ETA movements are now extremely difficult to find. You might find a watch that has what looks like an gen ETA but it will be a fake movement, the dealer will however insist that this " is swiss, genuine swiss" That is not to say that they are poor quality, they can last for a long time indeed.

Stay well clear of anything that has an asian made 7750 replica movemnt, they are used in high end chronograph replicas but are prone to blowing up and are impossible/very expensive to fix. If you want a chronograph replica buy one with a "lemania" hand wind movement, they are not actually lemania movements but are made by a chinese company called seagull who make very reliable watches.

Okay, Thanks for the info! What dit you pay for your high end replica? Do you have the name of the stable?
And does it still work?
I am only going to shanghai and I want a IWC Portuguese Chronograph Automatic..
Do you have some more suggestions?

dougieboyd wrote:I know quite a lot about replica watches. You can find good quality replicas in shanghai but it is difficult. There loads of crap out there. I found some at the Science and Technology museum but it took my half an hour to convince the dealer that I wanted the best quality.

Dont listen to any of the crap about grade A, AAA, AAA++ its all sales speak. Ask for a particular watch and insist on the highest quality. Tap the glass, ask for sapphire and ETA and they'll get the idea that you know what you are talking about and are not some schmuck they can rip the pish out of.

High grade watches made from high grade steel, with good crystal and automatic movements do exist however replicas with genuine ETA movements are now extremely difficult to find. You might find a watch that has what looks like an gen ETA but it will be a fake movement, the dealer will however insist that this " is swiss, genuine swiss" That is not to say that they are poor quality, they can last for a long time indeed.

Stay well clear of anything that has an asian made 7750 replica movemnt, they are used in high end chronograph replicas but are prone to blowing up and are impossible/very expensive to fix. If you want a chronograph replica buy one with a "lemania" hand wind movement, they are not actually lemania movements but are made by a chinese company called seagull who make very reliable watches.

This information is totally accurate. Too bad so many people are conned by the sales speak from a so called trusted seller. I have not seen any genuine ETA movements for a couple of years now yet most of the domestically produced movements are very reliable.

Often times on the quartz watches that stop working after a few days, weeks or months it is just that the vendor had the watch too long in the shop before selling it and the battery wore out. Just replace the battery or bring it back to the vendor and they will do it for you at no charge. Since the advent of PVD finishes, the finishing process on watches has dramatically improved and lasts years longer than the previously plated surfaces.

Renovator wrote:

dougieboyd wrote:I know quite a lot about replica watches. You can find good quality replicas in shanghai but it is difficult. There loads of crap out there. I found some at the Science and Technology museum but it took my half an hour to convince the dealer that I wanted the best quality.

Dont listen to any of the crap about grade A, AAA, AAA++ its all sales speak. Ask for a particular watch and insist on the highest quality. Tap the glass, ask for sapphire and ETA and they'll get the idea that you know what you are talking about and are not some schmuck they can rip the pish out of.

High grade watches made from high grade steel, with good crystal and automatic movements do exist however replicas with genuine ETA movements are now extremely difficult to find. You might find a watch that has what looks like an gen ETA but it will be a fake movement, the dealer will however insist that this " is swiss, genuine swiss" That is not to say that they are poor quality, they can last for a long time indeed.

Stay well clear of anything that has an asian made 7750 replica movemnt, they are used in high end chronograph replicas but are prone to blowing up and are impossible/very expensive to fix. If you want a chronograph replica buy one with a "lemania" hand wind movement, they are not actually lemania movements but are made by a chinese company called seagull who make very reliable watches.

This information is totally accurate. Too bad so many people are conned by the sales speak from a so called trusted seller. I have not seen any genuine ETA movements for a couple of years now yet most of the domestically produced movements are very reliable.

Often times on the quartz watches that stop working after a few days, weeks or months it is just that the vendor had the watch too long in the shop before selling it and the battery wore out. Just replace the battery or bring it back to the vendor and they will do it for you at no charge. Since the advent of PVD finishes, the finishing process on watches has dramatically improved and lasts years longer than the previously plated surfaces.

Do you have an adress then? And what do/did you pay for such a watch??
Because i'am looking for an IWC Portuguese Chronograph Automatic...

vincentclaessen wrote:

Renovator wrote:

dougieboyd wrote:I know quite a lot about replica watches. You can find good quality replicas in shanghai but it is difficult. There loads of crap out there. I found some at the Science and Technology museum but it took my half an hour to convince the dealer that I wanted the best quality.

Dont listen to any of the crap about grade A, AAA, AAA++ its all sales speak. Ask for a particular watch and insist on the highest quality. Tap the glass, ask for sapphire and ETA and they'll get the idea that you know what you are talking about and are not some schmuck they can rip the pish out of.

High grade watches made from high grade steel, with good crystal and automatic movements do exist however replicas with genuine ETA movements are now extremely difficult to find. You might find a watch that has what looks like an gen ETA but it will be a fake movement, the dealer will however insist that this " is swiss, genuine swiss" That is not to say that they are poor quality, they can last for a long time indeed.

Stay well clear of anything that has an asian made 7750 replica movemnt, they are used in high end chronograph replicas but are prone to blowing up and are impossible/very expensive to fix. If you want a chronograph replica buy one with a "lemania" hand wind movement, they are not actually lemania movements but are made by a chinese company called seagull who make very reliable watches.

This information is totally accurate. Too bad so many people are conned by the sales speak from a so called trusted seller. I have not seen any genuine ETA movements for a couple of years now yet most of the domestically produced movements are very reliable.

Often times on the quartz watches that stop working after a few days, weeks or months it is just that the vendor had the watch too long in the shop before selling it and the battery wore out. Just replace the battery or bring it back to the vendor and they will do it for you at no charge. Since the advent of PVD finishes, the finishing process on watches has dramatically improved and lasts years longer than the previously plated surfaces.

Do you have an adress then? And what do/did you pay for such a watch??
Because i'am looking for an IWC Portuguese Chronograph Automatic...

I get my watches by scrounging through the Science and Technology Museum shops but would not recommend a particular shop as even the people that have the good stuff, mix in junk, and most of the shops trade with each other as they are all friends or family. IWC does not float my boat due to their complexity and 41mm cases just too big for me so although I have seen quite an array of IWC watches at the market you should check them out for yourself and then if you are pleased with the quality find someone that you can trust to bargain it for you.

What I pay for a watch is not important as there are certain vendors that get a lot of business from me each year and when I have sent other people to buy from them, they could not bargain anywhere near the prices I get for an identical watch. Many factors go into the price starting with which day of the week you purchase. When vendors have money in their pockets such as Saturday or Sunday, prices can not be bargained anywhere near what you can get the same item for on Thursday when they are very hungry to make a sale. If you often buy volume from the same few vendors, they will give you a good price as they want you to keep coming back to them, etc. so circumstances, patience and ability to bargain is what will get you the price you deserve. Any transaction in China is all about coming to terms between a willing buyer and a willing seller and has nothing to do with what someone else paid for an identical item.

Renovator wrote:
What I pay for a watch is not important as there are certain vendors that get a lot of business from me each year and when I have sent other people to buy from them, they could not bargain anywhere near the prices I get for an identical watch. Many factors go into the price starting with which day of the week you purchase. When vendors have money in their pockets such as Saturday or Sunday, prices can not be bargained anywhere near what you can get the same item for on Thursday when they are very hungry to make a sale. If you often buy volume from the same few vendors, they will give you a good price as they want you to keep coming back to them, etc. so circumstances, patience and ability to bargain is what will get you the price you deserve. Any transaction in China is all about coming to terms between a willing buyer and a willing seller and has nothing to do with what someone else paid for an identical item.

No, okay. But it is more for me to have an indication of what i 'll have to pay for it. So can you give me an indication at what kind of price i should pay?? Thanks for the info. I can't bargain it myself?

dougieboyd wrote:I should have mentioned, guangzhou is the best place to buy replica watches.

That's not True.....Shanghai is much better....

vincentclaessen wrote:

Renovator wrote:
What I pay for a watch is not important as there are certain vendors that get a lot of business from me each year and when I have sent other people to buy from them, they could not bargain anywhere near the prices I get for an identical watch. Many factors go into the price starting with which day of the week you purchase. When vendors have money in their pockets such as Saturday or Sunday, prices can not be bargained anywhere near what you can get the same item for on Thursday when they are very hungry to make a sale. If you often buy volume from the same few vendors, they will give you a good price as they want you to keep coming back to them, etc. so circumstances, patience and ability to bargain is what will get you the price you deserve. Any transaction in China is all about coming to terms between a willing buyer and a willing seller and has nothing to do with what someone else paid for an identical item.

No, okay. But it is more for me to have an indication of what i 'll have to pay for it. So can you give me an indication at what kind of price i should pay?? Thanks for the info. I can't bargain it myself?

I don't touch IWC's so am really not the guy to ask on that one. Someone else should be able to guide you on that front.

Renovator wrote:I don't touch IWC's so am really not the guy to ask on that one. Someone else should be able to guide you on that front.

No, Okay but can you give an example for another brand watch? What a "regular" price would be fo a good quality replica?

SnappySammy wrote:

dougieboyd wrote:I should have mentioned, guangzhou is the best place to buy replica watches.

That's not True.....Shanghai is much better....

If you say that Shanghai is better where should i, according to you, then go best?

^The last mechanical I bought was a mens Rolex Oyster perpetual day-date 41mm in April 2008 for rmb 115 (good quality finish, crystal (not plastic) with magnified date, working day/date, tight band links, PVD 18k gold finish and of course triple signed) box,papers and all authentication sticker intact. It was for a friend of mine who wears it daily and keeps perfect time. The links have not worn or loosened over time. Prices have come down a little more in the past 2 years for the quartz watches but I am not sure about price fluctuations on the mechanicals but would expect them to not have moved much.

Renovator wrote:^The last mechanical I bought was a mens Rolex Oyster perpetual day-date 41mm in April 2008 for rmb 115 (good quality finish, crystal (not plastic) with magnified date, working day/date, tight band links, PVD 18k gold finish and of course triple signed) box,papers and all authentication sticker intact.

What do you mean bij triple signed? Because depending on the price i'd perhaps take a rolex too!
The gold finish, did it last? I have had some replica's in the past of which the gold went of after a 10 months and it went a kind of green...
115RMB is not much... And do i get at every stall boxes and papers? Is it possible to take the boxes on the plane? Or can i get problems with the customs then?

vincentclaessen wrote:

Renovator wrote:^The last mechanical I bought was a mens Rolex Oyster perpetual day-date 41mm in April 2008 for rmb 115 (good quality finish, crystal (not plastic) with magnified date, working day/date, tight band links, PVD 18k gold finish and of course triple signed) box,papers and all authentication sticker intact.

What do you mean bij triple signed? Because depending on the price i'd perhaps take a rolex too!
The gold finish, did it last? I have had some replica's in the past of which the gold went of after a 10 months and it went a kind of green...
115RMB is not much... And do i get at every stall boxes and papers? Is it possible to take the boxes on the plane? Or can i get problems with the customs then?

A plated finish will often not last even 10 months. A PVD finish will last pretty much forever but can only be done over stanless steel case or brass with a copper content in excess of 70%. We use PVD in our business on commercial doorknobs, faucets, etc. where we give a lifetime guarantee on the finsh or will replace the product free of charge to our customer if the finish wears off. Abuse not included. Triple signed means that the stem of the watch, the case and the works all signed or have the logos as they appear on the original watches. You are only allowed to enter into the US with 1 replica watch at a time, and no that does not mean 1 of each brand. 1 replica watch total is all they will allow if your bags are searched.