SnappySammy wrote:dont trust the courts in china....just start packing......find another place.....

have you been screwd by Chinese courts? While it is apparent that Chinese courts throughout the country are not worth a thumb up, courts in Shanghai do hold certain credibility which you can trust, esp in small cases, such as lease. Pls do have faith here.

Doroto wrote:

SnappySammy wrote:dont trust the courts in china....just start packing......find another place.....

have you been screwd by Chinese courts? While it is apparent that Chinese courts throughout the country are not worth a thumb up, courts in Shanghai do hold certain credibility which you can trust, esp in small cases, such as lease. Pls do have faith here.

I HAVE BEEN SCREWED BY SHANGHAI COURTS....AND MY SHANGHAI LAWYER......... AND THE STATE OWNED SHIPPING LINE.....$545,OOO USD's
plus the cargo was chinese drywall......another slight problem....

leidelaohu wrote:

MoonOverMiami wrote:...can an employer put this clause in the employment contract, that if the employee sues and loses then they will be responsible for the employers' lawyer fees?

Moon, I'm proud of you. Give ya another couple years and you'll make the vicious landlords of old stand up and give face

overh20 is correct (for once)

I know this because I'm in the same situation as the owner of the house we are renting wants to sell it (good luck at the price they are asking). If sold, the contract states 2 months to vacate plus 2 months rent from the owner for the grief it caused.

I personally asked for this to be in the contract as I knew it could be a problem down the road if they sold the property.

Like I said "start packing" Lady LL < Over is always right . When it comes to China he knows something about everything.....His mentor knew everything about everything....

as far as your personal situation I have a beautiful house in FC you might like...then again you might not ....It's very charming....elegant, and understated....somehow I don't think understated elegance is what pushes your button....

Understated elegance = no heat, no hot water, etc....

Yup, I know what you're selling, my friend...

I wasn't selling anything....I was going to loan it to you and your family.....You don't have clue, what my house is like......there's heat(most of the time...and enough hot water for one shower a week.....TIC.....

Wow, you were going to let us borrow it? How kind of you..

If we ever get kicked out of our Jin Qiao trailer, I'll let you know.

I hope it has two large walk-in closets for my clothes, purses and shoes; otherwise it won't be big enough.

it's big enough...trust me.....

In Shanghai, contracts overrule the law in employment issues and I'm sure it's the same in property issues too, especially where foreigners are involved.

Sadly, you only learn such things in China with experience. Look through the contract and negotiate on any point that is important.

We recently requested a clause that states we can complete our lease if the property is sold.

At our last place, there was a vacant lot next door, and we put in a clause that allowed us to exit our contract with three-months' notice and without penalty if major construction (like an office building or apartment complex) starts.