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What made your "bring from home" hot-list?

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Re: What made your "bring from home" hot-list?

Postby NorthernLights » Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:36 pm

Danielm103 wrote:You will need to bring clothes & shoes.
FYI, you can have clothes & shoes made here at any fabric market , be on the search for good tailor after you arrive. My wife found one she uses, she just goes by the shop with a magazine picture and the guy shows up a week later with it made.

Yes bring your jeans


This is more damn trouble than it's worth.

I really do not understand the expat obsession with the damn fabric market. By the time you've gone back 3 times for adjustments or to pick it up again because it's not been ready, you've already lost any savings you would have had in taxi fares/petrol/whatever. You can also add on a good 150RMB for the bottle of wine/whisky/massage you will need to return yourself to your normal mental state after you've left the damn place.
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Re: What made your "bring from home" hot-list?

Postby NorthernLights » Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:38 pm

for clothing etc, shop online. Get it shipped AIRMAIL (not courier), and if you're really worried try to make sure each package is roughly under US$150 (I generally don't bother with the last one).
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Re: What made your "bring from home" hot-list?

Postby Klick » Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:44 pm

NorthernLights wrote:No idea what theraflu is.


You might know it as Lemsip.
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Re: What made your "bring from home" hot-list?

Postby NorthernLights » Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:06 pm

boil some water, add lemon and honey, then and add some whisky.

works just as well!

Personally I go the Vitamin C and loads of fluids route when I'm getting sick, works well for me. My other half takes the "cold and flu medicine" route and generally ends up worse.
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Re: What made your "bring from home" hot-list?

Postby anter » Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:12 pm

supplements
deodorant
psyllium husks
charcoal tablets
cold and flu tables
favourite brand of Japanese green tea
favourite dark chocolate
cosmetics
skin care products
underwear
shoes
hairdryer
toothpaste
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Re: What made your "bring from home" hot-list?

Postby Kickaha » Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:21 pm

To add a bit to the plethora of good advise above:
1) maple syrup - it's the price of liquid gold here and we use it a lot on pancakes and with oatmeal.
2) coffee of choice - we prefer Peets. you can get some good coffee here, but also (relatively) expensive
3) music - i recommend ripping all your CDs and other music to a disc drive and play it via your computer through a DAC (digital to analog converter). We still do not have nice speakers here (sniff sniff), but all of our music (and this is quite a bit) is on a 1 terabyte disc drive (backed up on another drive, of course).
Luckily I go back for a week later this month and will return with a packed duffel bag of the above and some other items.

In regard to clothes, there is a place on Ferguson Lane that sells in "European sizes". My wife is 188 cm tall (or 6'2" but I recommend you convert to metric soon) and she has found a number of nice things there, but bring as much as you can. I am 193 cm and 92 kg and can rarely find anything that fits here in ready made. Your b/f will find it impossible (but this is likely true any place at his size). This could be a good opportunity for him to get some tailored shirts, pants, suits, etc. even without the above mentioned fabric market adventures, and not too expensively.


My wife recently had a "if I had to do it again" epiphany, and one of the things she mentioned was that she would have have brought more household stuff over - pans, pots, cooking utensils, towels, sheets, etc. The time, effort, and cost of looking for and purchasing these items here was far more than the costs of the extra bags on the plane over, which (for United) is $200 for 50lb and 62 linear inches. Consider this when you're planning your trip.

Good luck on your time in Shanghai. I am sure it will be memorable.
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Re: What made your "bring from home" hot-list?

Postby NorthernLights » Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:38 pm

Ikea?
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Re: What made your "bring from home" hot-list?

Postby ThomasCaron » Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:54 pm

Banned and out-of-print books.
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Re: What made your "bring from home" hot-list?

Postby Kickaha » Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:27 pm

NorthernLights wrote:Ikea?


NL, you are correct in saying Ikea has all the household items I listed.
We did spend several hours over three trips there buying some of these things, and I do think it would have been easier and less expensive to put them in a big duffel or two and check these bags on the way over. It was a great time sink and one has to go through process of deciding and paying for it all. Plus I would rather fall out of a tall tree than go through the Ikea gauntlet.
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Re: What made your "bring from home" hot-list?

Postby tihZ_hO » Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:36 pm

buggy wrote:BRAS. Girl, you do not want to have anything to do with Chinese bras. Also, if you are not flat, you won't even have that option.

Anyway, yes, the peanut butter is like American stuff. You can get natural stuff at City Shop et. al. though it is like $15 USD, which always makes me tear up a little.


How Shitty Shop keeps stays in business is testament to how desperate expats are, and how much Chinese love to show off! :lol:

Natural peanut butter here (Jakarta) is about $4 or buy a 1kg bag of raw organic peanuts for $4 and make your own. :wink:
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Re: What made your "bring from home" hot-list?

Postby Bugaga » Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:42 pm

What made your "bring from home" hot-list?


Some medicine and loved CD, books. Last two can be downloaded, but anyway..
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Re: What made your "bring from home" hot-list?

Postby johnny_tropicana » Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:06 am

tihZ_hO wrote:
buggy wrote:BRAS. Girl, you do not want to have anything to do with Chinese bras. Also, if you are not flat, you won't even have that option.

Anyway, yes, the peanut butter is like American stuff. You can get natural stuff at City Shop et. al. though it is like $15 USD, which always makes me tear up a little.


How Shitty Shop keeps stays in business is testament to how desperate expats are, and how much Chinese love to show off! :lol:

Natural peanut butter here (Jakarta) is about $4 or buy a 1kg bag of raw organic peanuts for $4 and make your own. :wink:

Skippy is on sale at Walmart for $1.99 this week
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Re: What made your "bring from home" hot-list?

Postby smalltownsarah » Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:58 am

Has anyone had issues with bogus products? Something labeled one thing ans sold as another? I have heard that this is an issue with alcohol, clothing and electronics, but what about food? Are there some places that I should stray away from when shopping?
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Re: What made your "bring from home" hot-list?

Postby tihZ_hO » Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:50 am

johnny_tropicana wrote: Skippy is on sale at Walmart for $1.99 this week


That's actually good! :shock: wow

In Jakarta, as I was shopping today (at a local supermarket nothing special about it) here's a quick comparison...

Smuckers jam here is about $2.50 and its everywhere (Skippy is about $3ish) 1kg raw peanuts I was wrong its $2.50ish
USA Pancake mix is about $5 many other brands including local which is about $2
Canadian 100% pure maple syrup is about $8~9
Hellman's Mayo $2.50ish (Small jar) Really good (not sweet) local 500ml is the same price
1kg pasta - spaghetti $2.50ish - its local and I can't tell the difference from imported
500ml Fillippo Berio Extra Virgin Olive Oil about $6.50
8 thick slice multi-grain bread $2

Do I miss Shanghai?

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Re: What made your "bring from home" hot-list?

Postby FlowerLady7 » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:11 pm

smalltownsarah wrote:Has anyone had issues with bogus products? Something labeled one thing ans sold as another? I have heard that this is an issue with alcohol, clothing and electronics, but what about food? Are there some places that I should stray away from when shopping?



Probably everything... But you get use to it. Alcohol is the worst as you actually feel like crap the next day but hey ho. What doesn't kill you...
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Re: What made your "bring from home" hot-list?

Postby toyboatt » Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:01 pm

1. Anything electronic. My next trip home I'm buying a laptop; wish I would have bought one before coming over. Get a phone. Make sure everything works on 220-240 voltage.

2. More shoes. I bought 3 pair (size 13 mens) and wish I would have brought 6. I would definitely pay for the extra bag in hindsight, it is cheaper than shipping, and cheaper and easier than buying here. Also I need a pair of shoes for the summer rainy season; something that can walk through puddles and get soaked. I'm thinking sandals to wear barefoot that have a good sole and drain easily.

3. Gluten-free stuff. If you don't know why, then you don't have to worry about this.

4. A couple of my favorite bottles of liquor. Stuff is expensive here!

5. A big very warm well fitting winter coat. The more it costs back home the more you'll overpay for it here. It needs a hood big enough to wear over a wool hat to survive 30 minute walks in near-freezing weather. I got a coat here, but it lacks an inside chest pocket, and the sleeves aren't long enough (normal size is L-Tall)

6. More jeans.. I underestimated how much the cold affects me here, and overestimated how professionally dressed my colleagues would be. They have jeans tall enough for me here (188cm), but they are all cut to not fit me well.. shallow pockets, legs too thin, waist too big. I will be trying a tailor soon.
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Re: What made your "bring from home" hot-list?

Postby tihZ_hO » Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:06 am

^ Yup very good clothes.

1/ Everyday clothes are way cheaper in the US than in China. In China you pay a lot more for low quality jeans and shirts while the Jeans and shirts from Walmart / Target are cost much less and are a higher quality.

3/ A Wifi router. The routers I bought in China have Chinese firmware so setting it up is a pain, and there has been stories floating around that all routers sold in China have a "backdoor" for the China Great Firewall...just rumours

2/ Socks and underwear for the guys. Such as Hanes, BVD and so on.

3/ I concur about shoes - Chinese have small feet and the styles are, well, Chinese
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Re: What made your "bring from home" hot-list?

Postby smalltownsarah » Mon Feb 06, 2012 1:09 am

Thank you everyone for all the responses! I have been writing notes and saving links like a mad lady! :)

I have heard a few people talk about online shopping; what companies are the best for shipping to China without costing an arm and a leg? Do you have to deal with import taxes/security searches for everything shipped into China? Any hints on stream-lining that process? If someone from home (USA) was to send me a care package what would be the best way/company to send things through? I looked up FedEx and USPS and they are HORRIBLE unless you ship something under 4lbs. Any hints?

Thank you all!
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Re: What made your "bring from home" hot-list?

Postby NorthernLights » Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:26 am

never send anything via courier. It gets jammed up in customs and you get slammed with a nice 50% duty on "luxury goods" even if those "luxury goods" are a bunch of cheap crap.

Send via airmail, try to keep the price limit per package (if it is declared) below USD$150. It is actually faster than courier sadly enough because it doesn't get held up in customs.
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Re: What made your "bring from home" hot-list?

Postby maimai83 » Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:43 am

tihZ_hO wrote:
johnny_tropicana wrote: Skippy is on sale at Walmart for $1.99 this week


That's actually good! :shock: wow

In Jakarta, as I was shopping today (at a local supermarket nothing special about it) here's a quick comparison...

1) Smuckers jam here is about $2.50 and its everywhere (2)Skippy is about $3ish) 3)1kg raw peanuts I was wrong its $2.50ish
4) USA Pancake mix is about $5 many other brands including local which is about $2
5) Canadian 100% pure maple syrup is about $8~9
6) Hellman's Mayo $2.50ish (Small jar) Really good (not sweet) local 500ml is the same price
7) 1kg pasta - spaghetti $2.50ish - its local and I can't tell the difference from imported
8) 500ml Fillippo Berio Extra Virgin Olive Oil about $6.50
9) 8 thick slice multi-grain bread $2

Do I miss Shanghai?

:lol:

1) Looks like ya win out on that one by about $1.30... but you can get a lot better stuff than that junk
2) Actually got this at the store a few days back for 15 - 510g thing of it.
3) With or without shells? without em, they cost like 10 kuai a kilo here at the market (seriously, like half of all peanuts are grown in China.. why would anyone import from a country that pays farmers to not grow peanuts?)
4) God knows why people actually pay $5 for 2 kuai of ingredients that take 1 minute or less to assemble
5) US price for 1L: $20, China price: 200 kuai - overpriced but reasonable
6) Get in bag, dump in jar. 30 kuai for 1kg
7) 1kg imported pasta - about 30 kuai
8) 1L for 80... so 500ml for 40
9) Hello bread machine and unlimited fresh cheap bread of my own design and choosing every morning. About $50-60 and it'll pay itself off in 2 months assuming you really like bread.


As for my list:
1) Old Spice Gel Deo - Got em at $1 a pop a long while back and brought over a quarter suitcase of it.
2) Clothes - Mostly Tshirts and Jeans and socks (oh how i love my cheap hanes ankle socks!)... everything else is easy to get the way I like it for cheap.
3) Amazingly good coffee - Seriously, spend real money on this
4) Port wine... correction, GOOD port wine. You can hit up just about everything else in duty free
5) Vintage cast iron - yes, I have some of the newer stuff over here, but i loves my 100 year old 10" frying pan
6) Home phone. The models here are crap, I have a 5-handset DEC6 Panasonic with bluetooth and all the bells and whistles I grabbed up for $75 and is better than anything they have here yet... tack on another 30 kuai for adapters and 20 minutes with the soldering iron to make it look nice.
7) INSTANT pistachio pudding... good luck ever finding that here... it's my guilty pleasure
8) Glass & Steel Portofina LS L-Desk. Was a pain to do it, but totally worth it. Impossible to get over here and everything close is expensive.. mine was $50.
9) San Fran Sourdough starter... sure, you can start your own over here, but this stuff is great.
10) (didn't bring it, I am an idiot and sold mine years ago) Cheap, round waffle maker... no, not belgian! not hearts! not square! yes, you will have to get an 220->110v supply for it and it will cost you more than the damn waffle maker did. yes, it is made in china... no, you will never find one here no matter how hard you look unless you are willing to go cast iron old-timey and burn yourself repeatedly while making a huge mess.
11) Tall Kitchen garbage bags with the drawstring. You can get a western kitchen, you can get a western-sized kitchen trash can... but good luck getting the 13 gallon bag to go with it! I have an offbrand, but it was like $5 for a roll of 200 of em (so I got 2 rolls).

Spices and whatever, it used to be a pain, but now it's easy to find and only rarely is something even close to pricey. I remember the days when dental floss and decent qtips were on the list. Those days are long since past. Meds are rather similar, either there will be a domestic brand for dirt cheap, an imported brand for far less than it is in the US, or it'll be something that isn't really even medicine and you can get online.
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Re: What made your "bring from home" hot-list?

Postby 3dif1s » Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:16 am

If you need to buy large shoes in China, I recommend Taobao (Google translate can handle it well if you can't read Chinese). Prices are good and they have all the sizes that the stores don't.

What I brought back from my last visit home was liquor, because it just seems off over here; Glide dental floss, cuz the stuff here just falls apart, gets stuck, etc.; and microwavable popcorn, so I can chillax at home and watch a movie and eat salty popcorn. If you go to the cinema, you'll find out.
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Re: What made your "bring from home" hot-list?

Postby smalltownsarah » Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:48 am

By boyfriend is a dedicated tequila drinker and didn't see much of it the last time he was in China. Any ideas where to buy it? Preferably Hornitos, Patron or something of equal quality (no Jose Cuervo - blah!).
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Re: What made your "bring from home" hot-list?

Postby maimai83 » Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:04 am

http://www.shanghai9.net/tequila/patron ... quila.html

Not a *horrible* price... if you hunt around you can probably find a better price for it though. But there it is.
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Re: What made your "bring from home" hot-list?

Postby wearol » Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:15 pm

smalltownsarah wrote:I will be moving to Shanghai in July and am trying to figure out what kind of things I should bring. I know the basics; deodorant, shampoo, toothpaste, extra shoes, vitamins, meds, etc. What I want to know is what made it into your suitcase? What do you wish you brought? What do you find hard to find/expensive that should be brought from home? Any info is greatly appreciated!

Sarah

Maybe you should prepare a suit of evening gown for hanging out. :lol:
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Re: What made your "bring from home" hot-list?

Postby historymaker910 » Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:15 pm

NorthernLights wrote:never send anything via courier. It gets jammed up in customs and you get slammed with a nice 50% duty on "luxury goods" even if those "luxury goods" are a bunch of cheap crap.

Send via airmail, try to keep the price limit per package (if it is declared) below USD$150. It is actually faster than courier sadly enough because it doesn't get held up in customs.



Northernlights- how come we shouldnt send via courier. how we send via airmail which company?
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Re: What made your "bring from home" hot-list?

Postby shaboom » Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:04 am

jzzzzzzz wrote:Marmite


Wait what?! No Marmite in Shanghai at all?

I'm going to need a bigger case.
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Re: What made your "bring from home" hot-list?

Postby lemon_j » Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:05 am

Stark wrote:Sarah, I'm not a girl but I would definitely bring all the clothes you're going to need. The fabric market might be able to sew up some stuff for you but the average Chinese girl is 5'2, 100 pounds and a size 0.

And yeah, likely no dryer unless you're willing to pay 1k USD a month for an apartment. However, if you really want one (and I did) you can buy them for less than 2,000 rmb. I'm happy with mine, and now I never have to wait for my jeans to dry.

And your bf has the dimensions of an NBA center. He's going to get lots of attention.


Where do you go to buy a dryer?
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Re: What made your "bring from home" hot-list?

Postby FlowerLady7 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:16 pm

^ I have a dryer in mine and I'm not paying anywhere near 1k us...
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Re: What made your "bring from home" hot-list?

Postby kallia » Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:34 pm

shaboom wrote:
jzzzzzzz wrote:Marmite


Wait what?! No Marmite in Shanghai at all?

I'm going to need a bigger case.


Relax ~ I saw some today in City Shop today :p
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Re: What made your "bring from home" hot-list?

Postby jzzzzzzz » Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:37 pm

shaboom wrote:Wait what?! No Marmite in Shanghai at all?

I'm going to need a bigger case.


You can get Marmite but it's roughly 8 quid for the tiniest jar.
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