What to do in a Chinese Hospital

by **martinear** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:01 pm

Wow, a good share in this post. All I do when go to the hospital is wishing to come up with a doctor with enough pationce, I can easily get scared of them.

by **Sherali** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:12 pm

did somebody ever had problem of hairloss? I am kinda pissed off, I've been in several hosppitals here in shanghai, and it seems useless.. the total time they need to have a diagnosis is just minute or some... you can feel that it's bullsh*t, cuz none of the medicine they told to use helps.... Does anybody know a good place to go with this kind of problem??

by **GiveEmOpium** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:21 pm

I just came back from the "6th peoples hospital" on yishanlu

If you live in Xujiahui & you value your time, I can only recommend this to you. Its a university (jiaotong) hospital, tripleA status (among the best in china), they are specialists for broken bones.

very efficient processing.
From the moment I went in to the moment I went out... 40 min
(including 1st time registration, finding my rooms&docs, X-ray, diagnosis, paying (70yuan alltogether guys,,.. seventy yuan).

great place.. and none of this bullfeces tests they do at the expat hospitals to make money off your ensurance and waste your time.

by **blondesands** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:59 am

The 6th hospital has a good reputation. During the Sichuan earthquake recovery, several of the top doctors from there flew to the disaster area to help out. Although the English communication is limited (the signage is in English), you could still get around, using body language and possibly getting someone to go with you if you're nervous. It is a very busy hospital, but the prices are MUCH cheaper than the expat hospitals.

by **Zeliboba** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:04 pm

did somebody ever had problem of hairloss? I am kinda pissed off, I've been in several hosppitals here in shanghai, and it seems useless.. the total time they need to have a diagnosis is just minute or some... you can feel that it's bullsh*t, cuz none of the medicine they told to use helps.... Does anybody know a good place to go with this kind of problem??

Make hair transplantation surgery. In Renai they do that.

by **chrisaus** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:19 am

Parkwaycommunity wrote:Sign up our Local Hospital Tour!
Our local hospital tour will take you to two reputable hospitals in Pudong, one for adult and one for children. We will guide you through the various departments of hospital, and explain the procedures of seeing a docotor and getting emergency medical care.
The tour will be conducted by Lin Chen Pharm. D.
Date: Tuesday June 2nd, 2009 9;30-12:00
Meet Place: Parkway Community Pharmacy
333 BiYun Road 9-B101A (Green Garden Compound)
JinQiao, Pudong, Shanghai, 201206
www.parkwaycommunitypharmacy.com
Charge: 300 RMB
RSVP: 021-3382-1382

"Charge: 300RMB": I wonder how many people attended this guided tour. I can't believe they charge people a fee while the tour is purly for their own business purpose. It is just like charging people for watching their ads. It's ridiculous and unbelievably greedy.

My suggestion is that these hospitals should have open day regularly and provide free BBQ or hand out free whatever tickets in order to attract more customers / patients. They should thank people for visiting their hospitals rather than charging people money.

by **chrisaus** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:45 am

"Make hair transplantation surgery. In Renai they do that."

There are many different type of hair loss, e.g., androgenetic alopecia, alopecia areata / alopecia totalis etc.

The long term outcome of hair transplant for androgenic alopecia is not as good as you expected. The new hair often disappears (just like the original hair). It's better off to try Minoxidil lotion or gel. But the problem is that you have to use it for at least 12 months and if you stop the medication, hair loss will recur. So it's a lifetime expensive treatment.

For alopecia areata, it may recover by itself. There are many different treatment options, including Minoxidil lotion, cortisone, or immunotherapy.

But any way, you need to see a doctor specialising in hair loss.

by **chrisaus** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:45 am

Camivill: "If you go to the foreign-expensive hospitals that charge a lot but its a chinese doctor, well u can ask all the questions u want but make sure the chinese its qualified and that he or she examines you.. as i told u before its a good sign, the ones that seldom look at you... just run!!!!"

Well said. I don't think there are any real general practitioners in China (except some from overseas)

There are several "foreign-expensive hospitals" in Shanghai. There are two major issues with these hospitals:

(1) Management of the hospitals:
These hospitals are usually sino-foreign join ventures and managed by chinese teams who may not familiar with the healthcare system in western countries. For example, most of these hospitals are actively seeking new doctors to work there recently. I sent emails to some of them recently in order to get more information (including salary package) but they never replied. So I decided to ring them (from Australia). What I found out is that they expect you to apply for the job without knowing all the details. This is why they never tell you their direct phone numbers in their ads.

Another example is charging people who attend the open day of these hospitals (see my post above). A local hospital I work at in Australia has open day regularly. The hospital provides visitors free coffee, soft drinks and biscuit / cakes and never charges any fees.

(2) The quality of medical staff: I've browsed through the websites of these hospitals and noted that the experience and qualifications among their doctors vary enormously. For example, most chinese "general practitoners" who work at these "foreign-expensive hospitals" never worked / practiced in a western country and their experience, knowledge, skills and competency are obviously questionable. You may find following links useful for your own research:

http://www.ghcchina.com/doctors.aspx?did=18

http://www.kcimc.com/team.asp

http://www.globaldoctor.com.au/Staff.as ... D=Services

(very interesting about Dr. Jesus Narvaez, who "graduated from Orient Medical University". His education and qualifications looked a bit confusing. I googled "Orient Medical University" and found no results.)

http://www.unitedfamilyhospitals.com/list03.asp

http://www.seimc.com.cn/medical/general.htm

Here are two posts on this forum:
(1) Edbreejen (under the thread “Huashan Hospital Foreign Clinic – Stay away”):

“It's not only Huashan's foreigner clinic that's a scam, in general all 'special foreigner clinics' of regular hospitals are. They offer consults from a limited number of doctors of their complete staff. These are not necessary the best doctors, but probably the only ones that can speak more than 100 words of English. The only benefits are a shorter queue and a cleaner toilet. For this special service, you pay about 10x the going local rate.”

(2) MVAgusta (under the thread “World Link change to Parkway health”):

“My son cut his finger recently…but Parkway or formerly WorldLink refused to look at his wound until I had to raise a stink and they still told us to go somewhere else because "the doctor was busy" and he is not trained to stitch people up (what!?!, isn't that what they do, we are not talking about major surgery here)."

Yes, a competent general practitioner should be able to manage this kind of minor injuries.

by **FTM** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:58 pm

(very interesting about Dr. Jesus Narvaez, who "graduated from Orient Medical University". His education and qualifications looked a bit confusing. I googled "Orient Medical University" and found no results.)

It could probably be because the university's name has been translated from Spanish (Escuela de Medicina Universidad de Oriente). All the links leading to the school seem to be blocked, though.

by **Dahvida** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:22 pm

Where can I buy a Hampster in Shanghai? Any help will be gratefully received. My daughter is driving me nuts

by **bbc74** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:55 pm

Wow are they using hamsters in Chinese hospitals now? Dahvid i think your question should go in the question and answer section.

by **globalnomad** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:41 pm

I had to quote this again, as this is too stupidly ridiculously hilarious, that Parkway is charging for a tour! Way to build a loyal customer base Parkway.

chrisaus wrote:
Parkwaycommunity wrote:Sign up our Local Hospital Tour!
Our local hospital tour will take you to two reputable hospitals in Pudong, one for adult and one for children. We will guide you through the various departments of hospital, and explain the procedures of seeing a docotor and getting emergency medical care.
The tour will be conducted by Lin Chen Pharm. D.
Date: Tuesday June 2nd, 2009 9;30-12:00
Meet Place: Parkway Community Pharmacy
333 BiYun Road 9-B101A (Green Garden Compound)
JinQiao, Pudong, Shanghai, 201206
www.parkwaycommunitypharmacy.com
Charge: 300 RMB
RSVP: 021-3382-1382

"Charge: 300RMB": I wonder how many people attended this guided tour. I can't believe they charge people a fee while the tour is purly for their own business purpose. It is just like charging people for watching their ads. It's ridiculous and unbelievably greedy.

My suggestion is that these hospitals should have open day regularly and provide free BBQ or hand out free whatever tickets in order to attract more customers / patients. They should thank people for visiting their hospitals rather than charging people money.

by **hangbang** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:05 am

There is good clinic for pains related to spine. Korean doctor， a lot of experience , clean. He is really good at American-style of Chiropractic as well as Acupuncture and herbal treatment. They have interpreters
it's called public aviation hospital, not far from carrefour Gubei, at 388 Hong Bao Shi Road third floor, Gubei, Changning District. (红宝石路388号,三楼, 古北，长宁区) Tel: 021)6209-2676

by **pearlmilktea** » Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:45 pm

Hi all, just thought I'd share my experience at Renji Hospital East (Pudong). 上海交通大学医学院附属仁济医院.
I had conjunctivitis over the weekend and didn't really want to wait to see an eye doctor on Monday, so I went to the emergency ward of Renji in Pudong near Pujian road.

* Check in: Walked in and went to the window on left of the entrance, stood in back of a huddle of pushy people, and had to elbow my way to the window to keep others from jumping the queue. I told the attendants my problem and they gave me a member book and card. Then I had to go to the window directly opposite that window, did the elbow shuffle again, and paid my 15 RMB registration fee. The woman instructed me to go upstairs. All of this communication was in rudimentary Chinese. I don't think they spoke much English.

* At the "yan ke" optometry department there was a single doctor (no nurses or other staff) who was basically twiddling his thumbs waiting for patients. He looked at my eyes for just a couple of mins, diagnosed conjunctivitis quickly, and prescribed some 'yan shui' eye drops. Fast and easy. Nice guy too. Spoke both English and was patient with my basic Chinese.

* Back downstairs to pay the bill at the 2nd window (did more elbowing and even threw in a shoulder to block a pushy middle aged woman). Paid another 50 RMB or so and was sent to the pharmacy down the hall to pick up my eye drops.

* This is where it was scary. To get to the pharmacy I had to pass down a narrow corridor filled with sick patients, most of whom were on hospital beds. I passed by more than 30 patients who looked like they were just dumped in the hallway because there was nowhere else to put them. I got to the little window and got my meds. The pharmacist spoke a little English and told me how often to take the drops, but she wasn't at all patient or willing to clarify. I was elbowed out of line and went on out of the hospital, passing by the gauntlet of sick patients... trying not to look.

* Summary: The hospital was clean (although old and worn out a bit); the doctor was fast and courteous; and the registration process was easy, but fighting other patients to get to the window made it a bit exhausting. Although if you're not able to get used to doing that in China you'll never make it. Only the pushy survive. I didn't like all the sick patients dumped into the hall that led to the pharmacy...was there no where else to put them? But I got what I needed for a decent price, and I'm glad I went.

Don't hesitate if you need cheap medical attention in Pudong and can speak some Chinese or can go with someone who can. This hospital experience ranked well below what I've experienced in Hong Kong, Singapore, and Taipei, but its better than paying exorbitant fees at some 'Western' clinic like Parkway or Shanghai East Int'l.

by **Shady_Slim** » Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:14 pm

Used the rip off services of Worldlink in 2004, never been back since then, been hearing a lot of good things about the Renai Hospital near Ikea in Xuhui from a lot of friends recently, good doctors and resonable priced too.

by **andyplus** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:59 am

ALL IN ALL, if you donot speak Chinese and no friends can help donot bother yourself to a local hospital. what you need is only a tiny little insurance..Cheers.

by **braincracking** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:49 pm

Need health care plan? Feel free to contact me. andy.li@axa-minmetals.com.cn Direct line 021-38579550

...which I'm sure you can provide...

On topic, going to the expensive expat hospitals doesn't always turn out the way it should be. The last time I have been(For bronchitis in SEIMC) they first made me wait for 2 hours, then let me see a doctor for 5 minutes, which subscribes me antibiotics which are way to weak and still let me dangle between ill/cured for 2 weeks. All this for the extortionate price of 800Rmb.... Out of my own pocket may I add, I think I'll go back to Renji next time... (On a sidenote, I did have good experiences there before, but the last time was a BIG no go!)

by **andyplus** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:37 am

I said that because normally You have to wait more than one or two hours to see a doctor in a Chinese hospital in rush hour. More importantly, if they donot speak your language it will be really bad when you are in emergent situation.

So donot bother.

by **Michael** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:45 am

Way to dig up an old post.
BTW, if you can speak some chinese or have a friend- spouse who can go along with you, and you ARE paying out of pocket, for things that are not too serious, its not a bad option. However, still recommend you have some insurance for at least catastrophic care.

by **Tiffyannny** » Tue May 25, 2010 9:01 pm

joyceko0922 wrote:Hi there,

I'm so sorry to hear that you got upset by that hospital, i'm an insurance broker in Shanghai, so i have some hospital lists for everyone, especially for foreigners, better service, better hospitals:)

AIU Direct Billing Provider Network List in Shanghai (as of Dec, 2006)

World Link International Medical Centers
上海瑞新医疗中心

WorldLink Specialty & Inpatient Center
(Shanghai Xin Rui Healthcare Co. Ltd）
Address: 3rd floor, 170 Danshui Road, Shanghai, 200020
上海市淡水路170号3楼
Tel: +8621 6445 5999
Fax: +8621 6385 9890
Website: http://www.worldlink-shanghai.com
Email: services@worldlink-shanghai.com

WorldLink Hong Qiao Villa Medical Centre
(Shanghai Rui Xiang Clinic Co. Ltd.）
Address: 2258 Hong Qiao Lu, Hong Qiao, Shanghai, 201103
上海市虹桥路2258号
Tel: +8621 6445 5999
Fax: +8621 6242 8678
Website: http://www.worldlink-shanghai.com
Email: services@worldlink-shanghai.com

Shanghai Center Medical and Dental Center
(Shanghai Rui Xin Healthcare Co. Ltd.）
Address: 203-4 West Retail Plaza, 1376 Nanjing Xi Road, Shanghai, 200040
上海市南京西路1376号上海商城西峰203-4室
Medical Tel: +8621 6445 5999
Medical Fax: +8621 6279 7698
Dental Tel: +8621 6279 8318
Dental Fax: +8621 6279 8343
Website: http://www.worldlink-shanghai.com
Email: services@worldlink-shanghai.com

Jin Qiao Medical and Dental Center
(Shanghai Rui Pu Clinic Co. Ltd.）
Address: 51 Hong Feng Road, Jin Qiao, PuDong, Shanghai, 201206
上海市浦东金桥红枫路51号
Tel: +8621 5032 8288
Fax: +8621 5032 5825
Website: http://www.worldlink-shanghai.com
Email: services@worldlink-shanghai.com

Shanghai East International Medical Center
东方联合医院
Address: No.551 South Pudong Road, Shanghai, 200120
上海市浦东南路551号
Phone: +86 21 5879 9999
Fax: +86 21 6887 1089
Website: http://www.seimc.com.cn
Email : care@seimc.com.cn

Global Healthcare Clinic
全康医疗
Address: Rm 301, Shanghai Kerry Centre, No.1515 Nanjing Xi Lu, Shanghai, 200040
上海市南京西路1515号上海嘉里中心301室
Phone: +86 21 5298 6339
Fax: +86 21 5298 6993
Website: http://www.ghcchina.com
Email: info@ghcchina.com

SinoUnited Health Clinic
Address: Rom 601, Shanghai Centre, 1376 Nanjing Xi Lu, Shanghai, 200041
上海市南京西路1376号上海商城601室
Phone: +86 21 6279 8920
Fax: +86 21 6279 8921
Website: http://www.sinounitedhealth.com
Email: tkeaney@sinounitedhealth.com

Sunshine Children’s Hospital
圣安儿童医疗中心
Address: 85 Yi Li Road (S), Ming Hang District, Shanghai, 201103
上海市闵行区伊犁南路85号
Phone: +86 21 5477 6480
Fax: +86 21 5477 6487
Website: http://www.sccsa.com.cn

CIDI Dental Clinic
西典齿科
Address: Rm 706-708, 7th Floor, No. 495 Jiangning Road, Shanghai, 200041
上海市江宁路495号706-708室
Phone: +86 21 5115 4575
Fax: +86 21 5115 4553
Website: http://www.cididental.com
Email: dentist@cididental.com

DUZ Dental
得之口腔诊所
Address: 28D East Tower, XinAn Building, No.200 ZhenNing Road, Shanghai, 200040
上海市镇宁路200号欣安大厦东峰28D
Phone: +86 21 6247 3247
Fax: +86 21 6247 3246
Website: http://www.duz-dental.com

United Family
上海和睦家医院
Hospital
Address: No.1139 Xianxia Road, Shanghai, 200336
上海市长宁区仙霞路1139号
Phone: +86 21 5133 1901
Fax: +86 21 5133 1919
Website: http://www.unitedfamilyhospitals.com
Email: shumarketing@ufh.com.cn

Clinic
Address: Ground Floor,Clubhouse, Shanghai Racquet Club,
Lane 555, Jinfeng Lu, Huacao Town, Shanghai
上海市闵行区华漕镇金丰路555弄上海网球俱乐部底楼
Phone: +86 21 2201 0995
Website: http://www.unitedfamilyhospitals.com
Email: srcclinic@ufh.com.cn

Shanghai Chenxin Hospital
上海辰新医院
Address: Level 9, 937 Yan An Xi Road, Shanghai, 200050
上海市延安西路937号9楼
Phone: +86 21 6225 3456
Fax: +86 21 6211 4451
Website: http://www.chenxin.com.cn
Email: service@chenxin.com.cn

Shanghai Guangci Memorial Hospital
上海广慈纪念医院
Address: 197, Ruijin er Road, Shanghai, 200025
上海市瑞金二路197号
Phone: +86 21 6437 8700
Fax: +86 21 6431 2610
Email: guangci@rjh.com.cn

Arrail Dental
瑞尔齿科
Lippo Plaza Clinc
Add: Unit 204, Lippo Plaza, 222 HuaiHai Zhong Road, Shanghai 200021
上海市淮海中路222号力宝广场204室
Tel: 021-53966539
Fax: 021-53965971
Website: http://www.arrail-dental.com
E-mail: ash@arrail-dental.com

Times Square Clinc
Add: Unit 417, Huarun Times Square, 500 Zhang yang Road, Shanghai 200122
上海市浦东新区张杨路500号华润时代广场417室
Tel: 021-58368100
Fax: 021-58368690
Website: http://www.arrail-dental.com
E-mail: ashts@arrail-dental.com

Super Brand Mall Clinic
Add: B1, Super Brand Mall, Lujiazui, Pudong, Shanghai 200122
上海市浦东陆家嘴西路正大广场地下1楼
Tel: 021-50476878
Fax: 021-50476877
Website: http://www.arrail-dental.com
E-mail: ashbr@arrail-dental.com

Nanjing Road Clinic
Add: 3F Ciro’s Plaza, 388 Nanjing Xi Lu, Shanghai 200003
上海市南京西路388号仙乐斯广场3楼
Tel: 021-63599359
Fax:021-63595359
Website: http://www.arrail-dental.com
E-mail: ashcl@arrail-dental.com

Hope this information is kinda helpful for who needs.

Oh my this list is definately helpful. Never been sick in shanghai but better to be prepared. However, are all these hospitals children-friendly? Been looking for a place for children, not very confident in the local ones.

by **medicare** » Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:01 pm

Thanks Joyceko..
u sharing wonderful info ...

by **narung** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:02 pm

wow great information about Chinese Hospital.I would like to visit China. To see all of this .
Great Hours spending In China.

by **BONNIE** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:26 pm

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by **HaroldTheIronmonger** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:30 pm

What to do in a Chinese Hospital

GTFO

by **johnny_tropicana** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:32 am

HaroldTheIronmonger wrote:
What to do in a Chinese Hospital

GTFO

Die, it is easier.

by **rocco72** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:39 am

dobbstopper wrote:Chang Hai Hospital is a great hospital for anyone located in the Yangpu area. Very nice building and friendly people. As with many hospitals in China, just make sure you're speaking to an adequately qualified person from the beginning (in regards to your needs). Even in the same hospital, doctors can be separated by price and availability according to their skill level (go figure).

Don't take the risk with a small local hospital... I've done it with terrible results.

hit on the nurses

by **alextui** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:14 am

thanks, nice to know

by **Capri-Sun** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:48 pm

I tooken some medcine from my doctor in Germany, how should I find a place wher can give me injection?

by **chrisaus** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:50 pm

toodous wrote:hello everybody,
i'm sorry i come late here.

i know well about the government hospitals. yes, HUashan, Renji, Zhongshan, Ruijin, Shuguang, Longhua, are all good hospitals, three jia degree.

everyday, many people go there. even for local people, we have to wait, sometimes for a whole morning, to meet the doctor. especial he is a famous one.

my university schoolmates are many in hospitals as doctors now. lucky i donot have that trouble to wait.

Toodous, are you sure you know government hospitals well?

Public hospital fundings in China are not from state or local governments but mainly from the fees paid by either patients or employer's health funds. The salaries of doctors and nurses heavily rely on the earning from selling drugs, ordering unnecessary but expensive tests and investigations and kick backs from pharmaceutical companies and medical equipment manufacturers. As a result, doctors in China may prescribe medications or order investigations that you don't need.

I have discussed the matter with some doctors in China recently. They agreed that all public hospitals in China are in deed private hospitals as they are not funded by taxpayers. The Chinese "public" hospital system is absolutely corrupted.

It's very disgusting !!!

by **GoldenState** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:10 pm

What to do in a Chinese Hospital?

Wake up, you're having a very scary nightmare!

Ok seriously,

What to do in a Chinese Hospital?

Run for your life!

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