Why don't Expats Drive Cars

Why Don't Shanghai Expats Drive a Car

Poll ended at Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:38 am

Its to Dangerous
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29%
Its to difficult to obtain a driving licence
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Its to expensive to obtain a Shanghai plate
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12%
Its just to much hassle and Taxis are cheap
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Re: Why don't Expats Drive Cars

Postby unlimited » Tue Aug 16, 2016 1:36 pm

Big time dangerous because driving culture here is likely quite different from your home country. They cut you off at any time. I used to get angry when I saw that, then I noticed that my Shanghai driver friends never got upset. I realized its because the culture here allows for more of this sort of behavior. Drives me crazy (pun intended!) :D
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Re: Why don't Expats Drive Cars

Postby henry78 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:43 am

I love driving but I find it way too much hassle to find a parking in SH. Hence I prefer riding my electric scooter or taking the metro to work. I dont find it worth the money and hassle to buy a car here when you can easily rent one cheap thru apps like PP chu che or from avis.
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Re: Why don't Expats Drive Cars

Postby 5CA » Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:23 am

I think we can now add: because tax paying foreigners can no longer buy a Shanghai plate
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Re: Why don't Expats Drive Cars

Postby Asylum-seeker » Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:48 am

It's because they are not brave enough :lol: I'm more afraid of driving back home than here cos they drive on the other side of the road, I've been driving here too long and gotten used to the American way.
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Re: Why don't Expats Drive Cars

Postby blackhatdude » Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:33 am

Lol the poll spells "too" wrong four different times
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Re: Why don't Expats Drive Cars

Postby Asylum-seeker » Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:11 am

I drive because I hate sitting next to a smelly nong.
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Re: Why don't Expats Drive Cars

Postby Mel69 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:26 pm

Asylum-seeker wrote:I drive because I hate sitting next to a smelly nong.

mm what do you do at home then ???
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Re: Why don't Expats Drive Cars

Postby Asylum-seeker » Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:56 pm

You didn't know I married a Sh princess? Her dresser is full of branded perfume. She won't even leave the house unless she's got some kind of make-up on.
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Re: Why don't Expats Drive Cars

Postby blackhatdude » Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:22 pm

Asylum-seeker wrote:You didn't know I married a Sh princess? Her dresser is full of branded perfume. She won't even leave the house unless she's got some kind of make-up on.


Perfume? Is that the stuff foreigners use to mask their BO?
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Re: Why don't Expats Drive Cars

Postby Asylum-seeker » Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:52 pm

Yep, I also have a bunch unopened for men that I bought at the airport that's been sitting in the drawer for a few years, Versace, CK, Burberry, Prada, if anyone wants it I will give them to you for free, don't want to waste it. Everyone loves the smell of my cheap Axe deodorant spray :mrgreen:
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Re: Why don't Expats Drive Cars

Postby Mel69 » Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:26 am

Asylum-seeker wrote:Yep, I also have a bunch unopened for men that I bought at the airport that's been sitting in the drawer for a few years, Versace, CK, Burberry, Prada, if anyone wants it I will give them to you for free, don't want to waste it. Everyone loves the smell of my cheap Axe deodorant spray :mrgreen:



May be train the in laws or use them as air freshener
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Re: Why don't Expats Drive Cars

Postby Asylum-seeker » Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:08 pm

Using them as air fresheners is a good idea those guys can't stop farting walking around the house.
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Re: Why don't Expats Drive Cars

Postby Mister_happy » Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:55 pm

I still have a bottle of "High Karate" after shave aprox 1980 from my 13th birthday if anybody wants it, its unopened!
I'm not saying I should kill ALL the stupid people, I'm just removing the warning labels and let the problem sort itself out!
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Re: Why don't Expats Drive Cars

Postby Asylum-seeker » Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:47 pm

Mine is 5 years old and still have no intention of opening them, might spray it in my car.
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Re: Why don't Expats Drive Cars

Postby Mel69 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:57 pm

Mister_happy wrote:I still have a bottle of "High Karate" after shave aprox 1980 from my 13th birthday if anybody wants it, its unopened!


The sad part is that you have probably moved it 10 times since then I got rid of mine around 20 years ago
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Re: Why don't Expats Drive Cars

Postby expat_newbie » Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:35 am

My husband and I had this discussion just before our move here, and I it just seems like it is more of a hassle than it is worth. Especially since our stay here will only be three years.
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Re: Why don't Expats Drive Cars

Postby Adrienne » Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:14 pm

Most of my expat clients use the time in the back of the car/van to make calls, do work or catch up on sleep. I reckon it's stressful enough INSIDE your work environment let alone tackling the chaos on the roads to and from work. Anyone who wants a weekend trip away just pays the driver overtime. And given many expats have to entertain for business in the evenings, having a driver to take you to/from functions just makes so much more sense.

Having said that, I have friends who drive and admire their abilities. I'm not sure I could be bothered tackling traffic. I'm not good with rush hour at the best of times which is why I used to LOVE riding motor bikes. Sadly can't do that in Shanghai. :?

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Re: Why don't Expats Drive Cars

Postby Adrienne » Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:18 pm

I believe MNCs have a policy for insurance purposes that their expats are not allowed to drive in China. So, even if they wished to do so they are limited.

To be honest, the biggest concern is accidents and one never knows who they are going to run into. If it were an officials car or someone with GUANGXI it could be a long and complex process.

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Re: Why don't Expats Drive Cars

Postby MoonOverMiami » Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:12 am

Traffic laws are constantly changing and enforcement is getting tighter inside the city. Outside the city is still anything goes.

Just got a ticket for crossing the solid line. It was at the XuJiaHui Road and NS Elevated Rd intersection. Was turning north onto the service road under the elevated road. My lane had a dotted line while the lane to my left had a solid line. Noticed my lane was going to go up to the elevated road, and saw that my dotted line coming to an end so I made the switch to the left lane before the dotted line ended...but when I finished crossing it was already the solid line. In short, I switched before the dotted line ended and finished switching over on the solid line.

Must be a rookie cop with big aspirations...he pulled me over and told me what I did wrong. I said I knew what I did, but thought it was legal to cross this way. He said no, it changed where we have to switch completely over before the dotted line ended. I asked if I had switched before the dotted line ended its a sharp turn and could be dangerous. He said, yes, but its legal. I then asked what if a car was coming up on my left, wouldn't that cause an accident? He said what I could do in this case is come to a complete stop in the intersection, wait for the car in the left lane to pass, and switch over...all before the dotted line ended. If all this is true, then the traffic police deserves a collective slap across the back of the head.

Funny thing was while I was waiting for the cop to talk to me (he was busy ticketing another car), another cop came up and asked what was I doing...I could go leave. I stupidly told him I was pulled over by his colleague. I should have just drove off. At least this cop went to ask him why, and came back with his head shaking saying I need to talk to super cop there.
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Re: Why don't Expats Drive Cars

Postby Mel69 » Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:39 pm

Laws Have not really changed it was always illegal to cross a solid line as well as it is illegal to cross a double yellow line even to turn left in to a driveway .
They are enforcing them with vengeance now in the city and the elevated roads with the cameras .
I do not think is that bad as it is bringing some sanity , not much but some .
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Re: Why don't Expats Drive Cars

Postby MoonOverMiami » Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:53 am

Mel69 wrote:Laws Have not really changed it was always illegal to cross a solid line as well as it is illegal to cross a double yellow line even to turn left in to a driveway .
They are enforcing them with vengeance now in the city and the elevated roads with the cameras .
I do not think is that bad as it is bringing some sanity , not much but some .


Didn't it use to be legal to start changing lanes with the dotted lines and can continue to finish switching lanes even if the lines switched to solid?

Have to agree that bringing some sanity is a good thing.
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Re: Why don't Expats Drive Cars

Postby Adrienne » Fri Jul 21, 2017 2:06 pm

On my recent trip to Shanghai, I definitely noticed more politeness on the roads and the subways too. Just small things but quite surprising and more comforting. Didn't need to put on a battle suit just to cross the road or sharpen my elbows on the subways. I had heard from a friend who is an expat driver that there's alot more enforcement of rules and fines. I am guessing the anti corruption mantra of the Gov't has trickled down to the Police Force. Still, I did see a fabulous blue (fight) between a driver who was clearly in the wrong and 6 cops. 4 rocked up later to support the 2 who were getting an ear bashing from this guy. I think after 15 minutes he finally ran out of steam and let the cops do the talking. Great entertainment and crowd pleaser. :lol: :lol:

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Re: Why don't Expats Drive Cars

Postby Stllluna » Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:03 pm

Well, if anything happen, it's hard to communicate with the traffic police in Shanghai. And the road here is difficult to memorize. Many other local drivers will push you. The number of cars are roaring.
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